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Someone has more weapon damage than me, running less weapon damage sets

  • McSwaggins
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    Leandor wrote: »
    What's both of your races? If he's an orc, he gets up to 4% bonus on weapon damage, afaik.

    He's Imperial, Im khajiit
  • Leandor
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    Sorry, edited in additional questions in the previous post o:)

    But that partially explains the stamina difference.
    Edited by Leandor on September 24, 2015 9:33AM
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Does he use the same gear with the same level and quality to get weapon damage?
    Is it possible that he has any buff from pvp? (10% increased weapon damage after capturing something, 5% increased weapon damage for holding enemy scrolls)
  • McSwaggins
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Sorry, edited in additional questions in the previous post o:)

    But that partially explains the stamina difference.

    We have the same two sets that add weapon damage, same quality. And the sets are jewelerry and weapons so they can'tadd more weapon damage. the sets are agility and shadow walker. He has engine, and willows path on his body, and I have shield breaker and morag's tong.
    Does he use the same gear with the same level and quality to get weapon damage?
    Is it possible that he has any buff from pvp? (10% increased weapon damage after capturing something, 5% increased weapon damage for holding enemy scrolls)

    He had no buffs
  • Leandor
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    Do me a favour and eat some blue stam/health food and check whether your weapon damage changes. I know it should not, but maybe there is something bonkers.
  • McSwaggins
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Do me a favour and eat some blue stam/health food and check whether your weapon damage changes. I know it should not, but maybe there is something bonkers.

    The other guy had regen pots though
  • Leandor
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    McSwaggins wrote: »
    Leandor wrote: »
    Do me a favour and eat some blue stam/health food and check whether your weapon damage changes. I know it should not, but maybe there is something bonkers.

    The other guy had regen pots though
    He still has 6k more stamina than you.
  • Docmandu
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    Install http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1114-MyBuild.html and post your build and his build.
  • McSwaggins
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    Install http://www.esoui.com/downloads/info1114-MyBuild.html and post your build and his build.

    How am I supposed to post his build?
  • Leandor
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    Ask him to install and make a screenshot to send to you.
  • McSwaggins
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Ask him to install and make a screenshot to send to you.
    It was on a youtuber's build so I doubt they will respond
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    Well, then link the video, maybe we can find something helpfull there.
  • McSwaggins
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    http://www.twitch.tv/sypherpk/v/17427708

    He hasn't uploaded the build video yet, but it's about 11:00 minutes into his stream
  • UltimaJoe777
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    McSwaggins wrote: »
    http://www.twitch.tv/sypherpk/v/17427708

    He hasn't uploaded the build video yet, but it's about 11:00 minutes into his stream

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  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    @Sypher Maybe you want to solve this and tell him how you get your weapon damage.
  • Leandor
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    Okay, now we have one side of the equation. If you post your setup now, @McSwaggins, I think we come closer to a resolution.
  • BuggeX
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    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?
    Edited by BuggeX on September 24, 2015 11:59AM
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  • McSwaggins
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage
  • Dagoth_Rac
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    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage

    The upgrade to gold gives like 200+ weapon damage compared to purple.

  • leepalmer95
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    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    Did you both got v16 Weaps?

    Yeah, I have v16

    Are they both the same quality? difference between a purple gold and v16 is 150 unbuffed dmg.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • McSwaggins
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    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage

    The upgrade to gold gives like 200+ weapon damage compared to purple.

    I went to upgrade my weapons to gold and it said that it was only adding like an extra 15 weapon damage though...
  • leepalmer95
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    McSwaggins wrote: »
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage

    The upgrade to gold gives like 200+ weapon damage compared to purple.

    I went to upgrade my weapons to gold and it said that it was only adding like an extra 15 weapon damage though...

    not the v15/16's ones, in this patch they add a lot.
    PS4 EU DC

    Current CP : 756+

    I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.


    RIP my effort to get 5x v16 characters...
  • BuggeX
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    McSwaggins wrote: »
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage

    The upgrade to gold gives like 200+ weapon damage compared to purple.

    I went to upgrade my weapons to gold and it said that it was only adding like an extra 15 weapon damage though...

    dont Forgett all +% bonis from serveral passivs
    #makemagickadkgreataigan
    #givemeaexecute
    #ineedheal
    #betterhotfixgrindspots
  • McSwaggins
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    Yeah I went to upgrade my v16 ones and it only said it was going to be an extra 10 or 15
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage

    The upgrade to gold gives like 200+ weapon damage compared to purple.

    I went to upgrade my weapons to gold and it said that it was only adding like an extra 15 weapon damage though...

    not the v15/16's ones, in this patch they add a lot.

    Edited by McSwaggins on September 24, 2015 12:12PM
  • McSwaggins
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    BuggeX wrote: »
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    Dagoth_Rac wrote: »
    McSwaggins wrote: »
    BuggeX wrote: »
    you are sure sypher is using also v14/15 ?
    and also just epic and not legandary?

    The only difference is that he has v16 jewlery, and my necklace is v15 because im not filthy rich. he has upgraged his agility sword to gold, but that shouldn't be make a huge difference in weapon damage

    The upgrade to gold gives like 200+ weapon damage compared to purple.

    I went to upgrade my weapons to gold and it said that it was only adding like an extra 15 weapon damage though...

    dont Forgett all +% bonis from serveral passivs

    I have pretty much all the passives, definitely have all the ones that add weapon damage
  • Leandor
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    Upgrade to gold weapons. You may have missed something, because the difference between purple and gold is definitely and without doubt more than 10 or 15, trust us. Difference between V15 and V16 enchants as well as set bonuses is also significant. All that, combined with flawless, easily makes up the difference you noticed.
  • McSwaggins
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    Leandor wrote: »
    Upgrade to gold weapons. You may have missed something, because the difference between purple and gold is definitely and without doubt more than 10 or 15, trust us. Difference between V15 and V16 enchants as well as set bonuses is also significant. All that, combined with flawless, easily makes up the difference you noticed.

    When the servers get back up I'll check again, but if it still says it'll only add a little extra I'll post screens of it
  • S1ipperyJim
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    Has anyone mentioned CP yet? Because McSwiggins appears to only have around 90 whereas Sypher has nearly 400 which gives him a ton more stamina from CP, also Sypher has all attributes into stamina and Mac has about a 50/split. Theres your problem right there.
  • lolo_01b16_ESO
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    When you upgrade your weapons you'll get increased weapon damage from 2 different sources. The set bonus will increase a bit (that might be only 15) and the raw damage of the weapon will increase (which is quite a lot for v16 weapons).
    Has anyone mentioned CP yet? Because McSwiggins appears to only have around 90 whereas Sypher has nearly 400 which gives him a ton more stamina from CP, also Sypher has all attributes into stamina and Mac has about a 50/split. Theres your problem right there.

    Cp and max stamina don't change your weapon damage at all. Putting CP into Mighty doesn't even increase the damage in the skill tool tips. It just causes your attacks to do more damage than stated in the tooltip.
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