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ESO+ Members Should Get to Jump Ahead of Non-ESO+ Members in the PvP Queue
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UltimaJoe777✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭UltimaJoe777 wrote: »Because maybe some of those not subbing can't afford to? Not everyone is a rich fat kid you know... Not saying this at anyone particular of course but they know who they are. That's right kid I'm onto your little cookie jar binge... Beware the cookie monster!
Yes, and those who can pay and are supporting the game to make sure that those who aren't 'rich fat kids' can continue playing the game into the future should receive some additional perks. As I've said, other MMOs do it and it works perfectly fine, I've never heard of anyone leaving simply because "paying members have queue priority" because most understand that if you are continually supporting the game, then they should some additional benefits.
The perks you already receive are plenty. Personally I think leveling in this game is already too fast even without exp bonuses so the true benefit is the lessened research time for the time being, which is again just a speed-up. The real dealbreaker is the coming Crafting Bag that serves as a seperate inventory for crafting supplies. Really what more could a subscriber ask for? Don't be so greedy... Modesty is the best policy in my book after all.Edited by UltimaJoe777 on September 24, 2015 2:41PMGuildmaster of Power With Numbers in PS4 NA Server's Aldmeri Dominion.
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✭✭NoI'm a ESO+ member and I vote NO.
This is only a way of segreting the Non ESO+ members that also have purchased Imperial City and deserve as much as the ESO+ member to have access to it.
This will only make queue extremly long for certain poeple and *** them off.
I've see this in ArcheAge at release, and that felt so so so so wrong, even in that particular case, it was relatively fair regarding a certain competition concerning lands. but as result, some sever had 24h queue for non suscriber!!! 24h queue!!!!1 -
YesAbsolutely because 10% gold and experience is seeming to just not be worth the money hoenstly.1 -
myrrrorb14_ESO✭✭✭✭✭Nostonerskate109 wrote: »Absolutely because 10% gold and experience is seeming to just not be worth the money hoenstly.
It was never meant to tbh. Those perks are meant to be a thank you for supporting the game. The same goes for the crown stipend.
From a financial point of view it makes no sense to sub at this time. Its cheaper to just buy the dlc when it comes out. Since they will put out only 3ish updates in a year it will be a bit before you see value for the money.
Right now its about supporting zos. The perks are a nice thank you.1 -
Yggdrasil_Gof✭✭✭NoNO! Total BS. I take it plus members don't get any percs already. If that's the case stop paying, otherwise accept you already have percs. I sometimes have to wait up to an hour and a half in a que, if it was longer I wouldn't bother playing ultimately make PvP for + member only as they they all jump to the front of the que. I would maybe have to wait hours watching my place in the que go from 124 to 157 because a bunch of + members joined the que. If Zenimax did this they would lose players and sales. Some people, (not me), only buy the game for PvP, and not many of then will want to wait that long to play, especially as some of them may only have an hour or two to play. People moan about forcing PvP players to PvE that's exactly what you'd to to all free players. Stop being selfish, accept you've already getting the value of what you signed up to pay for, and that you probably will get more extras in the future to keep enticing you to pay.1 -
DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Is this not going to be a rather moot topic once the initial surge from the new DLC's end and things smooth out?
Now that IC is active, grouping is far easier and, I would suspect that queing in Cyrodil is far easier too.
Am I wrong?
I'm sure that, as the game grows and moves forward (and they add more server capacity), things will become much more efficient.
Patience.0 -
Personofsecrets✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭NoESO + members should get to skip the line because this game isn't p2w!Rest in Peace:
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DenMoria✭✭✭✭✭
✭Personofsecrets wrote: »ESO + members should get to skip the line because this game isn't p2w!
That doesn't make any sense. If you get to skip the line and you are a sub, wouldn't that make you be taking advantage of p2w, since you are paying already,?0 -
OneWhomWaits✭✭✭I won't vote on this poll because I haven't figured out pvp yet, (late comer to the game), so it would be unfair to vote since I have no skin in the game.
What I can remark on for plus memberships is the perks portion. I pay 5 people's worth of PlayStation plus fees to access this game. On top of that I pay for 3 of them to have ESO Plus memberships. I had to buy 5 separate copies of this game for us all to play together. In June I bought 3 more PS4's for my house once I figured out we had to be on separate systems to play at the same time. This is just for zos to understand my demographic for the feedback. In other mmo games I am a pay to win player. I've seen what that environment has done to other games and hate to see this one head down that path.
I do find the perks I receive for the cost to be very low compared to other mmo franchises I have bought into. Once I hit VR16 on my toon, and maybe sooner, I'll probably drop all of the ESO plus memberships I have. It just does not really have very many benefits.
Should you increase plus membership perks to attract and retain members -definitely.
Should this specific change be made? Looks like it would be very controversial.
I agree that more is needed, I am just not sure it should be at the expense of others. Giving me the perks I have takes nothing away from another's game play. Directly affecting their gameplay to give me another perk does. I have a harder time wanting that for my toons.
A mmo community is not just those who can afford to buy everything, it would be a very empty game without the huge world of folks who cannot. I want them to stick around too. Otherwise any money I invest into my toon becomes a waste sooner than it should.
Edited by OneWhomWaits on September 24, 2015 7:06PM2 -
me_ming✭✭✭✭✭NoUltimaJoe777 wrote: »Because maybe some of those not subbing can't afford to? Not everyone is a rich fat kid you know... Not saying this at anyone particular of course but they know who they are. That's right kid I'm onto your little cookie jar binge... Beware the cookie monster!
Yes, and those who can pay and are supporting the game to make sure that those who aren't 'rich fat kids' can continue playing the game into the future should receive some additional perks. As I've said, other MMOs do it and it works perfectly fine, I've never heard of anyone leaving simply because "paying members have queue priority" because most understand that if you are continually supporting the game, then they should some additional benefits.
This is such an elitist way of thinking. How sure are you that those who aren't ESO+ members not supporting the game? being an ESO+ member is just ONE way of supporting the game. If ZOS would only care about ESO+ members then 'rich fat kids' (I'm assuming you are referring to yourself), would be the only ones playing this game. Probably by that time you will have no more queue getting in Cyrodiil, because you're the only one in it. Have fun with that!
Again, I have no qualms of members getting other form of perks, as I am one too. But this one is just not right. If you're in a queue, learn to respect other people who are before you. Besides, I highly doubt people who are queuing to get into Cyrodiil want to actually PvP, they just want access to IC, without even helping how they can help their alliance. As much as I dislike the EP zergs in Azura's, I actually commend them for actually playing in Cyrodiil. But that's for another forum, I suppose.Edited by me_ming on September 25, 2015 6:02AM"We're heroes, my boon companion, and heroes always win! Let that be a lesson to you."
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PinoZino✭✭✭✭NoOne of the benefits of ESO+ should be that you get to jump ahead of non-ESO+ members in the PvP queue. Those that pay the monthly sub should get honest benefits in this game. The current "benefits" we get with ESO+ is not close to being enough.
It's not on you to decide if the benefits are not being enough. The 'market' will do.
If you're not satisfied, stop the subscription.
When your benefits are too big, the regular players would leave the game.
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FireCowCommando✭✭✭✭✭NoA change like this is not about convience, instead it would create a player tier system. You pay for plus you are premium, i would understand that if this game was free to play, but its Buy2Play.
Too much.0 -
Gipo✭✭No
^ What he saidPangnirtung wrote: »So if I buy the DLC being a non plus member I should still be put behind the queue? Baloney.
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Yggdrasil_Gof✭✭✭NoIf + members don't feel they are getting enough, fine ask for more, but as someone else pointed out you are asking for other players to get less than they actually paid for themselves when they paid for the game. As I pointed out if I ended up going further down the que instead of up, I wouldn't bother playing PvP anymore, and the same for many others. I paid for a game that promised PvP when I bought it, if I was unable to play PvP because of your recommendation can I get half the money for my disk back as it will become pay to play. Maybe the sub price should go up to pay to compensate all the free to play gamers who specifically bought the game for PvP.0
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Yggdrasil_Gof✭✭✭NoJust on another note the margin between yes and no seem too small for anyone official to listen anyway.0
