That's a sourish post

IC is awesome. Best small PvP so far.

NPC's in the mix is the whole point lol

...Go back to Cyrodiil, its turned into small groups fighting each other over keeps and is actually really awesome, on Xbone anyway

I AM SGTRONGLY DISAGREE WITH FART YOUR OPINION OP. I AM LUKEWARM SO FAR. PVP SUCKS

gotta agree with the OP. This "pvp" update is atrocious.

Maybe he didnt put it very eloquently, but the man brings up a good point.

This isnt the place to complain though, bc no one on the forums care, especially not the devs. Just move on to a better game and leave this steaming pile of cow dung.

I understand the OP's complaint. Still I think it's kind of fun, even though it's more like PvE with the added spice of knowing you could get ganked or swamped by a zerg any moment. Like doing Cyrodiil dungeons in enemy territory.

Ackwalan wrote: »

Just how can ZOS stop people from forming zergs?

Dueling and battlegrounds, which most PvPers have been requesting since release.

I guess if you want real PvP then this game is not for you...

You're one of the very few who feel that way.

No content will please EVERYONE, nor every game, every story, etc..

With that said, I'd say the overwhelming majority are very happy with IC. We have been asking for PVE and PVP to be combined for a while. Sometimes I'm in solo fights, sometimes I'm in zerg fights, other times I'm in regular group fights. The numbers aren't always even on both sides but when you get some District boss in the middle of 3 alliance's fighting, it becomes chaotic in the most awesome way.

With that said, ZOS.. bring on more content like this!! I like PVE, I like PVP. This has both, all in walking/running distance! I admit, I was skeptical about how well Imperial City would be before playing it and I'm very impressed.

I do enjoy Cyrodiil as well, but it's a different feeling. There's a real joy to be had when an enemy zerg tries to kill you and you pop a potion and lead them right into a boss as you tag a bunch of them and escape and watch them all lay flat on the ground. HAHAHAAA... so as you see, there are good sides to zergs and bad sides. ZOS has really hit a home run with this content... heck a grand slam.

I think many of you missed the point.

This was a sensationalist post, so I am not surprised at some of the reactions. I apologise for not just being direct from the beginning.

With that said!

This is not PVP. It is a real shame that there are so many distractions and deterrents from PVP in IC.

My experience for the most part has been people grinding the mobs/elites for stones, and then me and my buddies having to try and pick a fight with them. They are obviously PVEing, so they should be just able to do that.

If the fight moves around the map more 5 feet we all end up pulling agro on several nearby NPCs which for me and my friends, takes a lot of the fun out of the fight. If I win, I don't feel like its as satisfying knowing that some NPC did some of the work, if I lose, well I would love to have known if I could have taken the enemy(s) in an actual legitimate fight.


I think it would be great to be able to PVP in an environment where we can just beat the hell out of each other and not have to worry about other *** getting in the way.

Small scale battlegrounds etc. Add a couple of different arena style games.

5 (possibly up to 10) player max per faction in each game.

If you want to play, you enter a lobby and it groups you with an instanced game (Just like most PVP games)

You could easily break up parts of IC into small scale battle fields which would be awesome. (The map itself is great. It's just the execution of the world that is lacking.)

Timed sessions, give people an objective (kills/score or map control etc.)

It wouldn't take a lot of work, and it would actually give us PVPers a legitimate place to small scale without all this nonsense.



Can anybody tell me what the purpose of being in IC is? I mean, aside from having fun if you enjoy it?

It just seems like a stone grind, loot grab hamster wheel to me?


Correct me if I'm wrong, perhaps I'm just doing it wrong, but that's all I see it as, and that's all people seem to be doing in there; Grinding for gear/xp upgrades.


I will say Cyrodiil has been awesome since IC came out. There's been plenty of smaller fights, and with less people bogging the server, its been pretty smooth.

I'm happy staying in Cyrodiil only. It's good for me. I just wanted to make a few comments about the IC, seeing as I did pay for it and was disappointed in how badly they messed it up.


**edit - spelling

Ackwalan wrote: »

Just how can ZOS stop people from forming zergs?

A good 'ol fashioned billy club outta do the trick that or communism...

Ackwalan wrote: »

Just how can ZOS stop people from forming zergs?

might have been said before. but i think a great idea is to have 5 on 5 or 10 on 10. i know the lfg tool doesnt work all that well, but what if they created something like a waiting room. and players of the same level could sign up, then go into a area/instance just for them for , capture the flag , or claim castles or towers, or kill some king/queen/boss. maybe it could be champion point scaled. like how many you have. if you have 100 your with this group who also have 100. then it would have to rely on skills since you have all the same amount of CP?


that would be small scale. maybe there would be no lag in there as well since its a small condensed situation.
apparently big situations are too big too handle. not trying to make this ANOTHER game, but i always found that type of play fun. more group/ team oriented. i think guild wars 1 had something called areans or randoms. 4 on 4. it was pretty fun.

just my thoughts .