Why there are suddenly fewer DKs on 30-day campaign leader boards?

chongguang · September 2015

i am playing in NA , so there are only 2 campaigns which are Azura start and trueflame . I also noticed leader boards for several days and find that DKs number reduced sharply on the leader board. Eg no DKs in top 10 for both leader boards. What happened to DKs in these 2 campaigns ?
Discuss please

MightyMalloy · September 2015

All about those 7 day campaigns

Lord_Hev · September 2015

ZOS nerfed them to the ground. All the DKs are too busy rerolling NBs.

PainfulFAFA · September 2015

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/216514/talons-cc-is-blockable-thanks-zos/p1

http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/219520/the-death-of-the-dragonknight/p1

/closethread

PhatGrimReaper · September 2015

There are DKs on the TF leaderboard for AD unless I'm mistaken.

ScarecrowBoat · September 2015

I remember it like it was yesterday... yesterday i saw many bright beams of light shoot down from the heavens all over cyrodiil. Moments later i witnessed players ascending upwards into the clouds and beyond all the while flapping their magnificent wings. It was truly a sight to see. Confirmed: DKs are the chosen ones

PhatGrimReaper · September 2015

ScarecrowBoat wrote: »

I remember it like it was yesterday... yesterday i saw many bright beams of light shoot down from the heavens all over cyrodiil. Moments later i witnessed players ascending upwards into the clouds and beyond all the while flapping their magnificent wings. It was truly a sight to see. Confirmed: DKs are the chosen ones

Why can't I give this two Awesomes?

Alomar · September 2015

I'm not up there on my dk cause dk's suck after 12 back to back nerfs. Instead I'm up there on my temp =P

Auricle · September 2015

ScarecrowBoat wrote: »

I remember it like it was yesterday... yesterday i saw many bright beams of light shoot down from the heavens all over cyrodiil. Moments later i witnessed players ascending upwards into the clouds and beyond all the while flapping their magnificent wings. It was truly a sight to see. Confirmed: DKs are the chosen ones

If you've ever read the graphic novel 'Therefore Repent', you know that's not a good thing...

ScarecrowBoat · September 2015

Auricle wrote: »

If you've ever read the graphic novel 'Therefore Repent', you know that's not a good thing...

Im midway through reading "Click Clack Moo: Cows That Type" but once im done ill give that novel a go

Draxys · September 2015

Have a glance at pretty much every update's patch notes and you'll see why.

chongguang · September 2015

PhatGrimReaper wrote: »

There are DKs on the TF leaderboard for AD unless I'm mistaken.

May be its my fault, as my memory does not serve me right. However, one thing i can confirm that DKs' number are much lower than other 3 ones.

Yolokin_Swagonborn · September 2015

Because they needed more room for NBs.

FireCowCommando · September 2015

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GIQn8pab8Vc

You just gotta believe it! Spread your wings and fly away...

andy_s · September 2015

DK is probably the hardest class to farm AP now unless you always run in a group with steel tornado ^^

Docmandu · September 2015

Because they are still busy crying about stam regen during block nerf.. instead of adapting.

There's still some beasty DKs out there.. ie. those that adapted, instead of crying.

Armitas · September 2015

chongguang wrote: »

What happened to DKs in these 2 campaigns ?

ZOS happened...over and over and over and over and over and over and over and over again.

Wollust · September 2015

Because playing a (magicka) DK is not really rewarding. ZOS nerfed the class to the ground, making it stupidly weak by default. And those saying you need to adapt, I tried to and it kinda worked. But why struggle through if you can just play anything else even if you don't like it as much.
Why should I keep playing my favorite class that ZOS wants to destroy and just getting overrun by them zergs? If I can play my NB, hit harder and have the mobility I need to somehow outmanouvre the zerglings. If I can play my sorc, have a proper defensive and proper bursting? If I can play my templar, have charge, healing and execute?
The DK has absolutely nothing to beat any other classes anymore. Nothing makes the DK special anymore. Our wings are broken, our talons are replacable, our ultimates are not really worth using 95% of the time and our chains are a gift to the enemy. We lost our only defensive mechanic with the block nerf, our shield is bad, our selfheal ridiculous and dots are more or less useless.
Now tell me, why should i keep struggling after everything ZOS has done?

Asmael · September 2015

Is it considered adapting when you're rerolling another class?

redspecter23 · September 2015

My DK picked up a resto staff and started to heal. Heals + Fossilize + Leap and not much else of note. If I want to do anything more constructive, I bring my nightblade or templar. That being said, I'm pretty sure both my nightblade and templar would do that better anyway.

Nijjion · September 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Because they are still busy crying about stam regen during block nerf.. instead of adapting.

There's still some beasty DKs out there.. ie. those that adapted, instead of crying.

We are just learning what NBs, sorcs and temps did best and have done for so many months. DKs got that a lot, e.g. with flipy flap wings... people couldn't move away from ranged so they just nerfed it.

This is a game that isn't supposed to be pigeon holed but as ESO is terrible at balancing we are put fourth to do just what is viable.

Docmandu · September 2015

Asmael wrote: »

Is it considered adapting when you're rerolling another class?

It might be, if you can't make the class work for you.. ofcourse the grass is always greener on the other side! As an alt-o-holic, I know this for a fact :-)

Docmandu · September 2015

Wollust wrote: »

Why should I keep playing my favorite class that ZOS wants to destroy and just getting overrun by them zergs? If I can play my NB, hit harder and have the mobility I need to somehow outmanouvre the zerglings. If I can play my sorc, have a proper defensive and proper bursting? If I can play my templar, have charge, healing and execute?

Funny thing is, the templar "charge" is actually a magicka ability, with damage based on your magicka.. there's no stamina morph for it.

For mobility both DK and Templar drew the short stick. Also healing and execute (radiant) are magicka based and only really work for magicka Templars.

Stamina templar has the same problem as most other stam classes, heal using either Vigor or Rally (forcing you to go 2H)

Jules · September 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Because they are still busy crying about stam regen during block nerf.. instead of adapting.

There's still some beasty DKs out there.. ie. those that adapted, instead of crying.

A wild nightblade appears.

Talcyndl · September 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Because they are still busy crying about stam regen during block nerf.. instead of adapting.

There's still some beasty DKs out there.. ie. those that adapted, instead of crying.

Kinda sucks when "adapting" means giving up a tanking build and being 'forced' into stamina based DPS. Which requires completely reworking gear, stats, CP and abilities.

But hey, after several hundred thousand gold, a buttload of stones and relearning my rotations (work in progress), I do almost as much DPS as a NB - albeit without the stealth and mobility that are all but required in IC.

_Chaos · September 2015

deleted. why even bother debating this stuff anymore

thelordoffelines · September 2015

DKs got so over powered from buff after buff after buff every patch that thet got bored and stopped playing dk.

BalgusFlinn · September 2015

Rerolled nb over the weekend.

Trayyacakes · September 2015

thelordoffelines wrote: »

DKs got so over powered from buff after buff after buff every patch that thet got bored and stopped playing dk.

Them fully charged heavy attacks are too strong.

Wollust · September 2015

Docmandu wrote: »

Wollust wrote: »

Why should I keep playing my favorite class that ZOS wants to destroy and just getting overrun by them zergs? If I can play my NB, hit harder and have the mobility I need to somehow outmanouvre the zerglings. If I can play my sorc, have a proper defensive and proper bursting? If I can play my templar, have charge, healing and execute?

Funny thing is, the templar "charge" is actually a magicka ability, with damage based on your magicka.. there's no stamina morph for it.

For mobility both DK and Templar drew the short stick. Also healing and execute (radiant) are magicka based and only really work for magicka Templars.

Stamina templar has the same problem as most other stam classes, heal using either Vigor or Rally (forcing you to go 2H)

Having a class charge is already a great thing. And yes the abilities for the templar are magicka based, I know. So are most of the class abilities in this game. BUT. Templars get a spam stamina morph (biting jabs) which is better than having two stupid stamina dots. Agree? And I was talking about magicka DK anyway, not about stamina. Stamina DK seems to perform okayish, even though there isn't really need for many of the DK abilities.
Vigor and Rally are probably the best healing combination at the moment, nothing stamina users have to complain about imo. Magicka builds are basically forced to run resto staff as well. And let's be honest, 2hander or resto staff? 2h wins by far. At least that weapon gives you a lot of weapon damage and some high hitting abilities plus major brutality and a hot.
I prefer the healing from rally and vigor one thousand times over rapid regen, healing springs, healing ward or blessing of restoration.

bertenburnyb16_ESO · September 2015

DK's are going extinct from Cyro just like the Deer before them,
u can still spot one here or there, but every day it will be less and less likely