Fix hardened ward - if you won't address shield stacking

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Baphomet
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This is ability is just too good, costs too little and lasts too long = i.e god mode.

This was one of the worste culprits to the balance in 1.6 and still is. It's embarrasing that this ability has not been properly balanced yet. It's not like we're talking bad coding, mechanical issues or anything here - just needs the numbers adjusted.
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  • Gerardopg
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    Or use shield braker and counter it, I don't know why pvpers wants to kills very single skill in the game for the pvers
  • ItsRejectz
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    Edited by ItsRejectz on September 28, 2015 7:00PM
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  • Baphomet
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    I do appreciate the sorcerer's input there. Would be nice to see if they could actually play without an I-win-button.
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  • Makkir
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    Baphomet wrote: »
    I do appreciate the sorcerer's input there. Would be nice to see if they could actually play without an I-win-button.

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  • Lucky28
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    Xeven wrote: »
    L2P

    Pretty much this. Hardened ward is good but far from op.
    Baphomet wrote: »
    I do appreciate the sorcerer's input there. Would be nice to see if they could actually play without an I-win-button.

    So it seems you have pretty much zero idea of what you're talking about, good to know.
    Edited by Lucky28 on September 28, 2015 10:04PM
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  • Kova
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    Makkir wrote: »

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    You cheeky sorc. You meteored my face last night. Good thing I had my hardened ward. XD


    Oh OP, L2P.
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  • Wollust
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    No seriously though, you must be joking? Why do you people want to nerf everything till it's not useful anymore? You're just a basic QQer who doesn't let classes have different abilities and just wants everyone and everything to hit like a wet noodle so you don't die. Stop it already with the nerfing posts, this is by far not your first and we've heard it, everything op besides what you play. If you want lower damage and lower shields, go to the lowbie campaign. Seems to be a good place nowadays with people dueling for hours.
    If you think a sorc is unkillable because of a silly 8k shield, mate I got some bad news for you: You're a bad player.
    Edited by Wollust on September 28, 2015 10:54PM
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  • Forestd16b14_ESO
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    Not taking sides but hardened ward really isn't broken BUT shield stacking is and that's the real problem here and was in the past not that shields were OP but that players can stack 4 or 5 covering there entire health bar.

    Also P.S. stop it with the shield breaker stuff you sorcs have done nothing but QQ about that since PTS. ZOS said that they are not changing it at all cause stated by players and ZOS it is a 1 purpose set and I don't see players dropping 5,000 TVS on it let alone 50,000 on it's VR16 version plus it only comes in medium armor doesn't help LA or HA users out.
    Edited by Forestd16b14_ESO on September 29, 2015 1:40AM
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  • Makkir
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    Kova wrote: »

    You cheeky sorc. You meteored my face last night. Good thing I had my hardened ward. XD


    Oh OP, L2P.

    Were you in the 3-4 man group farming circle late last night? I was messing around with a new build, but had fun dropping meteor on that group all night. Even though I died every time.
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    Lol all the forumsorcs here :trollface:
    Edited by Master_Kas on September 29, 2015 4:42AM
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  • BackFreckle
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    <--- not a sorc

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    Gerardopg wrote: »
    Or use shield braker and counter it, I don't know why pvpers wants to kills very single skill in the game for the pvers

    If only peolpe felt the same way about all the counters to dark cloak...
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    If only peolpe felt the same way about all the counters to dark cloak...

    LOL this again.

    Detect Pots, Radiant Magelight, Caltrops, Revealing Flare, literally ANY AoE skill. Take your pick.
  • xaraan
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    I'd say L2P without hardened ward to all the worriers. It is too strong, it should simply cost much more and not last as long IMO, let it stay strong numbers wise, but make it cost what it's worth. And no, not every player in the game should have to run one set to counter one skill, that means there is a problem with that skill.
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  • FriedEggSandwich
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    It sounds like your having trouble doing damage. You'll be pleased to hear that hardened ward now has 2 counters. One specific counter in the form of a 5 piece bonus, and a more general counter in the form of high damage attacks such as wrecking blow, surprise attack, crystal frags, teleport strike, snipe, dark flare, vampires bane, dawnbreaker and more. You can also chain a heavy attack onto any of those skills for more burst damage. Of course hardened ward can just be re-cast but so can all of those high damage counters. It's your job as the opponent to stop the sorc from casting by using cc regularly. Fossilize is good cos you have to break out of the stun and then dodge-roll out of the root if you want to be able to face your opponent to target them, thus forcing the sorc to use more stamina. Of course if you can't be bothered to try any of that you could just ask zos to nerf it, what have you got to lose right?
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  • DannyLV702
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    Hardened ward blocks probably one attack now and people are still complaining. wow.
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