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Ishammael
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Two weeks, now: Put your new v16 pants on, turn in your saved up trophies for 2 pieces per chest to complete your agility or willpower sets.

Let's go back to Cyrodiil. Its better there.




Side Rant: IC is the biggest wasted potential for Alliance War I have ever seen. The zones are f'ing awesome, bosses are neat. Why can I not enter the dungeon on one side, fight though, then pop out deep in enemy territory on Cyrodiil map? How come I can't control districts and contribute to the Alliance War score? Why aren't there new "scrolls" to capture inside the IC, which I have to run out to my keeps? Why are there no transitus connections to zones that I capture in IC? Why do players get instant, brain-dead, respawn in the IC? Sweeper bosses are cool -- but why dont they hunt down the huge groups and ignore single players, adding to the danger of running through IC to get somewhere?
  • Etaniel
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Two weeks, now: Put your new v16 pants on, turn in your saved up trophies for 2 pieces per chest to complete your agility or willpower sets.

    Let's go back to Cyrodiil. Its better there.




    Side Rant: IC is the biggest wasted potential for Alliance War I have ever seen. The zones are f'ing awesome, bosses are neat. Why can I not enter the dungeon on one side, fight though, then pop out deep in enemy territory on Cyrodiil map? How come I can't control districts and contribute to the Alliance War score? Why aren't there new "scrolls" to capture inside the IC, which I have to run out to my keeps? Why are there no transitus connections to zones that I capture in IC? Why do players get instant, brain-dead, respawn in the IC? Sweeper bosses are cool -- but why dont they hunt down the huge groups and ignore single players, adding to the danger of running through IC to get somewhere?

    Completely agree. First, I was super disapointed when I went in the sewers through the EP side and discovered that I had been ported to the DC safe zone. And even better, if you want to go out of IC to defend a keep, your only option is to get back to home base in Cyro :/

    As for districts contributing to the global score, that wouldn't work because it's a DLC and people who didn't buy it would be at a disadvantage. There should be a local score just for IC though, that would encourage PvP in there.


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  • Lava_Croft
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    Our guild raid visited 3 different campaigns yesterday and all of them had a basically deserted Cyrodiil. Even more surprising was the fact that even though certain factions had a locked population, actually finding any members of said factions turned out to be quite the challenge.

    And yes, Cracked Wood City is a huge pile of wasted potential.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on September 14, 2015 2:31PM
  • Maulkin
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    OP, you are dreaming. It's just not going to happen until gated access to IC comes in, to all campaigns. Making forum threads telling players to do so won't change anything.

    First they removed completely the commercial value of AP from the game and replaced it with TV stones and trophies which can only be gathered in IC.
    Then they made v16 gear possible to craft only by farming in IC. Dungeons still drop mostly v15 gear and the RofW drop rate has been reduced so you can't rely on either of those to farm mats.
    Then they made the new v16 jewelry sets automatic choice as they are the only v16 jewelry in the game. And you can only try your RNG luck by farming trophies in IC.
    Then they made the districts to be like a death match, where you can die and spawn there right away and re-enter the fight. No time penalty like the horse simulator. No TV stone penalty if you went prepared to die and respawn (i.e. with no TV stones)
    And finally they made IC access free for all, not something you have to fight for.

    So, go to Cyrodiil for what? It's horribly skewed at the moment and while it stays as such, there's 0 incentive to be there, apart form like once a week for nostalgia's sake.
    Edited by Maulkin on September 14, 2015 3:17PM
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  • Lorkhan
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    i cant take the loading screen any more, man.... it's been a pain
  • Ezareth
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    I've been enjoying the PvP I find in the Sewers of IC for the most part. Killing EP zergs camping your sewer spawn and getting stone donations from them all is my favorite.

    I did some memorial district PvP last night though and I killed the same guy literally 50 times in the space of an hour. He'd just charge straight into me and die over and over again. That got old, especially since he was worth 0 AP and 0 exp and didn't kill me once.
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    Looks like the shine is already wearing off the IC, I am staring to see more people in Cyrodiil proper at certain times of the day, I know I do not go in to IC as much as I did the first week.
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    OP, you are dreaming. It's just not going to happen until gated access to IC comes in, to all campaigns. Making forum threads telling players to do so won't change anything.

    First they removed completely the commercial value of AP from the game and replaced it with TV stones and trophies which can only be gathered in IC.
    Then they made v16 gear possible to craft only by farming in IC. Dungeons still drop mostly v15 gear and the RofW drop rate has been reduced so you can't rely on either of those to farm mats.
    Then they made the new v16 jewelry sets automatic choice as they are the only v16 jewelry in the game. And you can only try your RNG luck by farming trophies in IC.
    Then they made the districts to be like a death match where you can die and spawn there fight away and re-enter the fight. No time penalty like the horse simulator. No TV stone penalty if you went prepared to die and respawn (i.e. with no CP)
    And finally they made IC access free for all, not something you have to fight for.

    So, go to Cyrodiil for what? It's horribly skewed at the moment and while it stays as such, there's 0 incentive to be there, apart form like once a week for nostalgia's sake.

    This. This is disgusting :(
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  • Ghostbane
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    Why are you in IC?

    Gotta get all that sweet ass gear bro to pvp!

    (later) Got all your gear yet?

    Yup, got everything I wanted, but I'm just focusing on getting the CP up a bit. You know, for the pvp's!

    (more later) You coming to pvp yet?

    Yeah... I will be tomorrow, I need to make some more gold man. I spent it all with upgrades, trophies, repairs etc

    Wheeler, get your ass up here and pvp, we are a keep away from crowning Firor

    Its so beautiful down here... and its.. so bright up there.. and so wide. So much space.. I don't know man. I like it down here.. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DAMN YOU
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    I have only a single vault key so far. Everyone turned carebear or what?
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  • Ezareth
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    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Why are you in IC?

    Gotta get all that sweet ass gear bro to pvp!

    (later) Got all your gear yet?

    Yup, got everything I wanted, but I'm just focusing on getting the CP up a bit. You know, for the pvp's!

    (more later) You coming to pvp yet?

    Yeah... I will be tomorrow, I need to make some more gold man. I spent it all with upgrades, trophies, repairs etc

    Wheeler, get your ass up here and pvp, we are a keep away from crowning Firor

    Its so beautiful down here... and its.. so bright up there.. and so wide. So much space.. I don't know man. I like it down here.. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DAMN YOU

    As long as you can continue making 4K stones(50K gold), 50 crafting mats (25-30K gold), 2 CPs, and 20-30 trophies(5-150K gold) an hour while grinding (plus AP and bonus stones from open world PvP) why would you go up top and lose gold to gain AP doing PvDoor or PvZerg?



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  • Ghostbane
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Why are you in IC?

    Gotta get all that sweet ass gear bro to pvp!

    (later) Got all your gear yet?

    Yup, got everything I wanted, but I'm just focusing on getting the CP up a bit. You know, for the pvp's!

    (more later) You coming to pvp yet?

    Yeah... I will be tomorrow, I need to make some more gold man. I spent it all with upgrades, trophies, repairs etc

    Wheeler, get your ass up here and pvp, we are a keep away from crowning Firor

    Its so beautiful down here... and its.. so bright up there.. and so wide. So much space.. I don't know man. I like it down here.. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DAMN YOU

    As long as you can continue making 4K stones(50K gold), 50 crafting mats (25-30K gold), 2 CPs, and 20-30 trophies(5-150K gold) an hour while grinding (plus AP and bonus stones from open world PvP) why would you go up top and lose gold to gain AP doing PvDoor or PvZerg?



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  • Maulkin
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    Ezareth wrote: »

    As long as you can continue making 4K stones(50K gold), 50 crafting mats (25-30K gold), 2 CPs, and 20-30 trophies(5-150K gold) an hour while grinding (plus AP and bonus stones from open world PvP) why would you go up top and lose gold to gain AP doing PvDoor or PvZerg?

    QFT

    The only time i have spent in Cyrodiil since the launch of 2.1, was to ride to the sewer entrance. If all the above is not a good enough reason for you, then the fact that everyone else is there forces your hand.

    We need gated access. Pronto
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  • Ezareth
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    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Why are you in IC?

    Gotta get all that sweet ass gear bro to pvp!

    (later) Got all your gear yet?

    Yup, got everything I wanted, but I'm just focusing on getting the CP up a bit. You know, for the pvp's!

    (more later) You coming to pvp yet?

    Yeah... I will be tomorrow, I need to make some more gold man. I spent it all with upgrades, trophies, repairs etc

    Wheeler, get your ass up here and pvp, we are a keep away from crowning Firor

    Its so beautiful down here... and its.. so bright up there.. and so wide. So much space.. I don't know man. I like it down here.. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DAMN YOU

    As long as you can continue making 4K stones(50K gold), 50 crafting mats (25-30K gold), 2 CPs, and 20-30 trophies(5-150K gold) an hour while grinding (plus AP and bonus stones from open world PvP) why would you go up top and lose gold to gain AP doing PvDoor or PvZerg?



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  • Pchela
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    Just finished up my v16 gear sets, got my needed jewelry and I've stocked all the Tears and Flowers to make my potions. I am ready for Cyrodiil again. Tired of ICS.
  • RinaldoGandolphi
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Why are you in IC?

    Gotta get all that sweet ass gear bro to pvp!

    (later) Got all your gear yet?

    Yup, got everything I wanted, but I'm just focusing on getting the CP up a bit. You know, for the pvp's!

    (more later) You coming to pvp yet?

    Yeah... I will be tomorrow, I need to make some more gold man. I spent it all with upgrades, trophies, repairs etc

    Wheeler, get your ass up here and pvp, we are a keep away from crowning Firor

    Its so beautiful down here... and its.. so bright up there.. and so wide. So much space.. I don't know man. I like it down here.. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DAMN YOU

    As long as you can continue making 4K stones(50K gold), 50 crafting mats (25-30K gold), 2 CPs, and 20-30 trophies(5-150K gold) an hour while grinding (plus AP and bonus stones from open world PvP) why would you go up top and lose gold to gain AP doing PvDoor or PvZerg?



    The sad thing is, running the 4 man dungeons now is even better then the IPC. I picked up a Vet 16 Ring of Willpower, a Vet 16 Brands of the Imperium Shoulders, and a few Vet 16 Undaunted Shoulder pieces in the matter of less then two days...in the last few days i have seen a lot of good drops, it beats grinding trophies, and im in the process of filling to the brim with VR16 matts and i never paid one TV stone for them. Trash in the 4 man's now drop VR15-16 decon trash out the wazoo.

    I still go in the city from time to time, but i do long for PVP to come back to Cyrodiil and they need to add some new sets to the vendors in Cyrodiil that cost AP to encourage folks to PVP as well.
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  • Ishammael
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    OP, you are dreaming. It's just not going to happen until gated access to IC comes in, to all campaigns. Making forum threads telling players to do so won't change anything.

    First they removed completely the commercial value of AP from the game and replaced it with TV stones and trophies which can only be gathered in IC.
    Then they made v16 gear possible to craft only by farming in IC. Dungeons still drop mostly v15 gear and the RofW drop rate has been reduced so you can't rely on either of those to farm mats.
    Then they made the new v16 jewelry sets automatic choice as they are the only v16 jewelry in the game. And you can only try your RNG luck by farming trophies in IC.
    Then they made the districts to be like a death match, where you can die and spawn there right away and re-enter the fight. No time penalty like the horse simulator. No TV stone penalty if you went prepared to die and respawn (i.e. with no TV stones)
    And finally they made IC access free for all, not something you have to fight for.

    So, go to Cyrodiil for what? It's horribly skewed at the moment and while it stays as such, there's 0 incentive to be there, apart form like once a week for nostalgia's sake.

    You are, of course, correct. Which is why I made this thread to begin with.
    Etaniel wrote: »
    Ishammael wrote: »
    Two weeks, now: Put your new v16 pants on, turn in your saved up trophies for 2 pieces per chest to complete your agility or willpower sets.

    Let's go back to Cyrodiil. Its better there.




    Side Rant: IC is the biggest wasted potential for Alliance War I have ever seen. The zones are f'ing awesome, bosses are neat. Why can I not enter the dungeon on one side, fight though, then pop out deep in enemy territory on Cyrodiil map? How come I can't control districts and contribute to the Alliance War score? Why aren't there new "scrolls" to capture inside the IC, which I have to run out to my keeps? Why are there no transitus connections to zones that I capture in IC? Why do players get instant, brain-dead, respawn in the IC? Sweeper bosses are cool -- but why dont they hunt down the huge groups and ignore single players, adding to the danger of running through IC to get somewhere?

    Completely agree. First, I was super disapointed when I went in the sewers through the EP side and discovered that I had been ported to the DC safe zone. And even better, if you want to go out of IC to defend a keep, your only option is to get back to home base in Cyro :/

    As for districts contributing to the global score, that wouldn't work because it's a DLC and people who didn't buy it would be at a disadvantage. There should be a local score just for IC though, that would encourage PvP in there.


    Thanks! Also, I'm not sure we have ever disagreed in these forums.


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    I have only a single vault key so far. Everyone turned carebear or what?

    Yes, my whole guild did. :'(
    Ezareth wrote: »
    Ghostbane wrote: »
    Why are you in IC?

    Gotta get all that sweet ass gear bro to pvp!

    (later) Got all your gear yet?

    Yup, got everything I wanted, but I'm just focusing on getting the CP up a bit. You know, for the pvp's!

    (more later) You coming to pvp yet?

    Yeah... I will be tomorrow, I need to make some more gold man. I spent it all with upgrades, trophies, repairs etc

    Wheeler, get your ass up here and pvp, we are a keep away from crowning Firor

    Its so beautiful down here... and its.. so bright up there.. and so wide. So much space.. I don't know man. I like it down here.. YOU CAN'T MAKE ME DAMN YOU

    As long as you can continue making 4K stones(50K gold), 50 crafting mats (25-30K gold), 2 CPs, and 20-30 trophies(5-150K gold) an hour while grinding (plus AP and bonus stones from open world PvP) why would you go up top and lose gold to gain AP doing PvDoor or PvZerg?



    Yup, which is why I made thread.
  • Celas_Dranacea
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    As a casual I definitely have become an IC sewer rat - It's crazy for me to stop farming crafting mats and tv stones in the sewers to instead do Cyrodil pvp or anything else for that matter, given that's it's going to take me 4x as long to acquire my v16 gear compared to some of my guild mates who play a lot more.

    So if anyone asks, I'm RPing as a guy who got lost in the sewers until such a time as I've farmed 750 rubedo leather....

    Look forward to joining the Cyrodil war again
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  • GRxKnight
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    Yeah it's mostly the grind for the ability to craft v16 mats that's causing a hold up...in a few weeks to a month I'd expect to see ic only during the day and cyrodil at night.
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    Sigh it's just hype since it's the first DLC just give it a another week or 2.
  • Yonkit
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    Screw you all. I'm farming for another week or two or three or four or five. I have so much grinding to do and it makes me happy.
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  • Zavus
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    I haven't finished my v16 sets yet though.. but yeah I've had much more fun fighting in open land cyro the other day on Azura then I've had in the sewers. Sewers was fun the first few days, but then it just got boring. Cyro is so much more fun, just wish I had more people to fight. Can't wait for gated access if that ever becomes a thing.
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  • Farorin
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    I'll come back to the alliance war when the devs give me a reason to. As things are now the rewards are too infrequent, and not good enough for me to bother, and AP is next to worthless now as well.
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    Farorin wrote: »
    I'll come back to the alliance war when the devs give me a reason to. As things are now the rewards are too infrequent, and not good enough for me to bother, and AP is next to worthless now as well.

    But.... Tbags????
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    Screw you all. I'm farming for another week or two or three or four or five. I have so much grinding to do and it makes me happy.

    Official confirmariin: #1 casual NA.

    As a casual I definitely have become an IC sewer rat - It's crazy for me to stop farming crafting mats and tv stones in the sewers to instead do Cyrodil pvp or anything else for that matter, given that's it's going to take me 4x as long to acquire my v16 gear compared to some of my guild mates who play a lot more.

    So if anyone asks, I'm RPing as a guy who got lost in the sewers until such a time as I've farmed 750 rubedo leather....

    Look forward to joining the Cyrodil war again

    F that sht. The pve players will do it for you, then force the prices down by competing with each other. Just give it time.
  • DezIsDead
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    I'm grinding a broke ass magical dk so I can finally play a class everyone agrees isn't OP. I'll stop grinding and PvP when people decide some gyro fights aware worth their time. That or ill finish this grind and quit the game lol. Wonder which will occur?
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  • Ishammael
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    DezIsDead wrote: »
    I'm grinding a broke ass magical dk so I can finally play a class everyone agrees isn't OP. I'll stop grinding and PvP when people decide some gyro fights aware worth their time. That or ill finish this grind and quit the game lol. Wonder which will occur?

    Can I come to the gyro fight? I love gyros. Delicious.
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    DezIsDead wrote: »
    I'm grinding a broke ass magical dk so I can finally play a class everyone agrees isn't OP. I'll stop grinding and PvP when people decide some gyro fights aware worth their time. That or ill finish this grind and quit the game lol. Wonder which will occur?

    Can I come to the gyro fight? I love gyros. Delicious.

    Lawl, sorry won't let me edit on my phone :( I'm a fan of lamb gyros myself.
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    I've had my full legendary v16 glass arcane prismatic etc set finished for almost a week now with 2.5mil gold profit on top but it almost feels like there is no point fighting in cyrodiil when all of AD is still in imperial city. Was locked AD pop earlier and like my 6 man group was the only AD on the map... They need restricted IC access now, not in 2 months time. -.-
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    I really don't have the motivation to grind IC anymore.
    The new gear just isn't worth the effort.
    We are grinding our tails off for unimaginative gear that is more restrictive and just plain BORING. It's basically just a stats increase that everyone has to do to stay competitive.

    But the WORST part is that all of the previous theorycrafing potential has been removed from the game with the intentional removal of all the fun sets.

    RIP ravager, Morag Tong, Hawks eye, Vengence leach, Potentiates, basically every mixed jewelry set that let you itemize and min/max cleverly.


    I absolutely HATE the Agility/Endurance/Willpower sets. Why are they the only approved v16 jewelry?

    Hey ZOS, you know who else liked to control the free choices of the people by controlling rings?

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    #ZOS=MORDOR
    #RINGGATE2015
    #BRINGBACKRINGCHOICE
    #MYPRECIOUS
    Edited by Yolokin_Swagonborn on September 15, 2015 3:34AM
  • Farorin
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    Ishammael wrote: »
    Farorin wrote: »
    I'll come back to the alliance war when the devs give me a reason to. As things are now the rewards are too infrequent, and not good enough for me to bother, and AP is next to worthless now as well.

    But.... Tbags????

    I can still Tbag people in IC ;)
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