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Rapid Maneuver seems to be broken.

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I've already bug-reported this in-game, but I figured the extra exposure couldn't hurt.

Rapid Maneuver (don't have it morphed on my new character yet) doesn't seem to be applying the speed buff to my mount. It works perfectly fine on foot, however.

Thanks for a great expansion and keep up the good work!

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  • Mojmir
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    The bug I have is both retreating and rapid popping up when I cast it
  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    I've been seeing this as well - Rapid Maneuver speeds up non-mounted movement, but not mounted movement. Just filed a Bug report myself.
  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    Apparently this was reported on the PTS during testing as well, suggesting it was limited to PvE zones, but I just tested in Cyrodiil and it happened there as well.

    I suspect it's related to another report of an issue where Shift isn't speeding up the mount - I wouldn't be surprised if that's a mis-interpretation of the same issue, actually.

    Some people were suggesting it was a maximum speed issue because they had Mount Speed training maxed out, but for all 7 of the characters I'm seeing this on, I don't have *any* points in Mount Speed. (They're all in bag space, which is nearly maxed out for all of them…) Which makes the lack of speed difference stand out all the more.

    Others were suggesting it only happens on pre-veteran characters -- I have no vet chars so I can't confirm that one.

    Few people are reporting their client -- I'm running the Mac client currently, and it happens in all zones with all 7 of my characters which have the skill.

    I've made a video demonstrating the problem:

    https://youtu.be/P2WideyH7rc

    In this video I'm running a Level 11 character with ONLY Rapid Maneuver slotted, and the location is in Cyrodiil in the Ebonheart Pact base. I'm walking / riding in circles around the Transitus Shrine where you appear in the zone. I'm not pressing shift at all during this. You can accurately judge speed by counting seconds as I pass the four staircases at each point of the compass and clearly see that while walking speed is improved by the expected 40%, mounted speed is completely unchanged. (And since I have no training in Mount Speed, is actually slower than the walking speed with Rapid Maneuver up…) You can also see that when I dismount with Rapid Maneuver up, I still get the faster walking speed.
  • Woolenthreads
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    I opened up a new thread because the search function finds too many people talking about fighting when referring to "Rapid Maneuver" :) and I wasn't able to find a relevant thread like this one. Someone pointed this one out on the one I created.

    My two Craglorn based characters can't measure a failure of RM because I never used it for it's full time there in a run. My <L20 characters all have long runs doing writs where the loss of the effect is noticeably shorter.

    In Daggerfall riding from the consumables Writ board to the drop-off you used to be able to reach the stairs down to the port before recasting, now, you just reach the pig pen.
    Edited by Woolenthreads on September 6, 2015 10:23AM
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  • Suntzu1414
    i'm on mac.

    have same problem


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  • Merlight
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    I've just got Rapid Maneuver to rank II and it started working for me while mounted. At rank I it didn't increase my riding speed at all (not once since IC launch, and not even on PTS, but sometimes I got the buff from someone else and it did work. So it might be a bug in rank I only.
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  • JamilaRaj
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    On the flip side, unmorphed Maneuver rank I does not break stealth on cast and, more importantly, restores jumping in stealth to pre nerf height!
  • Emma_Overload
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    Whoa whoa whoa.... are you guys saying that mount speed is hardcapped so that speed boosts don't affect it if you maxed your training? What is the point of paying for the training if your speed is the same as some guy that just popped Rapid Maneuver?
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  • Woolenthreads
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    Whoa whoa whoa.... are you guys saying that mount speed is hardcapped so that speed boosts don't affect it if you maxed your training? What is the point of paying for the training if your speed is the same as some guy that just popped Rapid Maneuver?

    No. It has been noted here as a report and a complaint that "Rapid Maneuver" currently has a bug that prevents it working while mounted for unmorphed L1 Skill.
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  • SirAndy
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    It has been noted here as a report and a complaint that "Rapid Maneuver" currently has a bug that prevents it working while mounted for unmorphed L1 Skill.

    Nope, i have rapid maneuver fully morphed and maxed and i still have the same problem where it doesn't apply the speed boost when mounted.

    Same problem on pre VR and VR characters.
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  • Woolenthreads
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    It has been noted here as a report and a complaint that "Rapid Maneuver" currently has a bug that prevents it working while mounted for unmorphed L1 Skill.

    Nope, i have rapid maneuver fully morphed and maxed and i still have the same problem where it doesn't apply the speed boost when mounted.

    Same problem on pre VR and VR characters.
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    Excellent! That makes it randomly distributed to affect some people and not others i.e. there's no work around :). That being said, I can't actually tell if it affects my VR characters or not, the runs my VR's made prior to the intro of IC were never long enough to notice when the effect wore off unlike my lowest levelled characters.
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  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    I can confirm the latest patch doesn't fix it, also. I've decided to leave it slotted on my most active character to see if it starts working when I reach Rank II, but it's slow going. (Might get there tonight…)

    Meanwhile, while playing on another character which doesn't have Rapid Maneuver at all, I *did* get hit by someone else triggering it, and got the increase in mount speed, so it's not a client or machine issue. (Sadly, I have no way of knowing what Rank and/or Morph they were using…)
  • Woolenthreads
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    I can confirm the latest patch doesn't fix it, also. I've decided to leave it slotted on my most active character to see if it starts working when I reach Rank II, but it's slow going. (Might get there tonight…)

    Meanwhile, while playing on another character which doesn't have Rapid Maneuver at all, I *did* get hit by someone else triggering it, and got the increase in mount speed, so it's not a client or machine issue. (Sadly, I have no way of knowing what Rank and/or Morph they were using…)

    It wasn't mentioned in the patch notes as being attended to either. We just have to wait.
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  • gard
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    I'd just like to add add my name to the list of people who are affected by this.Rapid Maneuver has absolutely 0 effect while mounted for me.

    My wife complains that I never listen to her. (Or something like that.)
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  • Morbash
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    Just hopping in here to confirm this bug is still occurring on my VR1 Templar. I have the unmorphed version of Rapid Maneuvers at Rank I. I ran without holding the sprint key, popped Rapid Maneuvers and I observed no changes in my riding speed. It does however speed up my character's running speed when I'm not mounted.

    If I remember, I'll try to hop back in here and provide an update as to what happens once the skill levels up to Rank II.

    Oddly enough, this isn't affecting my other toons btw.
    Edited by Morbash on September 11, 2015 8:45AM
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  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    I can confirm that upon reaching Rank II on one of my characters (lvl 47 Deathknight) last night, it suddenly started working consistently on my mount.

    It would be really nice if someone at ZOS acknowledged this is a known issue - I've now seen reports of this in multiple threads, and filed a /bug report, and even made the above video to demonstrate it, but nobody has even commented on any of them. Do I need to do a summoning ritual? @ZOS_GinaBruno ? @ZOS_MollyH ?


    @SirAndy: Are you morphed to Retreating Maneuver or Charging Maneuver? I found an old thread for an apparently identical issue affecting Retreating Maneuver back during the 1.2.3 patch which was fixed in 1.2.4. (Thread here with response by @ZOS_JessicaFolsom - See, I knew I could tag at least one more… :grin: ) If you're using Retreating Maneuver, It's possible the bug was re-introduced and additionally affects Rapid Maneuver Rank I this time around.


    Meanwhile… anyone seeing this issue should make sure they /bug it to make sure tech support has it on their radar. Also, if there is ANYONE out there who has Rapid Maneuver at Rank I who has it working properly on their mount, please chime in here, so we can see if that, at least, is or isn't a consistent symptom.
  • Rosveen
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    @SirAndy: Are you morphed to Retreating Maneuver or Charging Maneuver? I found an old thread for an apparently identical issue affecting Retreating Maneuver back during the 1.2.3 patch which was fixed in 1.2.4. (Thread here with response by @ZOS_JessicaFolsom - See, I knew I could tag at least one more… :grin: ) If you're using Retreating Maneuver, It's possible the bug was re-introduced and additionally affects Rapid Maneuver Rank I this time around.
    I'm not experiencing this bug with Retreating Maneuver. I was just going to ask if SirAndy morphed to Charging. :)
  • SirAndy
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    @stevenbennett_ESO @Rosveen

    My morph is Charging Maneuver ...
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  • stevenbennett_ESO
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    Hmmn. Leaves a lot of uncertainty then. I'm going to leave RM slotted as much as possible on my lvl 47 over the weekend to see if it still works as I reach higher ranks, although given my time available, I suspect I won't reach the point where I can morph it to Charging Maneuver until next week sometime. Will fill in details as I get more.
  • Brightxdawn
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    RM is NOT working in cyrodiil. It works off and on but for the most part will not work so I have to get off the horse and run instead. Hope this gets fixed.
  • HalloweenWeed
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    I was just in Cyrodiil, sometimes it worked, sometimes it didn't. I have Charging Maneuver III. First it worked, I got killed, rezed at a keep, then it didn't work. Got killed again, rezed at same keep, then it worked again.
  • Morbash
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    DeusAres wrote: »
    Just hopping in here to confirm this bug is still occurring on my VR1 Templar. I have the unmorphed version of Rapid Maneuvers at Rank I. I ran without holding the sprint key, popped Rapid Maneuvers and I observed no changes in my riding speed. It does however speed up my character's running speed when I'm not mounted.

    If I remember, I'll try to hop back in here and provide an update as to what happens once the skill levels up to Rank II.

    Oddly enough, this isn't affecting my other toons btw.

    After reaching Rank II, the bug no longer occurs. I receive a notable speed boost after activating the skill.
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  • Woolenthreads
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    Well that's apparently fixed with the latest update. Now if they can stop us falling from the sky when we login I think a lot of people will be much happier....
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  • Mr-jo-handsome
    Same here
    Vr16 Nightblade
    VR13 Dragon knight
    Vr1 Templar
    10 Sorcerer
    10 Nightblade
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