How to get the VR 15 Recipes/Materials if you don't have IC?

Kammakazi · September 2015

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Contraptions · September 2015

Buy the recipes from other players.

Decon v15/16 drops from vanilla dungeons for your mats. Or get them from your hirelings. Or buy them from other players.

UrQuan · September 2015

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Shunravi · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

This ^.

scale up a dungeon and loot EVERYTHING. you will probably find stuff...

Kammakazi · September 2015

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Also, do Cyrodiil delve chests give you VR15 stuff?

UrQuan · September 2015

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Dru1076 · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

I figured you'd be able to pinch V15-16 gear off racks... As stolen armour and weapons have always scaled with your toon. Does that scaling stop at V14?

Kammakazi · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

I figured you'd be able to pinch V15-16 gear off racks... As stolen armour and weapons have always scaled with your toon. Does that scaling stop at V14?

I only get VR 14 stuff, but I only assume that because I don't have IC bought.

I also have all 10 points put into Blacksmithing/Woodworking/Clothier.

milkbox · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

I figured you'd be able to pinch V15-16 gear off racks... As stolen armour and weapons have always scaled with your toon. Does that scaling stop at V14?

Even the stuff on the racks in IC seem to be V14 (as a V16 player). The good news for recipes and water is that they drop pretty freely in the IC bases- shouldn't be long until they're not too pricey to buy.

UrQuan · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Shimmer · September 2015

guild stores

Dru1076 · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

I am a little surprised that you have to group or pvp to get v16 gear. I had no idea...looks like you ARE forced to go into IC after all. Zos seem pretty keen to stop solo casual gamers from enjoying this game.

Taleof2Cities · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

I am a little surprised that you have to group or pvp to get v16 gear. I had no idea...looks like you ARE forced to go into IC after all. Zos seem pretty keen to stop solo casual gamers from enjoying this game.

Not surprised here since ZOS has come out and said that IC is mainly PvP content.

UrQuan · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Kammakazi · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Don't you need 120 or so material to craft one piece?

And you get 1 reward per Dolmen, and per reward deconstructed, you get only one material?

So I need 120 Dolmens for one piece?

Dru1076 · September 2015

Taleof2Cities wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

I am a little surprised that you have to group or pvp to get v16 gear. I had no idea...looks like you ARE forced to go into IC after all. Zos seem pretty keen to stop solo casual gamers from enjoying this game.

Not surprised here since ZOS has come out and said that IC is mainly PvP content.

Okay. My point went over your head. What surprises me is that the v16 gear is unavailable to solo gamers who don't enjoy pvp, unless they buy it.

UrQuan · September 2015

Kammakazi wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Don't you need 120 or so material to craft one piece?

And you get 1 reward per Dolmen, and per reward deconstructed, you get only one material?

So I need 120 Dolmens for one piece?

Do group dungeons. You'll get tons more mats from them than from dolmens. If you're anti-grouping and you don't want to get the DLC then you have nobody to blame but yourself for having more limited options - especially since you don't need new gear anyway.

Dru1076 · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Don't you need 120 or so material to craft one piece?

And you get 1 reward per Dolmen, and per reward deconstructed, you get only one material?

So I need 120 Dolmens for one piece?

Do group dungeons. You'll get tons more mats from them than from dolmens. If you're anti-grouping and you don't want to get the DLC then you have nobody to blame but yourself for having more limited options - especially since you don't need new gear anyway.

Its Zos that's limiting options. Nobody to blame but yourself? Personally, I LOVE being in a group. I think the point is you DONT have a choice. There should be a way to get these things without having to do things you don't enjoy, or being forced to buy a part of the game you don't want.

Anyway...you have successfully convinced me not to resub until Orsinium, @UrQuan .

UrQuan · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Don't you need 120 or so material to craft one piece?

And you get 1 reward per Dolmen, and per reward deconstructed, you get only one material?

So I need 120 Dolmens for one piece?

Do group dungeons. You'll get tons more mats from them than from dolmens. If you're anti-grouping and you don't want to get the DLC then you have nobody to blame but yourself for having more limited options - especially since you don't need new gear anyway.

Its Zos that's limiting options. Nobody to blame but yourself? Personally, I LOVE being in a group. I think the point is you DONT have a choice. There should be a way to get these things without having to do things you don't enjoy, or being forced to buy a part of the game you don't want.

Anyway...you have successfully convinced me not to resub until Orsinium, @UrQuan .

You've already got multiple options for getting the mats. How many more do you need? Should every single thing that you might possibly want to do in the game give you VR15-16 crafting mats? Do you want to get them while fishing too?

Bottom line: if you're doing VR15-16 content, you can get VR15-16 mats from it. If you're not, you can't. How exactly is that not fair?

Dru1076 · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Don't you need 120 or so material to craft one piece?

And you get 1 reward per Dolmen, and per reward deconstructed, you get only one material?

So I need 120 Dolmens for one piece?

Do group dungeons. You'll get tons more mats from them than from dolmens. If you're anti-grouping and you don't want to get the DLC then you have nobody to blame but yourself for having more limited options - especially since you don't need new gear anyway.

Its Zos that's limiting options. Nobody to blame but yourself? Personally, I LOVE being in a group. I think the point is you DONT have a choice. There should be a way to get these things without having to do things you don't enjoy, or being forced to buy a part of the game you don't want.

Anyway...you have successfully convinced me not to resub until Orsinium, @UrQuan .

You've already got multiple options for getting the mats. How many more do you need? Should every single thing that you might possibly want to do in the game give you VR15-16 crafting mats? Do you want to get them while fishing too?

Bottom line: if you're doing VR15-16 content, you can get VR15-16 mats from it. If you're not, you can't. How exactly is that not fair?

You already convinced me the game isn't worth subbing for again yet, so what more do you want from me? I'm just saying I'd like it if there were places to farm these mats outside PVP and without grouping up. That's all. Pretty straightforward really. There will be places to this when Orsinium comes, so ai just have to wait a little longer is all. I can live with that.

UrQuan · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

If you only play solo and you don't go to IC, then you're not doing any content that's scaled to VR15-16, so why does it matter? You can afford to wait for Orsinium, because you don't have any need for gear that's better than VR14. And actually, for that matter I'm still using VR14 gear on my VR16 character. I'll upgrade eventually, but I'm not feeling much need for it yet (even though I am playing in IC and doing dungeons scaled to VR16).

Yeah....but when Orsinium cones out, how much you want to bet there will be another vet rank increase? I'd rather not wait until then to get v16....

http://play2win.tv/shows/no-veteran-rank-level-cap-increase-orsinium/

Dru1076 wrote: »

and v16's come out to play in Cyrodil....

And if you're worried about facing VR16s in Cyrodiil you can get VR15-16 gear in Cyrodiil, so you're fine. Go farm some dolmens.

Dru1076 wrote: »

Are really asking why someone would want to level up? I think ill give you the benefit of the doubt there...

How in the hell did you jump to that conclusion? You're going to level up to VR16 pretty much no matter what you do. Unless you're doing VR16 content though (which would be group dungeons scaled to VR16 or PVP) you don't have any need for gear that's higher than VR14. And like I said, I am doing VR16 content in VR14 gear, and I don't feel like I really need anything higher. The only reason I even want to eventually get VR16 stuff is because of the "oh shiny!" effect. I don't need it, and I can afford to wait for it. If someone doing VR16 content can easily afford to wait to get VR16 gear, then people who aren't even doing anything scaled higher than VR14 definitely don't need anything higher than VR14 gear.

Don't you need 120 or so material to craft one piece?

And you get 1 reward per Dolmen, and per reward deconstructed, you get only one material?

So I need 120 Dolmens for one piece?

Do group dungeons. You'll get tons more mats from them than from dolmens. If you're anti-grouping and you don't want to get the DLC then you have nobody to blame but yourself for having more limited options - especially since you don't need new gear anyway.

Its Zos that's limiting options. Nobody to blame but yourself? Personally, I LOVE being in a group. I think the point is you DONT have a choice. There should be a way to get these things without having to do things you don't enjoy, or being forced to buy a part of the game you don't want.

Anyway...you have successfully convinced me not to resub until Orsinium, @UrQuan .

You've already got multiple options for getting the mats. How many more do you need? Should every single thing that you might possibly want to do in the game give you VR15-16 crafting mats? Do you want to get them while fishing too?

Bottom line: if you're doing VR15-16 content, you can get VR15-16 mats from it. If you're not, you can't. How exactly is that not fair?

You already convinced me the game isn't worth subbing for again yet, so what more do you want from me? I'm just saying I'd like it if there were places to farm these mats outside PVP and without grouping up. That's all. Pretty straightforward really. There will be places to this when Orsinium comes, so ai just have to wait a little longer is all. I can live with that.

Without there being any areas scaled to VR15-16 aside from those things, though, it's kind of ridiculous to want to be able to farm those mats outside of PVP and without grouping... Pretty straightforward really.

And actually, you know what? There are a couple of pieces of solo content where you could get it to scale to VR15-16 and farm those mats: the Fighters Guild and Mages Guild quests, or the Vampire or Werewolf quests.

Dru1076 · September 2015

@UrQuan, if you can level up to v16 anywhere then the gear should be available anywhere. And in Cyrodil you can come up against v16's with gear. That's why its important.

Anyway... Time we both moved on now.

UrQuan · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

@UrQuan, if you can level up to v16 anywhere them the great should be available anywhere. And in Cyrodil you can come up saying v16's with gear. That's why its important.

Anyway... Time we both moved on now.

That doesn't make any sense. You can level up to VR14 in your Cadwell's Silver zones, but you can't get mats for VR14 gear there. Aside from getting mats from hirelings it has always been the case that you can only get mats for gear of a particular level in an area scaled to that level.

Dru1076 · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

@UrQuan, if you can level up to v16 anywhere them the great should be available anywhere. And in Cyrodil you can come up saying v16's with gear. That's why its important.

Anyway... Time we both moved on now.

That doesn't make any sense. You can level up to VR14 in your Cadwell's Silver zones, but you can't get mats for VR14 gear there. Aside from getting mats from hirelings it has always been the case that you can only get mats for gear of a particular level in an area scaled to that level.

Ah... But this not true. Stolen weapons and armour scaled with you. I always ended up two levels ahead of my zone by the time I did everything, and that's how I kept my gear up to my level in the past.

AlnilamE · September 2015

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

I figured you'd be able to pinch V15-16 gear off racks... As stolen armour and weapons have always scaled with your toon. Does that scaling stop at V14?

Walk into vet Spindle, loot containers at entrance. Go out. Walk into vet FG, loot backpack. Go out. I can't remember but I think CoA also has containers near the entrance.

Elephant42 · September 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

-snip-Bottom line: if you're doing VR15-16 content, you can get VR15-16 mats from it. If you're not, you can't. How exactly is that not fair?

Hmmm, whether it's fair or not is subjective and depends a lot on your point of view.

What is absolutely unarguable though is that it is a major change to the way crafting has been done up till the release of the IC patch. You have _always_ been able to obtain crafting mats at any level regardless of your character or craft skill level. The only requirement was to be able to travel to the appropriately levelled harvesting nodes.

The whole paradigm for V15+ crafting has had a sudden, drastic change and it doesn't sit well with some (perhaps many) players, me included.

Pyr0xyrecuprotite · September 2015

Recipes: - afaik these are only available in IC (at vr15), so you have to buy them from others if you don't have the DLC.
Mats:
- for wood/clothing/blacksmithing, you have to decon vr15/16 gear, or buy from others. Vr15/16 gear is only available in IC OR from scaled up group dungeons (usually only bosses), OR from Undaunted reward chests, OR from PvP "rewards for the worthy" mails.
- for Alchemy, solvents are only found in IC, so you will need to buy from others.
- for Enchanting, you can buy potency runestones in IC using TV stones, or decon glyphs found only in IC (I think). This means you have to buy them from other people if you don't have the DLC.

Czeri · September 2015

While most crafting mats seem obtainable in scaled group dungeons, there is no way to get v15 solvent or runes outside of IC. And we still don't know when Orsinum will even come out. So yes, PvErs are currently screwed.

Mysticman · September 2015

AlnilamE wrote: »

Dru1076 wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

Damn so there's no luck for me on the recipes then?

Well,

UrQuan wrote: »

Dungeons scaled to VR15-16.

Mmmm...i guess that's cool for farming with a group, but what about solo?

I figured you'd be able to pinch V15-16 gear off racks... As stolen armour and weapons have always scaled with your toon. Does that scaling stop at V14?

Walk into vet Spindle, loot containers at entrance. Go out. Walk into vet FG, loot backpack. Go out. I can't remember but I think CoA also has containers near the entrance.

So I only have to do this around 120 to 150 times to get enough mats to craft one piece of armor

that's taking mat framing to a whole new level.