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ESO+ Members Should Get to Jump Ahead of Non-ESO+ Members in the PvP Queue

  • xXNesTXx
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    I am Plus member since beginning, but this is my last month, because ZoS no deserves more money.....maintenance every 15 days, servers down, login problems....lag....

    The solution is not pay for enter faster, the solution is do the things right and start kicking to the people that left the sticks blocked to spin over himself to avoid being kicked for inactivity or enable the possibility of enter in Cyrodiil or Imperial City in different queue
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  • DenMoria
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    If people are willing to pay a sub they should get perks. It's not P2W it's pay to get in faster.
    Same thing. Those who are in the zone will block access to the zone for others who have already paid for the DLC but who are not on subscription, therefore, those who had subs would get 1st crack at it.

    If, every time someone with a sub was moved ahead of others in the queue then there may be instances where someone who is in the queue never get in.

    How it that fair. Those of us with subs already get a boost to experience along with crowns on a monthly basis. Perks maybe I can see since you've spent the 60-70 on the game and are paying $15 a month (it gets expensive) while those without subs just had to pay for the game itself and purchase other stuff outside of it.

    Besides, I doubt if subs are the vast majority of folks playing at this point. I can't imagine with the new model having been put in place that there are truly that many people that are paying for subs with such a minimum of return.

    On the other hand, if this was implemented, I could certainly see subs increasing. I don't think that it would really make that much of a difference though. If subs increased and this was implemented then we'd be back in the same queue boat again, only this time with mostly subs.

    IMHO
  • Violynne
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    JD2013 wrote: »
    And I say this as an ESO Plus member.
    Yes, and I say this as a non-sub member.

    It might tempt me to sub.

    Perks makes a difference.
  • UltimaJoe777
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    MikeB wrote: »
    ESO+ Members Should Get to Jump Ahead of Non-ESO+ Members in the PvP Queue

    No, they shouldn't. Subscribing in no way makes you more important than non-subscribers.
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  • MudcrabsRus
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    No
    No and I'm eso + also.
  • Kartalin
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    No
    As a subscriber since early access, No. Realistically I could see it as another potential money grab, but that would be pretty alienating to non-subscribers who couldn't/didn't pay. Besides, I think ZOS generates more money through the crown store than through subscriptions. A lot more.
  • DenMoria
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    MikeB wrote: »
    ESO+ Members Should Get to Jump Ahead of Non-ESO+ Members in the PvP Queue

    No, they shouldn't. Subscribing in no way makes you more important than non-subscribers.

    Other than to the company to whom you are paying the sub, of course. I am willing to bet you that there is a matrix at ZOS that checks whether your complaint/issue/compliment, etc... matches against a matching subscription record and those that do are given preference over non-subs. It just makes good business sense to pay more attention to those users that actually contribute monetarily to your business on an ongoing business over those that were just a one time purchase. Any sensible company would do that.

    After all, the average sub has not only purchased the actual game (in the 60-70 range on console, I don't know what was paid on the PC side) and is paying an average of $15 a month (for around $200 a year) and may or may not have multiple subs and be making additional purchases at the crown store. Even if you only have 1,000 subs you would be gaining at least an additional 200K a year just from them whereas you'd be getting nothing from a non-sub (unless, of course they purchased crown store items, but, how would you know that without significant analysis of purchases, but it would probably not be as high as your subs).

    I'm just saying that, to any sane company with a good business model, those with subscriptions would be far more important than a non-subscriber.

    IMHO
  • DenMoria
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    milthalas wrote: »
    As a subscriber since early access, No. Realistically I could see it as another potential money grab, but that would be pretty alienating to non-subscribers who couldn't/didn't pay. Besides, I think ZOS generates more money through the crown store than through subscriptions. A lot more.

    Really? I can honestly say that I've never purchased anything from the crown store and I'm a sub. There's nothing there to purchase except cosmetics, pointless animals and, to me, P2W items (scrolls, potions, etc... that you really didn't work for).

    It's just my opinion. I know I'm probably wrong. You know what they say about opinions.
  • LordSemaj
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    No
    DenMoria wrote: »
    milthalas wrote: »
    As a subscriber since early access, No. Realistically I could see it as another potential money grab, but that would be pretty alienating to non-subscribers who couldn't/didn't pay. Besides, I think ZOS generates more money through the crown store than through subscriptions. A lot more.

    Really? I can honestly say that I've never purchased anything from the crown store and I'm a sub. There's nothing there to purchase except cosmetics, pointless animals and, to me, P2W items (scrolls, potions, etc... that you really didn't work for).

    It's just my opinion. I know I'm probably wrong. You know what they say about opinions.

    This just in... an entire DLC for permanent ownership.
  • BigM
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    What I get from this thread is the biggest mistake ZoS did was run a megaserver. I think it would have been better if they ran 5 or 6 different realms and like WoW does share the group dungeons for grouping.
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  • DenMoria
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    LordSemaj wrote: »
    DenMoria wrote: »
    milthalas wrote: »
    As a subscriber since early access, No. Realistically I could see it as another potential money grab, but that would be pretty alienating to non-subscribers who couldn't/didn't pay. Besides, I think ZOS generates more money through the crown store than through subscriptions. A lot more.

    Really? I can honestly say that I've never purchased anything from the crown store and I'm a sub. There's nothing there to purchase except cosmetics, pointless animals and, to me, P2W items (scrolls, potions, etc... that you really didn't work for).

    It's just my opinion. I know I'm probably wrong. You know what they say about opinions.

    This just in... an entire DLC for permanent ownership.

    Your point? So you own a DLC. Again, single time purchase. That doesn't give you an up, business wise on people that make money for the company on an ongoing basis. Oh woop, woop, you spend $20 and got the DLC. So what? If you do not have a sub, you are probably not even on ZOS's radar.

    I have the crowns to purchase the DLC as well whether or not I have an active sub (it was active for an extended period), but, if I don't sub, why would they pay attention to me?
  • Rev Rielle
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    No, personally I think this is a silly idea.
    Those of us that pay a monthly fee already get benefits in this game.
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  • Yolokin_Swagonborn
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    Not subscribed. If this was the case i wouldn't scream about it.
  • Strider_Roshin
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    No
    As an ESO+ member I'm saying no. Non-members didn't spend good money on this game just to be pushed to the back of the line. I don't care if other games have done this; it isn't right.
    Edited by Strider_Roshin on September 24, 2015 5:33AM
  • ADarklore
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    Yes
    In DCUO, subscribers get put ahead of non-subscribers in queue, it only makes sense to do so. WHY would you make the players who are actively and consistently supporting the game have to wait behind those who aren't?
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  • UltimaJoe777
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    ADarklore wrote: »
    In DCUO, subscribers get put ahead of non-subscribers in queue, it only makes sense to do so. WHY would you make the players who are actively and consistently supporting the game have to wait behind those who aren't?

    Because maybe some of those not subbing can't afford to? Not everyone is a rich fat kid you know... Not saying this at anyone particular of course but they know who they are. That's right kid I'm onto your little cookie jar binge... Beware the cookie monster!

    Oh sorry what were we discussing again?
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  • Eejit1331
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    Yes
    That's how it worked in DCUO. that was free to play, so small difference, but I've seen it work where there are two queues, so not necessarily jumping ahead since they are separate lines.
  • me_ming
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    No
    I'm an ESO+ and I do enjoy my perks in game as it is. Do I want more perks? Of course. I'm not opposed to ESO+ members that want more perks in game (eg PvP queue advantages or whatnots). Although I do think that it's quite frustrating for a non-ESO+ who may be waiting in queue for hours and then for someone to just cut in line. Yeah, I know it's the "you get what you pay" mentality, but, personally, I'm not the screw-them-they-didn't-pay-for-this-advantage kind of a person.
    Edited by me_ming on September 24, 2015 1:00PM
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  • Reverb
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    No
    No, but I do think that people queuing for their Home campaign should be given priority over people guesting and people in the group queue who neither home nor guest there.
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  • ADarklore
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    Yes
    Because maybe some of those not subbing can't afford to? Not everyone is a rich fat kid you know... Not saying this at anyone particular of course but they know who they are. That's right kid I'm onto your little cookie jar binge... Beware the cookie monster!

    Yes, and those who can pay and are supporting the game to make sure that those who aren't 'rich fat kids' can continue playing the game into the future should receive some additional perks. As I've said, other MMOs do it and it works perfectly fine, I've never heard of anyone leaving simply because "paying members have queue priority" because most understand that if you are continually supporting the game, then they should some additional benefits.
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  • NDwarf
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    ESO Plus Members who buy crowns should have faster access times then plain old ESO Plus members. Like ESO Plus VIP rewards.

    The non-plus members should enter through the servants entrance and wear boot covers when walking in the main living area. Hair to be above the collar, shirt tucked in, tattoos covered with sleeves, piercings removed, and no facial hair allowed.
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  • Scorpio_Alik'ri
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    Well since I'm on ps4 there's really not much of a queue, only about 30 seconds or so even if the campaign servers are full.
  • Resipsa131
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    Yes but in all honestly they should just open more campaigns and then close them when the player base has died down a bit.
  • Leeric
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    No, because if you buy IC with crowns you are still supporting the game but don't get to jump. Which would make no sense in this case.
  • Hope499
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    No
    Wow, people actually voted yes?

    Hell no it shouldn't...
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  • Seth_Black
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    GJ! ...really creating a poll that in F2P/B2P game creates clear kind of racist view about 'other side'
    You can pay, can afford it - feel free to pay (hell, you support the game - give yourself pat on the back and keep playing)
    You can't, got other approach to it - don't (and you don't need to shout about it - no one cares really)

    It's literally no ones business if you pay or not.
    Why you pay, why you don't - that's your own private choice

    And really there's no point to 'demand' or 'suggest' that someone should get something different or more of it.
    Community doesn't set the rules :) you're 5 yo or what?

    All you've got is a choice given to you... not really up for discussion.
    And THAT'S why P2P games have best communities in mmo world - NO ONE COMPLAINS since all are equal.
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  • Leandor
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    Reverb wrote: »
    No, but I do think that people queuing for their Home campaign should be given priority over people guesting and people in the group queue who neither home nor guest there.
    Now, give this man a price. He's got it exactly right. Also make sure that group joins are even lower priority than guests and make that low priority count for the whole group as soon as one player is with them that is neither guested nor homed on the campaign to be joined.
  • Leeric
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    No
    Besides there are people who paid a sub in the past when this wasn't B2P and have since stopped, and this would be another thing to screw them over...
  • Akrasjel
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    No
    Im for the ESO+ Members to have maby more benefits.. but it's not like i didnt pay for the game and the DLC.
    If it was an actual F2P then it would be a diffrent story.
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  • Hope499
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    No
    xXNesTXx wrote: »
    No

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    The solution is not pay for enter faster,

    Just seeing it typed out makes me cringe.


    You pay, to enter a game you purchased faster. That is going down SUUUUCH a dark road, I am blown away some of you voted yes....

    I could NOT, throw my game in the trash fast enough, if that happened. This entire community/game would just turn into a pathetic joke....even more so than now.

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