What happened to Solo pvp?

Jprip88b16_ESO · September 2015

First this might not be the right place in the forum but F it.. all i really wana know is what ever happened to solo's in cyrodill? after patch 1.5 i have barely seen any solo's, its been and still is like this..you see 1 dude attack him and 10 others pop out and kill you, i mean do everyone really need 10 people in their back pocket to pvp now?

some people like to pvp solo but there aint anything we can do in cyrodill, so i hope ZOS will make it so its more appeling to solo aswell, or make something for us to do in pvp aswell insted of zergs only

newtinmpls · September 2015

Well..... I notice that you are on EU so it may be different.

Prior to the last patch PvP was mostly just frustrating for me as I'd die in a second or two while I was panicking and trying to figure out what button to push.

Now with things going more slowly, I have time to react. So when I'm in IC, and see someone of "My" color involved in fighting someone of some other color - I happily jump in, knowing that I won't just die instantly.

I'm not saying I always accomplish much, but at least I can give it a shot now. Maybe a lot of folks are having that reaction.

Rune_Relic · September 2015

Numbers win (damage heals scale with numbers).
Safety in numbers.

Theres a few threads where people are trying to address that.
Its the norm for people in PVP to hit LFG and before you know it its stack central.
If people joined a massive group and got crippled in the process they would be less inclined to do so and more inclined to join a small group or solo.

You cant expect the public to go solo voluntarily unless you make the alternatives less desirable.

Jprip88b16_ESO · September 2015

yes thats what i mean, i think ZOS needs to do it more inclined to solo or run smaller man, insted of just start a AOE train and bumm rush true it all spamming steel tornado...

i saw ALOT of people who played solo back then at 1.5 befor champion points and getting 1-2 shot... after that all the solos ive seen i can count on both hands, i know i cant make people solo but at the same time alot of people wana solo but if there is no point to do it, most people dont.. so thats where ZOS needs to step up and make it enjoyable for both player types

Lord_Hev · September 2015

It got zerged.

ZOS wants us all to zerg or die.

Digiman · September 2015

Cyrodiil is a group battlefield for PvP. Your solo PvP to me means you just want to gank people.

WillhelmBlack · September 2015

It's gone, along with the fun.

Alucardo · September 2015

It's 3 alliances against each other in war, not one hero from each alliance. If you want to duel, then organise something with someone from a different alliance.

WillhelmBlack · September 2015

Play the way you want to play.

melodeath · September 2015

yes its play how you want to play but when you stack up in a zerg have everyone in in the raid slot 1 or 2 desired aoe abbility's than the fun is gone unless the opponent faction is doing the same..
but guess what happends then... oh right.. an endless aoe spam fest that result in the whole server lagging while those 2 raids just stand there spamming meteors and so on while no healthbars are moving.
wich for me is a good reason to stop with all the glueing on eachother and make small scale/solo more desireable.

a few examples would be..
-the person with the killing blow gets all the ap.
-resources/keeps give ap to only a certain amount of players including the first ones that got there.
-quests for wich you have to kill a certain amount of players while NOT beeing in a grp.

chevalierknight · September 2015

Im a solo nb there for your point is moot

Jprip88b16_ESO · September 2015

Well nice to see Melodeath gets what i mean.. and no im not looking to gank people i dont play a Nightblade and when im in IC or Cyrodill i dont spend my hole time goving around in sneak.. dont care for it.. and Solo Pvp have nothing to do with duel.. i dont mind fighting and someone else jumps in on the fight.. duel is just tradeing AP and rank and im not up for that, what im looking for is where u just run like everyone else true the world and have a chance to find a solo or a duo and fight em.. and not a mindless 50+ player train spamming 1-2 AOE skills while they just run over u

Force-Siphon · September 2015

Some of us still solo roam!

Amica · September 2015

Agreed, i miss the nail biting 1v1s.

OdinForge · September 2015

Force-Siphon wrote: »

Some of us still solo roam!

Yesterday i went from Farragut to Ash and had some nice 1v1 / 1v3 with some wolves. No deer sadly, those are gone.

Solo roaming started dying even before this patch (likely due to people losing faith in ZOS, population loss etc), but now it's just a joke.

Turelus · September 2015

As someone who gets blasted a lot for "zerging" I will say this.

When you have a PVP guild with almost 100 members, people want to group up. When you have a full raid and one of your members comes under attack and a 1v1 starts you have to choose to either let a 1v1 happen and hold up 23 other people while that person has his fun, or go kill the enemy and keep moving to the objective/big fights.

If you're looking for arranged 1v1 fights try guilds like Arena where you can set up small fights and duels, Cyrodiil is about as close to sandbox as we're going to get in ESO though so it's always going to be harder to find the kind of fights you want.

Lava_Croft · September 2015

The rumors concerning @Turelus' zerging are greatly exaggerated.

Turelus · September 2015

Lava_Croft wrote: »

The rumors concerning @Turelus' zerging are greatly exaggerated.

Correct. I believe are never more than twelve in a group.

melodeath · September 2015

as mentioned before, yes you can group up but the bigger your group the less damage you get from the aoe cap. thats 1 issue.

the second issue is when there are groups that basicly only have people with a bunch of aoe slotted wich makes them just run over everyone whilst doing nothing more than spamming aoe...

zergs shouldnt be forced out of the game but i believe that small scale/solo should be alot more rewarding and supported by zeni by giving for example pvp quests that cant be completed while in a raid

twistedmonk · September 2015

RIP 1-shotting people in PvP - which is a very good thing.

This patch was probably the best to date as far as PvP gameplay.

Asmael · September 2015

Solo PvP is taking a break, having some holidays.

Don't worry, he'll be back Soon™

Yakidafi · September 2015

I have been running solo and small group all through 1.6 and still do. I'm also on EU

I do not understand what have stopped you from doing it @Jprip88b16_ESO

cheers

Jprip88b16_ESO · September 2015

i semi stoppede playing ESO since there is nothing for me to do in pvp, i enjoy soloing / duoing but since there is no point in doing that in ESO, and u get nothing out of it.. i cant see a reason to keep playing the game, what i think is sad.. just no fun in keeping fighting 10+ guys as a solo person or a duo.. since ZOS dont give people a reason to solo or not to join the zergs

cschwingeb14_ESO · September 2015

In IC, loot mechanics greatly, hugely favor zerging. Same way that alliance war abilities favor the same thing with 12 man target caps

If they nerfed trophy drops in IC and changed it so that people had to buy them with TV stones, them you would see a lot less farming zergs

Forestd16b14_ESO · September 2015

Never happened that wasn't supported by the "solo player" abusing exploits and never will till ZOS adds a freaking PvP arena.

apostate9 · September 2015

WillhelmBlack wrote: »

Play the way you want to play.

Sure. You can play with your pants on your head, if you want to. It doesn't guarantee success. It is a game about massive armies colliding. Just sayin'.

apostate9 · September 2015

cschwingeb14_ESO wrote: »

In IC, loot mechanics greatly, hugely favor zerging. Same way that alliance war abilities favor the same thing with 12 man target caps

If they nerfed trophy drops in IC and changed it so that people had to buy them with TV stones, them you would see a lot less farming zergs

No. In point of fact they categorically do not. I am not sure why you would even think that.

MrGrimey · September 2015

It's really sad, everybody running around in one big blog because they're too afraid to actually have an evenly matched fight, not to mention it's also the most effective way to farm TV stones. The low damage also encourages zerging, 1v1s can sometimes go on forever, they usually last long enough to call for help from 20+ nearby allies

Guess all the PVE players found a way to enjoy imperial city after all

Soulac · September 2015

Solo PvP is still possible, but don't expect many 1v2 or 3.
It's like fighting a hydra.. You kill one and two another "spawn" next to you.
Couple of days ago I fought a group of three and in the end I died against roughly 10 enemies.
People in ic and sewers are scared to lose their precious stones, so they're willed to zerg. As example one guy yesterday: "LF HUGE GRP"
I can't imagine that stuff like this actually makes fun..

Thanks to the buggy Phoenix set and short ways from the spawn to the battle, solo PvP is even harder.
Yesterday I had a fight against two Templars, a tanky DK and a healing Springs spamming sorc. I had to kill the sorc three times before he actually died and one of the Templar twice, just to see him running back in a minute.
One of the longest fights I had since the patch.. And not that much fun.