Planar Inhibitor Console Feedback - Switching roles

Timeetyo · September 2015

There are plenty of threads on the difficulty and strategies for this fight and I'll leave my thoughts there on those pieces. I wanted to talk about the design choice of forcing the tank to swap roles mid dungeon (and then swap back) on a console with no addon support to allow us to quickly swap out skills & gear.

My issue is that the run goes like this: kill trash, kill boss, kill trash, kill boss, kill trash......ok guys gotta swap gear / skills. 2 guys go to bathroom breaks, 1 guy to smoke....ok. Kill boss. Get loot....crap, 1 min I have to swap everything back....(others fire up youtube while waiting)....ok back to finishing the dungeon.

Now - if we had a function similar to the PC addons that let you setup gear/skills and swap instantly this would be a non-issue. As is - it is a pain in the butt that breaks up the flow of the dungeon which takes away from what could be a much more fun experience.

Let me be clear:
- I don't mind that as a tank I need to do pure dps for a boss fight
- I don't mind that this means I have to keep skills / gear for 2 complete roles
- I DO mind what this does to the flow of the dungeon run as it takes forever to swap over

DisgracefulMind · September 2015

This MUST be absolutely annoying. This is really where the downfall of playing on console shows: these sort of situations. Would be hard to speed run and such too. /:

Timeetyo · September 2015

Yeah its one of those things that although not game breaking (just causes us to wait unnecessarily) just drives us nuts. Sad that I have to keep a notepad next to me with both sets of bars so that I can switch relatively quickly and not misplace a skill since you end up using a very specific build for this fight.

Life would be much better with the ability to save skill/gear specs and swap quickly. Especially so for this dungeon but also for ALL console players (i.e. swapping PvE dungeon spec to PvP spec).

Drinkycrow · September 2015

I feel your pain. Currently there is no good gear/spec swapping addon that is working right for the current patch but I can only imagine this being 10 times worse on the consoles.

This is something that should be part of the base game UI on all versions but its quite obvious ZOS is not up to the task nor will they ever be.

Suru · September 2015

Timeetyo wrote: »

There are plenty of threads on the difficulty and strategies for this fight and I'll leave my thoughts there on those pieces. I wanted to talk about the design choice of forcing the tank to swap roles mid dungeon (and then swap back) on a console with no addon support to allow us to quickly swap out skills & gear.

My issue is that the run goes like this: kill trash, kill boss, kill trash, kill boss, kill trash......ok guys gotta swap gear / skills. 2 guys go to bathroom breaks, 1 guy to smoke....ok. Kill boss. Get loot....crap, 1 min I have to swap everything back....(others fire up youtube while waiting)....ok back to finishing the dungeon.

Now - if we had a function similar to the PC addons that let you setup gear/skills and swap instantly this would be a non-issue. As is - it is a pain in the butt that breaks up the flow of the dungeon which takes away from what could be a much more fun experience.

Let me be clear:
- I don't mind that as a tank I need to do pure dps for a boss fight
- I don't mind that this means I have to keep skills / gear for 2 complete roles
- I DO mind what this does to the flow of the dungeon run as it takes forever to swap over

I've gotten yelled at by other people for this problem *cough* @DisgracefulMind *cough*

jk, but yea I feel your pain. Only think I can suggest is maybe listing your DPS gear as "junk" (which is a tab that is empty 99% of the time) so you can just press equip the gear effortlessly. As for skills, no easy solution there sorry

First part saves time maybe but re-equipping gear and skills afterwards is always gonna be a pain without addons.

DisgracefulMind · September 2015

Suru wrote: »

Timeetyo wrote: »

There are plenty of threads on the difficulty and strategies for this fight and I'll leave my thoughts there on those pieces. I wanted to talk about the design choice of forcing the tank to swap roles mid dungeon (and then swap back) on a console with no addon support to allow us to quickly swap out skills & gear.

My issue is that the run goes like this: kill trash, kill boss, kill trash, kill boss, kill trash......ok guys gotta swap gear / skills. 2 guys go to bathroom breaks, 1 guy to smoke....ok. Kill boss. Get loot....crap, 1 min I have to swap everything back....(others fire up youtube while waiting)....ok back to finishing the dungeon.

Now - if we had a function similar to the PC addons that let you setup gear/skills and swap instantly this would be a non-issue. As is - it is a pain in the butt that breaks up the flow of the dungeon which takes away from what could be a much more fun experience.

Let me be clear:
- I don't mind that as a tank I need to do pure dps for a boss fight
- I don't mind that this means I have to keep skills / gear for 2 complete roles
- I DO mind what this does to the flow of the dungeon run as it takes forever to swap over

I've gotten yelled at by other people for this problem *cough* @DisgracefulMind *cough*

jk, but yea I feel your pain. Only think I can suggest is maybe listing your DPS gear as "junk" (which is a tab that is empty 99% of the time) so you can just press equip the gear effortlessly. As for skills, no easy solution there sorry First part saves time maybe but re-equipping gear and skills afterwards is always gonna be a pain without addons.

Which problem? Taking so long that everyone afks? xD

Timeetyo · September 2015

Suru wrote: »

Timeetyo wrote: »

There are plenty of threads on the difficulty and strategies for this fight and I'll leave my thoughts there on those pieces. I wanted to talk about the design choice of forcing the tank to swap roles mid dungeon (and then swap back) on a console with no addon support to allow us to quickly swap out skills & gear.

My issue is that the run goes like this: kill trash, kill boss, kill trash, kill boss, kill trash......ok guys gotta swap gear / skills. 2 guys go to bathroom breaks, 1 guy to smoke....ok. Kill boss. Get loot....crap, 1 min I have to swap everything back....(others fire up youtube while waiting)....ok back to finishing the dungeon.

Now - if we had a function similar to the PC addons that let you setup gear/skills and swap instantly this would be a non-issue. As is - it is a pain in the butt that breaks up the flow of the dungeon which takes away from what could be a much more fun experience.

Let me be clear:
- I don't mind that as a tank I need to do pure dps for a boss fight
- I don't mind that this means I have to keep skills / gear for 2 complete roles
- I DO mind what this does to the flow of the dungeon run as it takes forever to swap over

I've gotten yelled at by other people for this problem *cough* @DisgracefulMind *cough*

jk, but yea I feel your pain. Only think I can suggest is maybe listing your DPS gear as "junk" (which is a tab that is empty 99% of the time) so you can just press equip the gear effortlessly. As for skills, no easy solution there sorry First part saves time maybe but re-equipping gear and skills afterwards is always gonna be a pain without addons.

Sadly we don't have separate tabs like that on console. We have to go into each slot individually through a clunky UI and do 1 at a time.

Suru · September 2015

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Suru wrote: »

Timeetyo wrote: »

There are plenty of threads on the difficulty and strategies for this fight and I'll leave my thoughts there on those pieces. I wanted to talk about the design choice of forcing the tank to swap roles mid dungeon (and then swap back) on a console with no addon support to allow us to quickly swap out skills & gear.

My issue is that the run goes like this: kill trash, kill boss, kill trash, kill boss, kill trash......ok guys gotta swap gear / skills. 2 guys go to bathroom breaks, 1 guy to smoke....ok. Kill boss. Get loot....crap, 1 min I have to swap everything back....(others fire up youtube while waiting)....ok back to finishing the dungeon.

Now - if we had a function similar to the PC addons that let you setup gear/skills and swap instantly this would be a non-issue. As is - it is a pain in the butt that breaks up the flow of the dungeon which takes away from what could be a much more fun experience.

Let me be clear:
- I don't mind that as a tank I need to do pure dps for a boss fight
- I don't mind that this means I have to keep skills / gear for 2 complete roles
- I DO mind what this does to the flow of the dungeon run as it takes forever to swap over

I've gotten yelled at by other people for this problem *cough* @DisgracefulMind *cough*

jk, but yea I feel your pain. Only think I can suggest is maybe listing your DPS gear as "junk" (which is a tab that is empty 99% of the time) so you can just press equip the gear effortlessly. As for skills, no easy solution there sorry First part saves time maybe but re-equipping gear and skills afterwards is always gonna be a pain without addons.

Which problem? Taking so long that everyone afks? xD

.............:(

Leon119 · September 2015

Im using addons to swap skills and gear and i get bored half the time to do so
I feel you