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Zenimax, Please Do Not Implement Vampire and Werewolf Bites in the Crown Store

UntameableAngel
It's already ridiculous that players are able to bite other players as frequently as they can.

If the Cooldown was once a month, as opposed to once a week, you could have had another Meta game for players to strive to achieve in game (by doing content).


Then, players wouldn't have an issue with lots of players being either a Vampire or Werewolf in end game PvP - as well as lots of the remaining players running fire / poison weapons while spamming Fighter's Guild Abilities (countering the playstyle).

Adding in Bites through the Crown Store, will just make the situation even worse..


Also, while you are working on (or thinking about) adding in a way to change your race through the Crown Store - can you make a way in game to turn your character into an Imperial?

You're really riding the line of pay to win, by allowing it to exist by buying it - but not a way to obtain it ingame..

The racial passives Imperials have, make it this way for many playstyles.
  • UntameableAngel
    By the way, here's a link for the new Crown Store items coming soon - for those of you wondering where I got the information..

    http://elderscrolls.net/2015/08/14/14326-tes-online-budushhee-magazina-tovarov-za-krony-patch-2-1-1/?from=eso-forum
  • DaveMoeDee
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    ZOS, please do add bites to the store.

    I am shocked that people would spend money on a bite with guilds full of people giving out free bites and mobs also giving bites. If this leads to more revenue, awesome.
  • daemonios
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    ZOS, please do add bites to the store.

    I am shocked that people would spend money on a bite with guilds full of people giving out free bites and mobs also giving bites. If this leads to more revenue, awesome.

    Not everyone joins a guild, or is even very social in the game. For those players, the only recourse is finding a wild blood fiend / werewolf when the time happens to be right. On top of that, ZOS made it possible for players to grief-kill all spawns in a matter of minutes and try to extort money for bites.

    Putting the bites in the crown store is one of the worst moves yet by ZOS. It's an assumption that their game mechanics are not satisfying players' needs, so much so that they would pay real cash to get it over with. While I don't have much sympathy for whoever pays for these things (they end up validating the microtransactions model that I personally loathe), ZOS are mostly to blame for this.
  • a.skelton92
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    Are you actually f'ing kidding? This can't be for real. That is just stupid, why would they even think that was a good idea? -.-"
  • Kobaal
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    Why does it bother some fol;ks if they make it easier for other to become WW or Vamp?

    Has absolutley no impact to you or your gameplay.
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  • myrrrorb14_ESO
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    OMG they are going to make so much money with this!

    There is really no need for it, since its so easy to get anyway. But people are always begging for a bite and willing to pay big for it. Maybe this will slow down the scammers.

    The morphs look pretty cool and the skeletal mounts. Just can not bring myself to pay real money for superficial things.
  • harrlockk616
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    It's all about the all mighty DOLLLAR to give there OVERLORDS the stockholder
  • Scyantific
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    This would have been a problem when WW and Vamp were better (not needing a slotted skill/ulti for the bonuses). Now they're basically a joke so this will just be for cosmetic/RP reasons.

    Full steam ahead I say, let the people monopolizing the bites market cry all day.
  • Delajah
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    you dont need to be social or in a guild to get a bite. Man they cost 5k and you cannot tell me you dont have 5k. And by the source of your information, it looks more like just an halloween event which is just temporary but i could be wrong too
    Edited by Delajah on September 10, 2015 7:22PM
  • Kuroinu
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    Take it easy, it's most likely only around for a limited time and that'll be around Halloween. At least that's how I see it.

    I'm surprised no one has put 2 and 2 together yet for this one, lol. Seems so obvious to me that it'd be a limited time Halloween purchase.
    Edited by Kuroinu on September 10, 2015 7:23PM
  • Selique
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    Waiting around for spawns in an out of the way location hardly counts as "content"....
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  • Stikato
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    Out of all things added to the store already, this ranks among the more insignificant.
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  • MissBizz
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    You know those were datamined...

    As well, one the PTS templates were given these items so we could make our character a vampire or werewolf conveniently.

    Maybe it was just for PTS?
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  • Tholian1
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    I'm for anything that keeps the bites free or as cheap as possible between players.

    @UntameableAngel , I disagree with a month long cool down. That would only drive the price of the bites up and encourage more scamming with players losing even larger amounts of gold to the scammers.
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  • Rioht
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    I care more about the fact that there will be people running around with flaming pumpkin heads and skeleton horses....
  • NewBlacksmurf
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    While this may impact you and others directly, its a convenience thing.

    -I buy EXP scrolls vs. buying EXP pots....cause its more convenient for me and use gold for other things.
    Not sure I follow why this is bad for players or ZOS considering the IC impacts and use of in game gold for mats, etc.
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  • Acrolas
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    It's all about the all mighty DOLLLAR to give there OVERLORDS the stockholder

    ZeniMax is not a publicly traded company.

    They don't have stockholders. They have private equity holders.
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  • rb2001
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    This is actually perhaps a good thing.

    I don't use it, or want to be vamp/WW, but this just means the chats won't be filled with selling or buying this anymore, and it gets rid of scammers.

    This has benefits for everyone.
  • purple-magicb16_ESO
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    I think everything, including end game should be available in the crown store. Just let me pay whatever then I'll get all the achievements without actually having to play. Not a bad idea.

    ...and I can lol you for spending months on these achievements!
    Edited by purple-magicb16_ESO on September 10, 2015 7:41PM
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  • Callous2208
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    Eh this doesn't really bother me. It would actually be silly to purchase a bite in the crown store. I know a ton of people who would do it for free, or at a cost so low the shop option is most likely less that ideal. What I wanna know is when are you pasty bloodsuckers gonna be kos in towns at later stages. My flaming greatsword of doom eagerly waits to dawnbreak yo face.
  • Elsonso
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    MissBizz wrote: »
    You know those were datamined...

    As well, one the PTS templates were given these items so we could make our character a vampire or werewolf conveniently.

    Maybe it was just for PTS?

    It is necessary on PTS to have some way of getting WW and Vamp for template characters.

    For all we know, it was for PTS only. However, glowing approval of this idea, or an ambitious accountant, could get these into the Live store permanently.
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  • KingArturia
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    Also, while you are working on (or thinking about) adding in a way to change your race through the Crown Store - can you make a way in game to turn your character into an Imperial?

    You're really riding the line of pay to win, by allowing it to exist by buying it - but not a way to obtain it ingame..

    The racial passives Imperials have, make it this way for many playstyles.

    Yeah, no thanks. I bought Imperial Edition for a reason, to play Imperial. If you want to play one so badly too, buy it aswell. One time purchase, forever, to play the race you want. It would be idiotic to make it free, and quite unfair to the players who had already bought it.

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  • Elijah_Crow
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    I think this is a great idea if done as a halloween promotion for a limited time.

    Just please keep this to a once a year release.
  • Chieve
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    I think this is more so to go with the theme of Halloween then to literally let people get it...

    It will probably be removed after Halloween

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  • Hope499
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    DaveMoeDee wrote: »
    ZOS, please do add bites to the store.

    I am shocked that people would spend money on a bite with guilds full of people giving out free bites and mobs also giving bites. If this leads to more revenue, awesome.
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  • Cillion3117
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    Bites are very easy to get. Once a week I will just go to the vampire shrine and bite a random person standing there. I don't say or ask anything. I just bite and leave. It feels more like the vampire way.
  • JKorr
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    It's all about the all mighty DOLLLAR to give there OVERLORDS the stockholder

    ZeniMax is not a publicly traded company.

    They don't have stockholders. They have private equity holders.

    :shhhh: Stop bringing facts into this.

    If they put bites in the crown store, then the douch....assha...um..."fun loving gold stealing players" won't be able to scam anyone out of their gold again. And waiting around to insta-kill all the spawns they can won't make a difference either.

    How will the "enterprising" players make money if they can't scam and force people who want to play as a ww or vamp pay for it?

    I have a ww in each faction, and every week I give away bites on the pc/NA server. Eventually it will work out that way for the consoles. But until then a lot of the console players provide evidence for why I won't play on a console.
  • UntameableAngel
    I am not going to quote anyone, since I'm pretty busy nowadays and don't have time to forum warrior against trolls, "i want everything handed to me" gamers, and others that just have a different opinion then me on any specific issue (which is absolutely fine)..

    I will say this (try to be open minded and look at it from a different perspective if you disagree with my original stance).


    Player A through Z are playing the game.

    Throughout their experience, 3 of those players (Players A, G, and X) get bitten from Vampires. Player A and G went out of their way to get a bite, and Player X just got lucky and happened across it. Player X did not do the follow up quest, since he did not realize what was going on. Therefore 2/26 players turned into Vampires.

    Throughout the same experience, 5 others received a Werewolf bite. Players D, K, and P went out of their way to get a bite, and Players O and S just happened to come across it. Player O did not do the follow up quest, since she did not want to become a Werewolf. Player S tried to do the follow up quest but failed and ran out of time (the disease wore off). Therefore, 3/26 players turned into Werewolves.

    So now, 5/26 players are either a Vampire or Werewolf. They level it, and in turn receive the Passive to bite other players. The problem with this, is the relatively short cooldown. Over time, anyone who wants to become a Vampire or Werewolf can do so pretty easily, even without doing the content in game. And yes, this is what content is.

    Eventually 20/26 players are now either a Vampire or Werewolf, most obtaining it without doing much to receive it. Everyone now has to either be one (to compete in PvP), or run fire / poison while spamming Fighter's Guild Abilities.

    This becomes a problem for those who actually did the content the hard way and got the rare bite (since now lots of players are running counter builds to deal with the fact that most players are Vampires or Werewolves from obtaining it so easily).

    This also becomes a problem for most PvPers to now base their template on most players being one of the two (since it's so easy to obtain).


    Adding bites to the Crown Store, makes the issue even worse.

    It should not happen, and if anything, players being able to bite other players should have a longer cooldown.

    A trade window could be implemented specifically for bites, which would be a proper fix to the scams that come with the current mechanics.
  • Nestor
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    Acrolas wrote: »
    It's all about the all mighty DOLLLAR to give there OVERLORDS the stockholder

    ZeniMax is not a publicly traded company.

    They don't have stockholders. They have private equity holders.

    Corporations are Corporations, they all have Stockholders, even if it is a few or one and Stockholders want maximized returns. They can even sell their shares to someone else if they want to*, they just can't list them for anyone to buy at random on an exchange.



    *barring any agreements such as Rights of Refusal or similar
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  • Rampeal
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    Is getting bites really that hard? On both of my toons I just stood at the shrine for like 5mins and got my bite. Ez Pz
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