Source of any recent "confirmations"?

Well, nevermind... They also said they would remove Veteran Ranks, add character re-customization to the crowns store etc. like almost a year ago.

So the list about what they said they would do is quite some lengthy thing, the list about things they actually completed and released isn't nearly half of that...

I hope it's just a false rumour.

The result of housing is pretty clear:

• Or the supply of houses is very limited and prices will be extreme
• Or they would take the Ultima Online approach, were you could build a house on any open spot. In no time the world was full of houses and the game became ugly. Oh and these houses were pretty expensive too.

It's a nay for me. Not that it matters.

PinoZino wrote: »

I hope it's just a false rumour.

The result of housing is pretty clear:

• Or the supply of houses is very limited and prices will be extreme
• Or they would take the Ultima Online approach, were you could build a house on any open spot. In no time the world was full of houses and the game became ugly. Oh and these houses were pretty expensive too.

It's a nay for me. Not that it matters.

I should be like in DC Universe Online where you have several spots to buy and the House is a instan ce

I'd be down for this...

Lets add houses with unlimited bank spaces to store stuff...

I want to be able to decorate it as well..

same with guild halls

Nice approach. I assume you couldn't decorate your own house in that game?

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A lot of decoration in DCUO that was funny!

PinoZino wrote: »

I hope it's just a false rumour.

The result of housing is pretty clear:

• Or the supply of houses is very limited and prices will be extreme
• Or they would take the Ultima Online approach, were you could build a house on any open spot. In no time the world was full of houses and the game became ugly. Oh and these houses were pretty expensive too.

It's a nay for me. Not that it matters.

Other MMORPG threated housing in a very simple way: the houses you can buy are already set in specific places, and anyone who buyed it has a personal instance into it. Or you just access a single common "entrance" that throw you into the personal instance of your house.

These are probably the best ways to allow everyone to have a house AND avoid the risk of Tamriel's uncontrolled urbanization.

There are plenty of examples of how housing may work (Everquest 2, FFXIV, just to name some), but most of them don't use megaservers.

So I think an approach like Wildstar has it (they use megaservers now, too) would be ok. Every house has its own instance (or instanced neighboorhood) and so you don't really have to struggle with physical limitations of spots etc. and still can show off your house's surroundings (like garden, decorations and so on) and invite friends to meet up at a place.

One example from Wildstar:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DkoEZwsnoeE

The surrounding part of the house starts at about 3:00.
Every tree, plant, table and whatnot you see there is individually placed there by the owener.

Disclaimer: Wildstar has some extremely different story/world settings. This is not how I imagine it would look like in ESO, I just want to show off how the technical solution may work out.

I loved Hearthfire! Gathering the mats and the options for decorating were pretty fun. I liked how you could see the progress of building and adding furniture, trophies and being able to display various swords, sheilds and armors. I hope ZOS uses some of the Hearthfire DLC concept for housing.

Gidorick wrote: »

I pretty much said my peace about housing here:

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/145287/another-housing-suggestion-a-3-phase-release-plan/p1

Oh man this is awesome! With Skills and all of it. Very well thoughts. I would like to inv everyone to go and check his link.

I'd be happy with just the little house called "Home" in the Hollow City. Just give me some containers to store my crap in, a bed to rest in (would love a rested bonus) and a rocking chair in front of a fireplace and I'm good.

Instead I'm sure we'll wait another two years for an overblown buggy mess that isn't even usable without massive crown store purchases.

I really like the idea of Guild Halls over individual housing. It'd be easy to implement, IMHO, because it could work like the guild trader system, but with a longer lease period. Guilds could bid on houses as they do with guild traders; the winning guild would have a lease on that guild hall for, say, a month. You'd probably need to include something to add value to make it an investment, like the guild traders are (i.e. you're not just paying money for space, you're spending money to make money). I see several ways that could happen.

Guild halls could have a central bank that's much larger than any individual bank. This would allow guilds to store more and thus have more to sell.

Guild halls could come with a built-in guild trader, which obviously provides a way to make money.

Guild halls could allow for the harvesting of materials. Maybe there's a garden with provisioning ingredients. Maybe there's a field of plants with clothing raw materials. Maybe there's a rocky area with blacksmithing raw ores. Could also be a spot with rune stones.

The final and most interesting thing would be to somehow incorporate the idea of the guild adding value to the home. For example: each guild hall starts with nothing other than the basics. The first guild that leases the guild hall would have the ability to invest in improvements. Maybe you have to collect a large number of a certain provisioning ingredient in order to start growing it in your garden - for example, you have to put in 10 apples, and when you do, an apple tree appears which generates one apple per day. Put in 100 more and it generates 10 apples per day. Put in 1,000 more and it generates 100 apples per day. And so on - each additional investment of that specific ingredient results in the guild hall's increased ability to produce that ingredient on an ongoing basis. The same could be done for all other types. Invest 1,000 ironthread, your fields now have an ironthread plant that produces 100 ironthread per day. Invest 10,000 voidsteel, your mine now produces 1,000 voidsteel per day.

When it comes to the end of the month's lease, guilds bidding on that guild hall would be able to see its production capacity and factor that in to their bids. The more improvements the current guild has made, the more people will bid to lease it. If it's been improved to the point it can churn out lots of voidcloth, and you have lots of light armor users in your guild, that property is going to be more valuable to you than one that doesn't have that ability. The current guild then has two options. Either they make the highest bid to continue leasing that guild hall (in which case they can continue to improve its production capacity as well as use the existing production capacity to create items to sell, trade, etc) or if someone else makes a higher bid, the guild would get a percentage of that bid. That percentage could be based on the amount of time you've leased that particular guild hall. For example, if you're leaving after one month, you get 10% of the max bid. If you're leaving after two months, you get 20% of the max bid. And so on - like with a house, the more time you've spent there, the more equity you have and therefore the more you make when it sells.

That would really make it fun for guilds. You'd have to work together to collect a large amount of a certain thing in order to keep improving the guild hall, so guilds would have events where everyone goes out and gets that, or contests for the most collected. And there would be limits on improvements to force you to decide which things you want, so you could customize the hall to your liking. For example, maybe you can only have <x> number of total things that can produce materials, so you have to decide how you want that to be used. All of them for void cloth plants? Half for void cloth plants, half for frost mirriam plants? Or maybe equal thirds between void cloth plants, frost mirriam plants, and voidstone deposits? And obviously there would also be cosmetic things you could add to make it look cool. You could invest lots of high quality wood to make the front door look super cool, invest lots of clothing material to make the sheets, tapestries, etc look cool, lots of high quality ores to make the metalwork on the door look awesome, etc. Guilds bidding on the guild hall would then have to factor that in to their bid. If you really like the way it looks, you would bid more because less cosmetic improvements are needed. If not, you might bid less because you know you're going to have to sink money/resources into redoing it to make it look like you want.

Obviously lots of work would be needed to make sure everything's balanced - you don't want this to completely throw off the supply and demand of materials and such - but I think it would add a really fun aspect to the game.

If I were to do it I would have a "housing department building" in the capital and purchase private land, this would activate a portal in the room that leads to your own worldspace that other players can teleport to you when you are in it in order to get there (you can select to lock it so no one can do that). then you can build your house hearthfires style and even modify the landscape through an altar. Guildmasters can select "purchase guild hall" to purchase from guild bank funds a much larger worldspace that only the GM or someone with editing permission can edit. in another room 5 portals can exist each leading to one guilds guildhall each guild you are in.

what do you think?

PinoZino wrote: »

I hope it's just a false rumour.

The result of housing is pretty clear:

• Or the supply of houses is very limited and prices will be extreme
• Or they would take the Ultima Online approach, were you could build a house on any open spot. In no time the world was full of houses and the game became ugly. Oh and these houses were pretty expensive too.

It's a nay for me. Not that it matters.

Because there couldn't possibly be instanced housing?

Serious question fellas. What exactly are you gonna do with these houses? What would you do with guild houses? I think a lot of times people think there will be people hanging out there all the time but mostly people are playing the game not sitting in a house arent they? We have banks and crafting center's so I don't see a use. BTW, I'm not trying to offend the homemakers of ESO; I am legit curious.

Dober wrote: »

robkrush wrote: »

Serious question fellas. What exactly are you gonna do with these houses? What would you do with guild houses? I think a lot of times people think there will be people hanging out there all the time but mostly people are playing the game not sitting in a house arent they? We have banks and crafting center's so I don't see a use. BTW, I'm not trying to offend the homemakers of ESO; I am legit curious.

Well we could have Guild Meetings, do we don't have to do it somewhere out in the Dessert and absolutely troll free
We could hold our weekly Auctions on there (every Friday on PS4 NA DC) if you can give access to other Players
We could use it for Roll Play or Partys (yes we have Party's after the Auction.
You can always store some cheese in there

And Soooo much more

I can see all that. Plus, thinking about it, it's be fun to store awards/trophies in there, maybe have some user interface stuff like a guild management tool, etc. The only thing that I don't like about the idea is that cool features will obviously be hidden behind a pay wall.

What would be cool if of they put the new jewelry crafting table in the house only.