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Jumping nerfed while stealthed?

IKilled007
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Is this as intended or a bug?
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  • AssaultLemming
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    It's really annoying I can tell you that. If it's intentional it's another stupid stealth Nerf to something no-one was complaining about
  • ryanmjmcevoy_ESO
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    Really really hope its a bug. I cant imagine anyone complained about this. Makes stealthing unnecessarily difficult, especially for less mobile classes like DK and Temp
  • danno8
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    Agreed, pretty annoying.

    Don't recall hearing anything about this needing a change.
  • bunnytrix
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    Was just about to make a thread about this myself when saw this one.
    I too would really like to know if this is a bug or an intentional change that they decided did not need to go into the patch notes. It makes stealthy game play way more difficult and I just cannot see a reason for it.
    My Khajiit nightblade loves to play a stealthy game, often avoiding fights if he can sneak past. This makes that impossible.
    For example, and this happens often...you want to go up some stairs, but there are 3 enemies blocking them. So..you stealth to the side and jump up over the side where it is still low. Avoid the enemies and continue on. I know we all do it. Now with this ridiculous nerf to jumping in stealth we can't do this. I tried this last night many times and I was "what the hell is wrong with me why can't I jump places I have always jumped?" So I spent some time trying to jump onto tiny rocks, over tiny logs.....what the hell! It's like my super agile Khajiit has suddenly caught some nasty illness that prevents him from jumping higher than 20 centimeters.

    @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_RichLambert could we please get some clarification if this is in fact a bug, or an intended change ? And, if intended, what is the reason, and why was it not in the patch notes ?
  • MissBizz
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    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/2207192#Comment_2207192

    Jessica said they'll take a look into it, so I'm guessing it's a bug.
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    Thank you @MissBizz :)
  • Gilvoth
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    same issue here
  • Sureshawt
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    Notice same thing here. While it is annoying I'm glad I'm not alone. I have to think this is a bug as I didn't see anything in patch notes.
  • ADarklore
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    This would be particularly annoying if it effected those with Night's Silence crafted set or Vampire passive... as they both allow running while in stealth- and it'd be dense if this also caused them to not be able to jump obstacles while using their 'bonus' ability.
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  • bunnytrix
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    No update from ZoS for 5 days on this. If it was a bug you would think they could at least confirm it.
    Starting to have a bad feeling that this was intended for some reason. Maybe there's a low wall somewhere in IC that they didn't want people to stealth over...
    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno can we please get some confirmation if this is in fact a bug, or intended. Thanks.
    Edited by bunnytrix on September 5, 2015 2:30PM
  • IKilled007
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    Update: It's not everywhere. Some districts in IC I can jump as normal in stealth. Others I can't.
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  • bunnytrix
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    Tested on 6 different characters in many many zones not been able to jump in stealth like we could before the update. @IKilled007 can you specify where exactly you can jump normally in stealth ?
  • bunnytrix
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    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno

    Can we please get some information if this is a bug that will be fixed with today's maintenance, or if it is an intended change?
    When you jump while crouched in stealth you hit an invisible ceiling which stops you from jumping to the usual height. It is making stealth gameplay unnecessarily difficult, and it is affecting everything you do in stealth, including justice shenanigans.
  • kadar
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    I was about to make a lengthy and hilarious satire post in the PVP forums about how I'm so glad they finally nerfed jumping (YEAH RIGHT. SO OP). Then I saw this thread. So I didn't make a new one.

    I've been rolling around on my NB and haven't had a single full-height jump. In a word this change (if it is a change and not a bug like we're all hoping) is lame. Un-fun. Jumping is...fun. Why in the world would you allow us to hop. I can jump higher IRL. I may as well quit playing ESO to go outside and play.

    ZOS, fix bug pl0x. Don't make go run around in nature for a full-height jump. I need this.
  • bunnytrix
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    So...nothing in today's patch notes...not even an acknowledgement of this issue which basically affects everyone playing the game.
    So it leads us to assume that this was an intended change that was purposely left out of 1.7 patch notes, probably to avoid having to explain it and avoid the uproar of all the stealthy players. I am pretty sure if it was a bug there would be some kind of follow up in this thread or the other one that @MissBizz linked above.
    I mean..it's a pretty massive sweeping change to a core game play mechanic, that was pushed to live without a word from the devs. Is this another blanket nerf to sidetrack some slight problem somewhere in IC ? Another unreasonable fun-killing nerf that basically destroys a lot of stealth gameplay. It's just such a little thing that I can't believe someone looked at it and thought it needed to be nerfed.
    Of course, if you don't play stealthily or crouch much you may not even notice, but to those of us who love the stealthy sneaky kind of game, this is huge!

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

    Can we please get an acknowledgement, a confirmation, anything about this change ?
  • MissBizz
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    bunnytrix wrote: »
    So...nothing in today's patch notes...not even an acknowledgement of this issue which basically affects everyone playing the game.
    So it leads us to assume that this was an intended change that was purposely left out of 1.7 patch notes, probably to avoid having to explain it and avoid the uproar of all the stealthy players. I am pretty sure if it was a bug there would be some kind of follow up in this thread or the other one that @MissBizz linked above.
    I mean..it's a pretty massive sweeping change to a core game play mechanic, that was pushed to live without a word from the devs. Is this another blanket nerf to sidetrack some slight problem somewhere in IC ? Another unreasonable fun-killing nerf that basically destroys a lot of stealth gameplay. It's just such a little thing that I can't believe someone looked at it and thought it needed to be nerfed.
    Of course, if you don't play stealthily or crouch much you may not even notice, but to those of us who love the stealthy sneaky kind of game, this is huge!

    @ZOS_JessicaFolsom @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

    Can we please get an acknowledgement, a confirmation, anything about this change ?

    Yeah @bunnytrix since they didn't mention it was meant to be that way, I thought it was a bug.. but maybe not :(
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  • ZOS_RichLambert
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    It's a bug.... specifically with snares. (stealth is also a snare) We're working on a fix.
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  • Joy_Division
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    It's a bug.... specifically with snares. (stealth is also a snare) We're working on a fix.

    TY for letting us know.
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    It's a bug.... specifically with snares. (stealth is also a snare) We're working on a fix.

    That also includes the fact you dodge much shorter while snared?

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  • Shunravi
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    It's a bug.... specifically with snares. (stealth is also a snare) We're working on a fix.

    Oooh. Good to know, thanks. Glad you are looking into snares.
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  • bunnytrix
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    It's a bug.... specifically with snares. (stealth is also a snare) We're working on a fix.

    Thank you...that's a relief :wink:

  • Rune_Relic
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    It's a bug.... specifically with snares. (stealth is also a snare) We're working on a fix.

    Thanks for the heads up.
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