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When will Dark Flare get the Crystal Fragments treatment?
BugCollector
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Meaning a chance to instant cast with reduced cost.
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Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
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Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭Insta-cast aoe major healing debuff? That buffs its own damage?
They can take off the empower buff.
I think a healing debuff vs. a knockdown is fair.Daggerfall Covenant
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eventide03b14a_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Insta-cast aoe major healing debuff? That buffs its own damage?
Where is the LOL button!? I nominate this as the funniest suggestion ever.Sallington wrote: »
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✭I use the Solar barrage morph, I treat it like a buff instead of an attack. It can be used outside of combat with no target, its an insta cast 20% more damage buff.
Dark flare with instant cast would be OP.2 -
Sallington✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭eventide03b14a_ESO wrote: »Insta-cast aoe major healing debuff? That buffs its own damage?
Where is the LOL button!? I nominate this as the funniest suggestion ever.Sallington wrote: »
You don't think a hard CC is as useful as a healing debuff in PvP?Daggerfall Covenant
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✭✭✭✭✭Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.Auri-El is my lord,
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment3 -
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It would be unbalanced. Healing AoE Debuff and EmpowerBugCollector wrote: »Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.#MOREORBS1 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.
Because it is a support ability after all. Meant to put a damage debuff on the target and to put a mighty healing debuff on them and besides that, it also deals high damage.
You really can't compare crystal shard and Flare. If you totally forget about the effect of flare and also ask for an instant chance on top, you are the one who must be kidding.Auri-El is my lord,
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BugCollector✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.
Because it is a support ability after all. Meant to put a damage debuff on the target and to put a mighty healing debuff on them and besides that, it also deals high damage.
You really can't compare crystal shard and Flare. If you totally forget about the effect of flare and also ask for an instant chance on top, you are the one who must be kidding.
You want it to be a support ability. I want Dark Flare to be the bread and butter dps skill for Templar Casters.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment2 -
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It would be unbalanced. Healing AoE Debuff and EmpowerBugCollector wrote: »Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.
They can remove the aoe debuff and make it a single target debuff. Heck, they can even remove Empower for the instant cast chance.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment2 -
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✭✭✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »
It would be unbalanced. Healing AoE Debuff and EmpowerBugCollector wrote: »Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.
They can remove the aoe debuff and make it a single target debuff. Heck, they can even remove Empower for the instant cast chance.
I would give up empower for a chance at instant cast.Lone Wolf HelpFor the solo players who know, sometimes you just need a hand.PC | NA | AD-DC-EP | Discord3 -
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✭✭I know right. I dumped Dark Flare after months of using it and keeping it close to my pillow at night, but now it's like a feather. "You cast [Tickle Flare] and cause 0,00 damage!" Although it isn't all about the damage ofc, the heal debuff is great. Still, I yawned casting it.
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✭✭✭✭✭I support this change only because I want to see "OMG look at this noob hard casting dark flare" posted in zone all the time.2 -
Tonturri✭✭✭✭✭Imo Magicka Templars could use some help, but making a copy of Crystal Fragments except for Templars doesn't sound like the best idea. Easy - yes. Best - probably not.
Suggestions
1) Even if it does 4k damage, multiply the amount of damage it contributes to Purifying Light by x%. In short, give it better synergy with other abilities.**
2) Slight decrease in cast time to compensate for the projectile travel time
3) Maybe a stacking Empower mechanic? Cast one, it boosts the next attack by 20%, land another one and it boosts by 25%, and so on. Increment by 5% up to 2 times. Rewards multiple casts, but the cast and projectile travel time can be adjusted to balance out the damage increase. Also adds depth to casting priority and bursting. Do I want to stay in melee range and try to kite around jabs, or stay at a range and try to avoid the Dark Flares w/LoS, reflects and whatnot.
5) **ESO has the simplest ability mechanics I've seen in a modern game. I don't even know what is possible and what isn't with the engine. GW2 has combo fields, I wonder if it's possible for abilities to have different effects depending on what debuffs the target has. Say, if the target has the Vampire's Bane/Reflective Light DoT on them, Dark Flare has <x> additional effect.
Edited by Tonturri on September 21, 2015 5:16PM0 -
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✭If you want skills like a sorc, maybe you should have rolled a sorc.
Don't think of Dark Flare as Crystal Fragments, think of it as the magicka version of Wrecking Blow.
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FireCowCommando✭✭✭✭✭If you use it as a health debuff, or as a buff for the 20% gains then the utility for the skill is amazing.
If you want dark flare to be crystal fragments i dont think you understand what they were going for with this ability >.>
Dark flare is not supposed to be the same dmg/burst potential as crystal fragments, only through proper timing, such as using it to boost huge controlled burst via an ultimate does the full potential reveal itself.
Prior to IC, roll dodge or simply blocking dark flare was a no brainer, now theres serious cost to use the same counters when you see it coming.
Your best argument is trying to make it non bashable.Edited by FireCowCommando on September 21, 2015 5:46PM1 -
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✭✭BugCollector wrote: »BugCollector wrote: »Okay can crystal shard get the same damage buff that Dark flare grants ? Then I'm in.
You've got to be kidding me. Dark Flare hits a lot less hard than Frags and it's also ridiculously slow and obvious, so a chance to instant cast would absolutely not hurt, but it would finally put Templar CASTERS in a good position.
Because it is a support ability after all. Meant to put a damage debuff on the target and to put a mighty healing debuff on them and besides that, it also deals high damage.
You really can't compare crystal shard and Flare. If you totally forget about the effect of flare and also ask for an instant chance on top, you are the one who must be kidding.
You want it to be a support ability. I want Dark Flare to be the bread and butter dps skill for Templar Casters.
So you want your DPS to be at the will of RNG as frags is?
I would humbly suggest that you don't really want that...
I promise you.... you don't!
And on a side note... instant really isn't instant with frags!GM of the Unholy LegacyPC/EU/EP0 -
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✭✭At least, at the very least...
Drop the godamm trajectory, and give it a plus or less straight one. Takes a week or two between the moment it is cast, and the moment it's landing...PC EU - Zahraji of the Void, aka "Kitty", the fluffiest salmon genocider in town.
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instant cast change without empower buff and the aoe healing debuff changed to single target healing debuff. There you go.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment0 -
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✭✭Dark Flare should never get instant cast proc.Profanity filter is a crime against the freedom of speech. Also gags.0 -
BugCollector✭✭✭✭Dark Flare should never get instant cast proc.
And why is that? If they remove the aoe healing debuff and change it to single target debuff and if they remove the empower buff. What's so special about it then? Crystal Frags is a thousand times better.May knowledge guide you to enlightenment1 -
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✭✭✭BugCollector wrote: »
I... kinda like the aoe healing debuff. Just target someone in a group, and with the high travel arc its hard for the target to know they are getting hit ahead of time.0 -
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✭✭✭✭✭It's threads like these that I wish spellcrafting was in the game now ... then templars could tweak Dark Flare (and sorcerers Frags for that matter) to suit their playstyle.
Edited by Taleof2Cities on September 21, 2015 8:41PM2 -
Lightninvash✭✭✭✭✭Sallington wrote: »
I would never give up empower for instacast haha the skill is fine as is. if you want a crystal frag go roll a sorc.. that's my opinion on the matter at least =p1
