Dunmer for the fire or high elf for the magicka ?
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Making a Dps DK with destruction/resto staff and was wondering what to focus on, dunmer for the fire passives or high elf for the magicka.
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✭I'd still say it's Dunmer for pure dps. The extra recovery on altmer is nice though. Unless using force pulse, the +4% to ice and lighting is just a waste and when you have the CPs the recovery is not really an issue.
I think DKs are averaging at ~36-38k max mag so the difference (4%) in the max mag is ~1500 pts. I don't think that will be as high as 7% increase to spell damage on fire.
These tests were performed for 1.6 in which Dunmer edged out by ~2.25% dps, but I haven't seen it calculated for 1.7 yet. These are just my assumptions atm.Edited by Cuyler on September 16, 2015 3:40PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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iseko✭✭✭✭Dunmer has a 9%max magicka increase... With undaunted passives and decent gear u can get magicja up to 45k while still having 21k hp. DK has a lot of fire based attacks and if ure gonna use fire destro... Then its a no brainer imho0 -
Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
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By decent you mean v16? like top end gear? and like 400CP? 45k is not your average. It's where you'll be when fully geared at v16....anyways it's all % modifiers so it will scale appropriately depending on whatever your max mag is. I just used those numbers as an example. 45k would be ~1800 max mag.Dunmer has a 9%max magicka increase... With undaunted passives and decent gear u can get magicja up to 45k while still having 21k hp. DK has a lot of fire based attacks and if ure gonna use fire destro... Then its a no brainer imho
Edited by Cuyler on September 16, 2015 4:28PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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By decent you mean v16? like top end gear? and like 400CP? 45k is not your average. It's where you'll be when fully geared at v16....anyways it's all % modifiers so it will scale appropriately depending on whatever your max mag is. I just used those numbers as an example. 45k would be ~1800 max mag.Dunmer has a 9%max magicka increase... With undaunted passives and decent gear u can get magicja up to 45k while still having 21k hp. DK has a lot of fire based attacks and if ure gonna use fire destro... Then its a no brainer imho
Hmm v15 will get you a long way... Still the 9% magicka increase... If you got 30K magicka. The undaunted and 6% undaunted will get you 5K extra magicka. But yea, the 45k is based on v16 legendary gear.
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Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
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By decent you mean v16? like top end gear? and like 400CP? 45k is not your average. It's where you'll be when fully geared at v16....anyways it's all % modifiers so it will scale appropriately depending on whatever your max mag is. I just used those numbers as an example. 45k would be ~1800 max mag.Dunmer has a 9%max magicka increase... With undaunted passives and decent gear u can get magicja up to 45k while still having 21k hp. DK has a lot of fire based attacks and if ure gonna use fire destro... Then its a no brainer imho
Hmm v15 will get you a long way... Still the 9% magicka increase... If you got 30K magicka. The undaunted and 6% undaunted will get you 5K extra magicka. But yea, the 45k is based on v16 legendary gear.
I was referring to the difference in max mag between the two:
altmer: 12%
Dunmer: 9%
difference = 3% or ~2k max mag @ 45k
Im not in game so I can't double check these values and it appears there aren't any updated info on any websites. I've seen both 12% and 10% for altmer and both 6% and 9% for Dunmer so I'll go ahead and say the difference on average could be between 1-4% until I can confirm.
The undaunted passive is the same for everyone so not sure how that applies here.
Edited by Cuyler on September 16, 2015 5:34PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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✭✭✭✭All I can say is prepare to reroll after the next major patch/upgradeTenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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By decent you mean v16? like top end gear? and like 400CP? 45k is not your average. It's where you'll be when fully geared at v16....anyways it's all % modifiers so it will scale appropriately depending on whatever your max mag is. I just used those numbers as an example. 45k would be ~1800 max mag.Dunmer has a 9%max magicka increase... With undaunted passives and decent gear u can get magicja up to 45k while still having 21k hp. DK has a lot of fire based attacks and if ure gonna use fire destro... Then its a no brainer imho
Hmm v15 will get you a long way... Still the 9% magicka increase... If you got 30K magicka. The undaunted and 6% undaunted will get you 5K extra magicka. But yea, the 45k is based on v16 legendary gear.
I was referring to the difference in max mag between the two:
altmer: 12%
Dunmer: 9%
difference = 3% or ~2k max mag @ 45k
Im not in game so I can't double check these values and it appears there aren't any updated info on any websites. I've seen both 12% and 10% for altmer and both 6% and 9% for Dunmer so I'll go ahead and say the difference on average could be between 1-4% until I can confirm.
The undaunted passive is the same for everyone so not sure how that applies here.
I don't know where your getting the 12% but the difference is 1%. 10-9=1PS4 | NA | l3igTyme
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Cuyler✭✭✭✭✭
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By decent you mean v16? like top end gear? and like 400CP? 45k is not your average. It's where you'll be when fully geared at v16....anyways it's all % modifiers so it will scale appropriately depending on whatever your max mag is. I just used those numbers as an example. 45k would be ~1800 max mag.Dunmer has a 9%max magicka increase... With undaunted passives and decent gear u can get magicja up to 45k while still having 21k hp. DK has a lot of fire based attacks and if ure gonna use fire destro... Then its a no brainer imho
Hmm v15 will get you a long way... Still the 9% magicka increase... If you got 30K magicka. The undaunted and 6% undaunted will get you 5K extra magicka. But yea, the 45k is based on v16 legendary gear.
I was referring to the difference in max mag between the two:
altmer: 12%
Dunmer: 9%
difference = 3% or ~2k max mag @ 45k
Im not in game so I can't double check these values and it appears there aren't any updated info on any websites. I've seen both 12% and 10% for altmer and both 6% and 9% for Dunmer so I'll go ahead and say the difference on average could be between 1-4% until I can confirm.
The undaunted passive is the same for everyone so not sure how that applies here.
I don't know where your getting the 12% but the difference is 1%. 10-9=1
Please see bolded above. Thanks for confirming with the current in game values....the math is easy obv.
So to recap, 1% max magicka difference is negligible (~450) making the dunmer the clear win as a DK.Edited by Cuyler on September 16, 2015 6:39PMGuild: STACK n BURN (gm) PC - NA
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