Has IC ruined Cyrodill?

Azarath_tiberius · September 2015

No

Junglejim82 wrote: »

Azarath_tiberius wrote: »

oh woow.. 48 people actually think that IC ruined PvP? I wonder how many of those do have the DLC and how many again think that because IC got released normal Cyrodiil is empty or something like that..

I find IC great. It allows fast access to pvp, lots of tight corners which you can use in your groups advantage, no need to siege an enemy out of a keep (thank god!), awesome roaming bosses which you can use against an enemy group (I can not count, how many times i've aggroed a boss to pull him into an enemy and then watch them die from his AOE )

There are downsides ofc, like for example, we need better requirements for access in IC. But the DLC just got released so ZOS wants to give everyone the opportunity to get in and see it, so I guess its understandable.

Fast access? I wasn't lying or exaggerating when I said 3 hour qs . My q on Thursday took 3 hours . I got in at 11pm I'm up for work at 6am . Previously a long q was 1 hour . I have the dlc and I'm a pvper so I didn't want to spend the 40 mins to an hour gametime I had killing mobs for stones but the campaign was empty had to hunt down some pvp .

I don't think it's permanent obviously it'll settle down. For me the option I've got is play on my one day off . If I'm working then eso isn't an option afterwards ATM . It's clear to me that waiting it out and playing catch up is my best bet. Aggroing npcs into enemy players isn't my idea of pvp . Grieving for lulz maybe but I'd rather fight player versus player no bosses involved. I've no idea why zos thought this would be OK for paying customers . Surely they could've added more campaigns the qs are ridiculous so to answer the OP then yeah it's killed cyrodil for me personally. Regularly top 2% in azura to not playing at all

1) Change campaign, especially if you only got one day to play... If everyone queues for azuras then its natural that you'll wait in line. Also i was mentioning the close respawn points, not the queue. (Disclaimer : in case you 're in console and they havent added more campaigns yet, wait it out. They added 2 more campaigns in the first week on PC)

2) Aggroeing NPCs might not be an idea for you, but considering the zergs that run around IC it is one of the best ways for small groups to defeat bigger ones. Why did ZOS make it like that? Well it would have been boring if every single NPC was just 1 or 2 shots dead. Makes the battlefield more dynamic and... fun.

DaveTheMinion · September 2015

No

I am not much of a pvp player of late, I have done my fair share as I feel you cannot have an opinion if you have never taken part.
I did enjoy the big keep battles, I even had the pleasure of joining a couple of Danish guys who made me feel welcome and part of a group, but what I hated the most was riding in a group looking to attack single targets or smaller groups, I even left a guild because of this! I did try doing pvp solo, yes it can be hard work but you can still have fun defending the keeps or reviving or healing random's from the keep walls.
I am in my early 40's and have Parkinson's so I know my competitive days have gone, but I still enjoy being part of a group with other like minded people who play for fun.

I was against the new IC content after reading some of the comments about what you were likely to expect with the way the whole campaign had been laid out, but I took the plunge and bought the download, I spent 3 hours trying to get in only to find my faction was almost non existent, so I followed a small group towards a keep that was under attack, we eventually managed to overthrow the enemy and regain our honour

three keeps later I could see the sewer entrance in the distance. Apart of me was like Naaa don't do it, your going to be turned into someone's B*@h Play toy, but another part of me said, hey who knows, it might be fun........
After playing for 3 hours I can honestly say I really enjoyed it, yes I was running about with small groups just fighting NPC's in the sewers, then we got attacked by about 20+ enemy faction players, I got myself some of those shiny stones but all in all I am so looking forward to getting back in there today for more fun and adventure.

Yes it will probably take a gamer like myself a while before I get enough stones to buy some shiny new gear but I know I will get there and hopefully have some fun along the way.

It is a shame that the waiting times are a whole lot longer now, but I think things will calm down in a few weeks.

Garwulf · September 2015

Cyrodiil is pointless and IC is pointless other than farming materials and gear. Even more pointless is the Emperor.
If I wasn't in a guild that I enjoy I would be hard pressed to bother playing this game anymore.
the fact that I am even posting rather than playing the game tells a story.

FlounderOG · September 2015

Yes

Fix the Caltrop arena buggery already.

Junglejim82 · September 2015

Yes

Azarath_tiberius wrote: »

Junglejim82 wrote: »

Azarath_tiberius wrote: »

oh woow.. 48 people actually think that IC ruined PvP? I wonder how many of those do have the DLC and how many again think that because IC got released normal Cyrodiil is empty or something like that..

I find IC great. It allows fast access to pvp, lots of tight corners which you can use in your groups advantage, no need to siege an enemy out of a keep (thank god!), awesome roaming bosses which you can use against an enemy group (I can not count, how many times i've aggroed a boss to pull him into an enemy and then watch them die from his AOE )

There are downsides ofc, like for example, we need better requirements for access in IC. But the DLC just got released so ZOS wants to give everyone the opportunity to get in and see it, so I guess its understandable.

Fast access? I wasn't lying or exaggerating when I said 3 hour qs . My q on Thursday took 3 hours . I got in at 11pm I'm up for work at 6am . Previously a long q was 1 hour . I have the dlc and I'm a pvper so I didn't want to spend the 40 mins to an hour gametime I had killing mobs for stones but the campaign was empty had to hunt down some pvp .

I don't think it's permanent obviously it'll settle down. For me the option I've got is play on my one day off . If I'm working then eso isn't an option afterwards ATM . It's clear to me that waiting it out and playing catch up is my best bet. Aggroing npcs into enemy players isn't my idea of pvp . Grieving for lulz maybe but I'd rather fight player versus player no bosses involved. I've no idea why zos thought this would be OK for paying customers . Surely they could've added more campaigns the qs are ridiculous so to answer the OP then yeah it's killed cyrodil for me personally. Regularly top 2% in azura to not playing at all

1) Change campaign, especially if you only got one day to play... If everyone queues for azuras then its natural that you'll wait in line. Also i was mentioning the close respawn points, not the queue. (Disclaimer : in case you 're in console and they havent added more campaigns yet, wait it out. They added 2 more campaigns in the first week on PC)

2) Aggroeing NPCs might not be an idea for you, but considering the zergs that run around IC it is one of the best ways for small groups to defeat bigger ones. Why did ZOS make it like that? Well it would have been boring if every single NPC was just 1 or 2 shots dead. Makes the battlefield more dynamic and... fun.

This is why I haven't been on I guested scourge as soon as it was available and was empty it was pop locked an hour later. Tried changing but it's now 150k I had 45k I couldn't get into my campaigns to pvp and couldn't change campaign s because I couldn't get into them to farm ap. Fml I know .

As I said I know it'll settle . I play around 4 hours a night usually through the week I can't spend 3 of those in a q no way just installed mgsv for when it's like that . Azuras been my campaign since launch , my guild are the best in our faction , most active and generally contribute most to the campaign score . I won't leave the fight just like that . On weekends I've got the time to q I suppose even if it is nasty so I can squeeze some eso pvp in then for now but it's not looking good for weeknights which is a pity because I do enjoy the pvp for all its faults

kevlarto_ESO · September 2015

I am not going to say ruined it, but made it different for sure, My favorite part of the game was Cyrodiil proper, there is still some good battles from time to time, as the shine wears off the IC more and more people seem to be coming back to the sunlight, but pvp in Cyrodiil will never be the same.