Idea magicka equivalent of hundings rage for spell casters

Mettaricana · October 2015

Change all stams to magicka and all crits to spell crit and all wep dmg to spell dmg simple thing to add I'd say

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · October 2015

yeah, but before they do that they need to make a couple of extra stam sets including one like the seducer set, but instead of reduce cost for Magicka, its reduce cost for stamina abilities. Stam sets are way limited (craft wise) in comparison to Magika, still waiting on this....

codybrewer78b14_ESO · October 2015

Have you looked Kagrenac's Hope since they changed it?

Mettaricana · October 2015

Not yet what all have they changed

Mettaricana · October 2015

Just looked it up its not really remotely close to a magicka hundings rage on any similarities

Flaminir · October 2015

Kagrenacs Hope..... This is now the magicka version of Hundings basically. In that it has a big spell damage 5 piece bonus.

Other buffs include max magicka, magicka regen, max health, and the 5 piece is about 234 spell damage at V16 (Roughly), as well as 25% faster rez times and restore close to 2k magicka on each rez

Mettaricana · October 2015

Just looked it up again seems all the sites still have its old crap effect

kuscoe · October 2015

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

yeah, but before they do that they need to make a couple of extra stam sets including one like the seducer set, but instead of reduce cost for Magicka, its reduce cost for stamina abilities. Stam sets are way limited (craft wise) in comparison to Magika, still waiting on this....

You are kidding right? in terms of crafted gear stamina builds have more options currently the meta stam build is 90% crafted gear subracting jewlery obviously but for magicka? I mean you can use Kag's Hope but it is completly lackluster in my opinion and the only other magicka set magicka users typically go for in end game is 2 piece torug's

tplink3r1 · October 2015

Kagrenacs hope gives you 224 spell damage, Hundings rage gives you 300+.

Anhedonie · October 2015

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Kagrenacs hope gives you 224 spell damage, Hundings rage gives you 300+.

You can achieve 6k weapon damage, but maximum spell damage possible is around 4200. Bear that i mind.

Kag hope is not magicka hunding, but more of healer version of hunding. Magicka dds still have nothing equial in terms of crafting. Not sure if you guys really need it. I mean come on! ZOS should just make owerwhelming surge more available. And with good traits ofc.

You hear me ZOS? NOBODY wants that sturdy-turdy trait!

hedna123b14_ESO · October 2015

Anhedonie wrote: »

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Kagrenacs hope gives you 224 spell damage, Hundings rage gives you 300+.

You can achieve 6k weapon damage, but maximum spell damage possible is around 4200. Bear that i mind.

Kag hope is not magicka hunding, but more of healer version of hunding. Magicka dds still have nothing equial in terms of crafting. Not sure if you guys really need it. I mean come on! ZOS should just make owerwhelming surge more available. And with good traits ofc.

You hear me ZOS? NOBODY wants that sturdy-turdy trait!

Agree with your general message but just wanted to clear something up, 4.20 is definitely not the max achievable in game. 5 piece scathing 2 piece Kena with 3 piece willpower and any v16 greatsword will yield on a sorc with 6 sorc abilities on with a Potion up and a templar using dawns wrath will give almost 4.7k spell damage which is the absolute maximum obtainable in the game..

Anhedonie · October 2015

hedna123b14_ESO wrote: »

Anhedonie wrote: »

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Kagrenacs hope gives you 224 spell damage, Hundings rage gives you 300+.

You can achieve 6k weapon damage, but maximum spell damage possible is around 4200. Bear that i mind.

Kag hope is not magicka hunding, but more of healer version of hunding. Magicka dds still have nothing equial in terms of crafting. Not sure if you guys really need it. I mean come on! ZOS should just make owerwhelming surge more available. And with good traits ofc.

You hear me ZOS? NOBODY wants that sturdy-turdy trait!

Agree with your general message but just wanted to clear something up, 4.20 is definitely not the max achievable in game. 5 piece scathing 2 piece Kena with 3 piece willpower and any v16 greatsword will yield on a sorc with 6 sorc abilities on with a Potion up and a templar using dawns wrath will give almost 4.7k spell damage which is the absolute maximum obtainable in the game..

That's why I used "around". Couldn't recall exact numbers, sorry.

kendellking_chaosb14_ESO · October 2015

tplink3r1 wrote: »

Kagrenacs hope gives you 224 spell damage, Hundings rage gives you 300+.

Classic false equivalency you just get the weapon damage with five Hundings Rage. Hope gives you damage, magic back and reduced rez time.

kuscoe wrote: »

You are kidding right? in terms of crafted gear stamina builds have more options currently the meta stam build is 90% crafted gear subracting jewlery obviously but for magicka? I mean you can use Kag's Hope but it is completly lackluster in my opinion and the only other magicka set magicka users typically go for in end game is 2 piece torug's

Are you kidding Hundings Rage is the only stamina set with a good five piece.
•Hundings Rage high crit (pointless on shields) great other wise, damage on 5/5
•Night's Silence five piece is not worth the 2-4 at all. Bonuses are all over the place and just hurts most any build.
•Ashen Grip three pieces maybe four never take the fire piece. Unless you're a Melee stamina Dragon Knight.
•Night Mother's Gaze great with paired with five Hundings Rage.

Now look at magic

•Armor of the Seducer great regeneration and cost reduction.
•Magnus' Gift is Seducer with more damage
•Willow's Path two piece adds regen to any build find a two piece stamina regen.
•Eyes of Mara great healers set 12% percent cost reduction to a whole skill line.
•Specters' Eye like Night's Silence 2-4 is all over and not worth the five.
•Torug's Pact two piece spell damage that can go with any set what's a good two weapons damage buff that you can craft non.

Magic has more five pieces worth getting with even more good two pieces. The simple fact that most stamina build run the same five piece means that other sets must not be good.

Mettaricana · October 2015

Most sets need more variations like some offer 4% wep crit make some offer 8% atm other than 5pc every set just has a random combo of the same crap