Issues with Night's Silence 5 bonus

tisch28 · September 2015

Not sure if this is known or new or if I'm even in the right area. Recently decided to try this set out and while running around I noticed I wasn't always getting the bonus. Turns out because my 5th piece was my bow if I went into crouch with my bow I got it but if I went in with my 2H and switched to bow while stealthed I didn't receive the bonus. Vice-versa is true also, crouch with bow switch to 2H and retain the bonus.

Pretty sure I should lose the 5 piece bonus when I no longer have 5 pieces equiped. On a side note it made getting the stealth WB on people crazy fast and fun.

MrTarkanian48 · September 2015

I have also noticed this on PS4. Typically I just put NS on both Bow and 2H to avoid unexpected issues in combat. I can imagine scenarios where this wouldn't bars (having a masters 2H), but I don't have that so going NS on both worked for me.

dreamfarer · September 2015

It sounds like run speed is being calculated at the time we enter crouch mode and is then persisting for the duration of the crouch.

Algorithmically that's less of a pain than recalculating it every time we change something and given the kind of bugs we see in the game, I'd just as soon not ask them to add extra complexity to how they work things like that out.

I'm curious what speed crouching movement would revert to if you chugged a Speed potion and it wore off, or gained any other speed altering effect. Basically do they recalculate when the buff wears off or do they restore the original speed you had (either by restoring the original value directly or by recalculating to simply remove the speed buff and nothing else).

HungryHobo · September 2015

dreamfarer wrote: »

It sounds like run speed is being calculated at the time we enter crouch mode and is then persisting for the duration of the crouch.

Algorithmically that's less of a pain than recalculating it every time we change something and given the kind of bugs we see in the game, I'd just as soon not ask them to add extra complexity to how they work things like that out.

I'm curious what speed crouching movement would revert to if you chugged a Speed potion and it wore off, or gained any other speed altering effect. Basically do they recalculate when the buff wears off or do they restore the original speed you had (either by restoring the original value directly or by recalculating to simply remove the speed buff and nothing else).

Speed is recalculated on buff application/removal. Retreating maneuvers / Blur etc all get their speed boosts then wear off.

SturgeHammer · September 2015

I have ran 5 pieces of this set on my sorc since launch and have never noticed any issues with 2h and bow specifically, however both weapons are of the NS set so I probably wouldn't encounter this scenario. I do know that this set did at some point behave strangely on my vamp characters after the sneak speed stacking fix. So if you are a vamp or have concealed weapon on your bar it could be related to that. I would recommend testing this on a non-vamp non-NB and see if it is still happening.

NOTE: For those wondering why I had NS on a vamp post speed stacking fix it is because I play a ton on BWB where the last vamp passive takes a while to get. Usually there would be an overlap period where I would be wearing this armor while while having the vamp passive until I was able to swap the set out for something else.

ADarklore · September 2015

Here is how it works currently... if you crouch while you have the weapon bar active that has the 5 pc Night's Silence, you can switch to the other weapon bar (while crouched) and it will retain the 'run while sneaking'. However, if you crouch while you have the weapon bar active that does not have the 5 pc Night's Silence, if you switch weapons while crouched to the one that does have the 5 pc Night's Silence, you will NOT be able to run while sneaking. Basically, it has to do with what weapon is active 'at the time' you crouch. Previously I was running 5 pcs Night's Silence with Bow and 5 pcs Hunding's Rage with Dual Wield on the second weapon bar; gotta love DW get two crafting traits.

AlphaCrucis · September 2015

To avoid this problem just craft a 2H weapon in Nights Silence