Granted, although I have been on the game since pre-release, I have only seriously been PVPing for two months. People are tired of being pushed back to the gates every time they try to even get the scroll keeps back. People are tired of being overran by the Emp zerg which typically out numbers the DC by six to one all the time. I have heard in TS long time PVPers say that they are not going to be an AP farm for the EP and either go into the IC or just log out of the game. The past few weeks, the guild has gone from being a full raid to just a handful of people. Almost every day, you log in and we are pushed back to the gates. We try to take back the home keeps but the EP shows up with two full raids worth of people, so that it is a wipe. (We won't mention the exploits, just the numbers). Some nights, after a certain time, we /MIGHT/ be able to get our home keeps back before logging out as many of the guild have jobs and have to sleep. When I log on the next day, we are gates only. It has become why bother anymore. We can go to the IC and grind instead of bothering with the EP's AP farm. I guess that the EP wants Cyrodil to be the next PVE area,cause that is what they are getting. There is already one campaign that is completely dead with 0 points for both the DC and the AD, won't be long before ALL of the campaigns are like that if ZOS doesn't do something to fix things. It is going to take ZOS doing something as we all know that the EP won't do anything to correct this before it is too late. But, I doubt that ZOS does anything. When PVP is completely dead, I can go back to leveling the alts through Silver and Gold like I was before I started PVPing.

There is plenty of PvP to be had in the sewers.....