Dark Flare and Fast Flare

BugCollector · September 2015

Here's a little suggestion of mine to make the other morph of Solar Flare (Solar Barrage) more interesting:

Change the name to Fast Flare and make this a 0.5 second cast version of Dark Flare, but without the Empower and Major Defile buffs/debuffs.

Thoughts?

Spliffo · September 2015

No. This skill is fine how it is so leave it alone

BugCollector · September 2015

Spliffo wrote: »

No. This skill is fine how it is so leave it alone

Which one?

DisgracefulMind · September 2015

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

BugCollector · September 2015

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

Well, then just change Dark Flare a little bit. Either give it a 0.5 sec cast time or give it a chance to instant cast like Crystal Fragments.

Valrien · September 2015

BugCollector wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

Well, then just change Dark Flare a little bit. Either give it a 0.5 sec cast time or give it a chance to instant cast like Crystal Fragments.

You mean a 35% chance on the use of any other ability to get a-semi instant cast that more or less lasts 1.1 seconds, right?

DisgracefulMind · September 2015

BugCollector wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

Well, then just change Dark Flare a little bit. Either give it a 0.5 sec cast time or give it a chance to instant cast like Crystal Fragments.

I guess I can agree with the chance for a proc; however, a chance to proc WITHOUT bonus damage like Crystal Fragments has. Templars dish out insane damage as is.

BugCollector · September 2015

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

BugCollector wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

Well, then just change Dark Flare a little bit. Either give it a 0.5 sec cast time or give it a chance to instant cast like Crystal Fragments.

I guess I can agree with the chance for a proc; however, a chance to proc WITHOUT bonus damage like Crystal Fragments has. Templars dish out insane damage as is.

Yes, true.

BugCollector · September 2015

Valrien wrote: »

BugCollector wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

Well, then just change Dark Flare a little bit. Either give it a 0.5 sec cast time or give it a chance to instant cast like Crystal Fragments.

You mean a 35% chance on the use of any other ability to get a-semi instant cast that more or less lasts 1.1 seconds, right?

Not really following you. I meant the same like Crystal Fragments (sorc skill).

Moonshadow66 · September 2015

BugCollector wrote: »

Here's a little suggestion of mine to make the other morph of Solar Flare (Solar Barrage) more interesting:

Change the name to Fast Flare and make this a 0.5 second cast version of Dark Flare, but without the Empower and Major Defile buffs/debuffs.

Thoughts?

I couldn't agree more. Either change Solar Barrage (which is completely useless and does nothing than looking nice, imo), or make the cast time of Dark Flare shorter.
Or, how about Crystal Fragments handle it? Have a chance to instant-cast it.. maybe this option to replace Solar Barrage?

Valrien · September 2015

BugCollector wrote: »

Valrien wrote: »

BugCollector wrote: »

DisgracefulMind wrote: »

Solar Barrage is amazing if used correctly, why change it? lol

Well, then just change Dark Flare a little bit. Either give it a 0.5 sec cast time or give it a chance to instant cast like Crystal Fragments.

You mean a 35% chance on the use of any other ability to get a-semi instant cast that more or less lasts 1.1 seconds, right?

Not really following you. I meant the same like Crystal Fragments (sorc skill).

I know. Basically Crystal Fragments is only a chance to be instant (on the use of another ability). The "instant" cast has a messed up GCD + animation that locked you out of other skills for a short time after you cast, effectively making the cast time for the instant around 1.1 seconds.

EDIT: Unless it got fixed?

Asmael · September 2015

Asking to reduce the CD from 1.1 to 0.5 second.

That's a 120% damage increase.

Drop empower on the fast cast, that's still slightly more than a 100% increase in damage.

I don't know what you smoke before doing your math, but please share...

BugCollector · September 2015

Asmael wrote: »

Asking to reduce the CD from 1.1 to 0.5 second.

That's a 120% damage increase.

Drop empower on the fast cast, that's still slightly more than a 100% increase in damage.

I don't know what you smoke before doing your math, but please share...

Well, atleast something needs to be done with it. How would you agree with the chance to instant cast?

Ahzek · September 2015

Changing the cast time actually would not be as big of a DPS increase as it seems, since there is a global cooldown to every ability use that is higher than the 0,5 seconds cast time anyways. Similary instant cast abilities can't be dished out inifetly every second, because they take up the same global CD.
The biggest impact of this change would be in PvP, as is seen by the Uppercut/crystal frag cast time buffs, where the time to properly react to them has been reduced drastically. For example wrecking blow is very "interesting" to block or dodge sometimes, since the cast time actually finishes before the animation plays out fully. Crystal frags suffers from a different "issue", in which the time to actually bash the cast is now way shorter than the actual casting animation and it is no lomger possible to bash right before it fires.