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Vampires - It's not enough

  • sun.fire85b14_ESO
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    Give us a vampire form to change into.
  • Stravokov
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    Halloween is right around the corner. give me Bat travel animation to replace my Mount! and.... FANGS!
  • VoiDGhOs7
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    Just gimme this as a best zergbuster NA,EU and Singapore!!!

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  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    @Firerock2

    I still believe Vampire need's a little something. Something to off set the insane extra damage you receive from fighter's guild ability's.

    -Longer Stage 1 time. I personally hate only getting 30min's to keep stage 1. This one is just a quality of life change for vampire's who actually feed.

    Also maybe give more insensitive to feed. Your vampire abilities should cost less when stage 1, this way you need to feed to have that low cost mist/bat swarm.

    -Have Drain essence scale off whatever stat is higher for the damage, keep the resource magicka when used. Just so stamina user's can do a little bit of damage with it. The heal is great.

    -I know you already disagree'd with this one but let Drain essence be instant cast with no channel duration. This way Vampire's can be true life leechers. You may say op but this would be fine since Fighter's guild abilities can destroy you.

    -Mist form, it's great but need's to only be effected by AoE's like i said befor. It seem's you still melt even with 75% damage reduction. Your just asking to be hit for 4 second's, even if it's only 25% worth. Not really gonna help much anymore.

    -More abilities perhaps? Why only 2, was Zos not creative enough to think of any? I personally think a Vampire gap closer would fit well.

    "Vicious Fang"
    -charge your enemy with very high speed and bite them, target suffer's from Minor Mangle reducing maximum hp by (x)% for 5 second's.

    Morph 1 - Bloody Fang
    -charge your enemy and bite them, target suffer's from Minor Mangle reducing maximum hp by (x)% for 5 second's.

    -new effect : target bleed's for (X) damage over 5 second's

    Morph 2 - Shadow Fang
    -charge your enemy and bite them, target suffer's from Minor Mangle reducing maximum hp by (x)% for 5 second's.

    -new effect : Does increased damage from stealth
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  • MornaBaine
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    How vampires don't have a fear is beyond me. That's all I want.

    Technically wouldn't they have a charm effect (glamour), not a fear?

    I would prefer a charm/glamour, especially if they could then feed on the charmed victim. But I like having a fear as well. Perhaps a charm/glamour in Stages 1 and 2 and a fear in stages 3 and 4 would make sense but I doubt they would bother with such "complicated" mechanics for vamps.
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  • Van_0S
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    VoiDGhOs7 wrote: »
    Just gimme this as a best zergbuster NA,EU and Singapore!!!

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    Play castlevania lords of shadows 2, to get this ability.
    In skyrim, it's way better!!.(you can make undead followers)
  • MornaBaine
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    Stravokov wrote: »
    Halloween is right around the corner. give me Bat travel animation to replace my Mount! and.... FANGS!

    Vampires SOOOO need their fangs!
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  • RedTalon
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    I want my silver bolts to one shot all the vampires and make them explode in blood and gore for the upcoming holiday, vampire massacre with a twist!

    Anyone remember that two day bug in pvp was fun and half of the servers depopulated cause most rolled vampire
    Edited by RedTalon on October 1, 2015 8:32PM
  • xnhiddentruthx
    I like the charm ability but as a mind control maybe. Have enemies you use it on also fight for you. Of course not high level or bosses. Using it on towns people could help with getting them to a remote location to feed safely as well.
  • FilteredRiddle
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    To be fair: werewolf requires an ultimate to turn, requires active fighting and a passive to sustain, and now the buffs are only viable while in werewolf form. In contrast, vampires are always vampires with feeding being the sole requirement in determining at which vampire level you sit. So in essence, you either get a ton of actives and buffs which are only usable during small specific time periods or minimal actives and buffs which are always available.

    I was a werewolf, but after the last patch, I dropped it entirely.
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  • Enraged_Tiki_Torch
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    Isn't Invigorating Drain OverPowered as **** right now?
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  • Malnutrition
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    Isn't Invigorating Drain OverPowered as **** right now?

    I don't feel it is — you can't do diddly-squat else while channeling it.

    I know of no other vampire who uses it nor have I seen it used by anyone in-game since the patch went live. Actually, I've never seen it used before that either. No vamps in my guild aside from me have ever used either of the drains. Perhaps now with the change to a Vampire ability slotted requirement to gain the benefits from the regen passive, but from what I've heard people are using the ultimate for that, with some using mist as well.
  • xnhiddentruthx
    I don't feel it is — you can't do diddly-squat else while channeling it.

    I know of no other vampire who uses it nor have I seen it used by anyone in-game since the patch went live. Actually, I've never seen it used before that either. No vamps in my guild aside from me have ever used either of the drains. Perhaps now with the change to a Vampire ability slotted requirement to gain the benefits from the regen passive, but from what I've heard people are using the ultimate for that, with some using mist as well.

    I only use devouring swarm now at Veteran 2 and Vampire 10. It works really short, but works really well. I have health regen and fire resistance Jewelry and plus champion points in fire resistance and health regen and I still have trouble against fire and healing. I'm not sure what I'm doing wrong with my sorcerer build. After the recent maintenance this week, it seems fire damage and health regen is worse... And I'm not just talking about PvP, but PvE as well.
  • Jura23
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    Isn't Invigorating Drain OverPowered as **** right now?

    I don't feel it is — you can't do diddly-squat else while channeling it.

    I know of no other vampire who uses it nor have I seen it used by anyone in-game since the patch went live. Actually, I've never seen it used before that either. No vamps in my guild aside from me have ever used either of the drains. Perhaps now with the change to a Vampire ability slotted requirement to gain the benefits from the regen passive, but from what I've heard people are using the ultimate for that, with some using mist as well.

    I am stamina build, but I do use Invigorating Drain on my back bar and I enjoy that skill. If the fight lets say 1v1 gets more tense, it's an annoying ability for your enemy to pop once in a while. Especially if he's stamina build and has to break free every time it can help you to drain his resources. At least thats my experience, but I don't claim to be a pro. Just my two cents.
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  • MADshadowmans_Ghost
    So, can we please get the skill line re-worked? Especially in this patch vampires feel very meh.

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  • MornaBaine
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    So, can we please get the skill line re-worked? Especially in this patch vampires feel very meh.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno ? @Wrobel ?

    They really seem to be "done" with vampires and werewolves despite the very lackluster shape they are currently in. :(
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  • Lenikus
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    WW and vamps are okay.
    Let's go back to the true and tested "Buff DKs" "Nerf NBs" "Buff Templar" "Nerf Templar" and the usual"Nerf content" & "Game is too easy" threads now.
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  • MADshadowmans_Ghost
    MornaBaine wrote: »
    So, can we please get the skill line re-worked? Especially in this patch vampires feel very meh.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno ? @Wrobel ?

    They really seem to be "done" with vampires and werewolves despite the very lackluster shape they are currently in. :(

    Well, i guess they never cared about vampires. i hope next patch brings some changes, cause right now the only things vamps can do are... well... nothing, besides acting as a damage sponge for dawnbreakers. they sooaaaak it aaaaall up.

    btw. hi, @MornaBaine . I'm back :)
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  • melodeath
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    personally i think vamps are in a decent spot.

    i do feel tho that they should update certain resistances like the dark elf one as it basicly does nothing anymore ontop of the fact that the biggest issue with beeing a vamp is the camo/silver shard oneshots.

    their are counters for those oneshots but on my nb it only takes 1 buff (camo) and 1 heavy attack to just 1shot alot of the vamps even when they have radiant magelight on.. it was fun for a while but after a certain time it becomes rather mindboggling when you see full tank builds wandering around and than just explode from 1heavy attack with camo up.

  • MADshadowmans_Ghost
    melodeath wrote: »
    personally i think vamps are in a decent spot.

    i do feel tho that they should update certain resistances like the dark elf one as it basicly does nothing anymore ontop of the fact that the biggest issue with beeing a vamp is the camo/silver shard oneshots.

    their are counters for those oneshots but on my nb it only takes 1 buff (camo) and 1 heavy attack to just 1shot alot of the vamps even when they have radiant magelight on.. it was fun for a while but after a certain time it becomes rather mindboggling when you see full tank builds wandering around and than just explode from 1heavy attack with camo up.

    You know, what bothers me so much about vampires is that we only have 3 skills to use and they got nerfed and changed so many times that i see no reason using them anymore. And to play a vampire only because of the passives, is kinda sad. the skill line is badly designed and not very useful in pvp.

    I barely see anyone using mist form anymore, cause let's face it, it's slow, you can be targeted anyway, you can be rooted, you have no magicka regen while using it. so... it's more of a burden now.

    Drain essence was never really useful in pvp, but now they made some changes that make this skill potentially useful, but at the same time they changed completey how it works and ruined it. it's absolutely useless now.

    Bat swarm is still kinda good, but depending on the class you play, you might have better options.

    I just wanna feel like a vampire, but at the moment that's not possible.
    MADshadowman - the one and only
  • Desommettor
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    /signed Give Vamps some love.
  • Stravokov
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    /signed Give Vamps some love.

    +1
  • DurzoBlint13
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    how about they give a little love to Werewolves before they even think about a Vamp-revamp? Are all of you magica based characters THAT dependant on vampirism? What about the nerfs to werewolves? Being a WW is almost pointless anymore but the Vamps are the ones that complain all the time. The bottom line is that being bitten is a bonus only. It is not required for anything. Take the good with the bad and deal with it. If there were only good features with no consequences then everyone would be a Vamp and there would be no reason to NOT be one. I would just like to see them even the benefits and drawbacks out between Vampires and Werewolves
  • MADshadowmans_Ghost
    how about they give a little love to Werewolves before they even think about a Vamp-revamp? Are all of you magica based characters THAT dependant on vampirism? What about the nerfs to werewolves? Being a WW is almost pointless anymore but the Vamps are the ones that complain all the time. The bottom line is that being bitten is a bonus only. It is not required for anything. Take the good with the bad and deal with it. If there were only good features with no consequences then everyone would be a Vamp and there would be no reason to NOT be one. I would just like to see them even the benefits and drawbacks out between Vampires and Werewolves

    Are you coming from last year? WW are amazing. they are fast and strong. they are better than ever before.

    But this is not about WW, it's about Vampires, so please stay at the topic or leave.
    MADshadowman - the one and only
  • GreySix
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    Sarru wrote: »
    This game is already Twilight Online. I think both vamp and WW should be nerfed.

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  • Wollust
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    how about they give a little love to Werewolves before they even think about a Vamp-revamp? Are all of you magica based characters THAT dependant on vampirism? What about the nerfs to werewolves? Being a WW is almost pointless anymore but the Vamps are the ones that complain all the time. The bottom line is that being bitten is a bonus only. It is not required for anything. Take the good with the bad and deal with it. If there were only good features with no consequences then everyone would be a Vamp and there would be no reason to NOT be one. I would just like to see them even the benefits and drawbacks out between Vampires and Werewolves

    WW is strong af nowadays, having the hardest hitting single target ability in the game (with no cast time). It's more popular than ever. I see so many doggys running around lately humping everything they can see. Playing WW in PvP is so much fun, so no idea what your problem is tbh. The only bad thing one could argue is that 300 Ultimate is too much. 200 would be okay.

    However, I still think vampires should get the increased regen even with no abilities slotted, like it used to be. Would make it even considering the drawbacks (fire damage and camo hunter)
    Edited by Wollust on December 28, 2015 4:53PM
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  • LBxFinalDeath
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    Dawnbreaker on a Vampire....Vampire takes idk...7K damage and none else cuz the DOT is only directly infront of you...where you slammed the sword down.

    Bat swarm from a Vampire on everything else.....25K guaranteed if you spam gap closers which every class has the ability to do...ontop of the extra damage you can do from...oh...idk steel tornado while essentially nothing can attack you?

    Or who knows....talons someone constantly while slapping them with a lava whip as the bats tear them to shreds.

    If anything...lower the DOT of dawnbreaker and increase the initial hit damage.

    I mean honestly the most damaging part of Dawnbreaker is the dot which is easily dodged.

    On the other hand devouring swarm or clouding swarm is capable of what feels like instakilling 5 man groups.
    Edited by LBxFinalDeath on December 28, 2015 6:33PM
  • MADshadowmans_Ghost
    Dawnbreaker on a Vampire....Vampire takes idk...7K damage and none else cuz the DOT is only directly infront of you...where you slammed the sword down.

    Bat swarm from a Vampire on everything else.....25K guaranteed if you spam gap closers which every class has the ability to do...ontop of the extra damage you can do from...oh...idk steel tornado while essentially nothing can attack you?

    Or who knows....talons someone constantly while slapping them with a lava whip as the bats tear them to shreds.

    If anything...lower the DOT of dawnbreaker and increase the initial hit damage.

    I mean honestly the most damaging part of Dawnbreaker is the dot which is easily dodged.

    On the other hand devouring swarm or clouding swarm is capable of what feels like instakilling 5 man groups.

    uhhm.... no.
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  • Cathexis
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    The health regen reduction is pretty heavy, I'd like to see it cut in half or replaced since health regen builds are already pretty gimped without losing vamp as an option.
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    Cathexis wrote: »
    The health regen reduction is pretty heavy, I'd like to see it cut in half or replaced since health regen builds are already pretty gimped without losing vamp as an option.

    Here's an idea... don't progress beyond stage 1 vampirism... then you don't have health regen problems. It is always amazing how vamps complain about health regen, but then allow their character to advance to stage four. I keep my vamp at stage 1, occasionally stage 2 but no further and I never have health regen related problems.
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