Wrecking Blow

Anazasi · September 2015

I'm sorry to point this out but hey guess what any ability that is spammed over and over again that can not be blocked or interrupted is over powered. In PVP This is the one ability that I die to constantly. Players with NO skill who think they are good because they can spam 1 ability over and over and win is wrong. I don't think anyone will disagree with the definition of OP abilities and If the developers are not willing to fix this ability and bring it into balance like the other abilities then its not worth playing against others who play with using this mechanic.

Yes I know you can side step it, yeah I know you can block it but there is no immunity given once it hits you and you manage to get up. They simply just do it over and over or at present they drop ice comet on you and you can not roll out because you are slowed 70%. This needs to be fixed sooner rather than later ZOS because I am tired of the 1 ability spammers.

If you want to fix the CC war that is running rampant through out ZOS land you need to increase the CC immunity buff to 3 or 5 seconds. This would stop all the CC spamming monkeys and bring some balance back to the game where players can recover.

BrassRazoo · September 2015

Don't forget the added OP fall damage if on the slightest of inclines when getting "wrecked!"

Lefty_Lucy · September 2015

I have always said the same thing.

ANY ability that people default to spamming is overpowered. That's the reason it's spammed.

Wrecking Blow should still be bashable.

Wycks · September 2015

It's really dumbed down the game when you come across players spamming one ability 5-10x and winning.

REALLY.

Sharee · September 2015

Don't let the WB spammer get initiative. If you just go defensive and allow him to chain the blows as he pleases, you are going to lose. Dodge the blow(roll through him), then unload on him before he can wind up another. When he does, dodge it again and hit him again. He cannot block while charging it up, so your hits are going to hurt. Then mix in a cloak or a bolt or dragon leap or a spear(to allow the dodge penalty to clear), anything to interrupt his sequence. Then dodge the next WB again and hit him again. Alternate dodges with other defensive moves but always keep hitting him.He needs to be under constant pressure, thinking about how to survive your attack instead of freely focusing on his wrecking blows.

If he manages to connect one of the blows, CC break while you still are flying through air and immediately follow the CC break with a roll. If you have enough HP to eat a WB or two, use those 8 seconds of CC immunity to pressure him even harder. Again, someone chaining wrecking blows can not block at the same time, so your attacks are gonna hurt and push him into defensive.

Alucardo · September 2015

The winning build

Johngo0036 · September 2015

Yeah i agree 100%.... i also keep getting hit by this one skill coz any idiot can spam it, kinda like radiant destruction except i can interrupt that.. lol....

Vraneon · September 2015

1) wrecking blow can be interrupted

2) it can be easily outrun, blocked or dodged

3) if you can't deal with it, just use it yourself

And no, I don't think it's op at all. I think there are much stronger instant cast abilities, which can't be even dodged.

JDar · September 2015

Vraneon wrote: »

1) wrecking blow can be interrupted

2) it can be easily outrun, blocked or dodged

3) if you can't deal with it, just use it yourself

And no, I don't think it's op at all. I think there are much stronger instant cast abilities, which can't be even dodged.

Like what.

olsborg · September 2015

Any cast time, melee or not, should be bashable, it promotes skill over mindless spam.

Vraneon · September 2015

Lava Whip, Dragon Leap, Mass hysteria, Ambush, Streak, Proximity Detonation (although it takes time to explode and needs a good timing), etc.

I think one or two abilities are dodgeable now, according to patch notes, but don't remember which ones.

MrGrimey · September 2015

The problem isn't wrecking blow, the problem is that they lowered the damage so damn much that wrecking blow is the only thing that does decent damage

Kupoking · September 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

I'm sorry to point this out but hey guess what any ability that is spammed over and over again that can not be blocked or interrupted is over powered. In PVP This is the one ability that I die to constantly. Players with NO skill who think they are good because they can spam 1 ability over and over and win is wrong. I don't think anyone will disagree with the definition of OP abilities and If the developers are not willing to fix this ability and bring it into balance like the other abilities then its not worth playing against others who play with using this mechanic.

Yes I know you can side step it, yeah I know you can block it but there is no immunity given once it hits you and you manage to get up. They simply just do it over and over or at present they drop ice comet on you and you can not roll out because you are slowed 70%. This needs to be fixed sooner rather than later ZOS because I am tired of the 1 ability spammers.

If you want to fix the CC war that is running rampant through out ZOS land you need to increase the CC immunity buff to 3 or 5 seconds. This would stop all the CC spamming monkeys and bring some balance back to the game where players can recover.

If it would be over powered, I wouldnt use jabs instead on my templar.

leepalmer95 · September 2015

Vraneon wrote: »

1) wrecking blow can be interrupted

2) it can be easily outrun, blocked or dodged

3) if you can't deal with it, just use it yourself

And no, I don't think it's op at all. I think there are much stronger instant cast abilities, which can't be even dodged.

The only way to dodge wb is to dodge through a person, dodge is no longer a viable defence now as most builds don't have to stamina to dodge twice.

You can block it but it'll drain a lot of stamina they'll have a next one charged with 20% more dmg.

Jumping on the 1 button spam bandwagon isn't an option.

Also it can't be interrupted unless they changed that in 1.7

Zorgon_The_Revenged · September 2015

I hate steel tornado spam trains more.

Kupoking · September 2015

Anazasi wrote: »

I'm sorry to point this out but hey guess what any ability that is spammed over and over again that can not be blocked or interrupted is over powered. In PVP This is the one ability that I die to constantly. Players with NO skill who think they are good because they can spam 1 ability over and over and win is wrong. I don't think anyone will disagree with the definition of OP abilities and If the developers are not willing to fix this ability and bring it into balance like the other abilities then its not worth playing against others who play with using this mechanic.

Yes I know you can side step it, yeah I know you can block it but there is no immunity given once it hits you and you manage to get up. They simply just do it over and over or at present they drop ice comet on you and you can not roll out because you are slowed 70%. This needs to be fixed sooner rather than later ZOS because I am tired of the 1 ability spammers.

If you want to fix the CC war that is running rampant through out ZOS land you need to increase the CC immunity buff to 3 or 5 seconds. This would stop all the CC spamming monkeys and bring some balance back to the game where players can recover.

If it would be over powered, I wouldnt use jabs instead on my templar.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Vraneon wrote: »

1) wrecking blow can be interrupted

2) it can be easily outrun, blocked or dodged

3) if you can't deal with it, just use it yourself

And no, I don't think it's op at all. I think there are much stronger instant cast abilities, which can't be even dodged.

The only way to dodge wb is to dodge through a person, dodge is no longer a viable defence now as most builds don't have to stamina to dodge twice.

You can block it but it'll drain a lot of stamina they'll have a next one charged with 20% more dmg.

Jumping on the 1 button spam bandwagon isn't an option.

Also it can't be interrupted unless they changed that in 1.7

You could also learn to dodge at the right time or cc during animation But eh I guess callng for nerfs is the easy way out.

leepalmer95 · September 2015

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I'm sorry to point this out but hey guess what any ability that is spammed over and over again that can not be blocked or interrupted is over powered. In PVP This is the one ability that I die to constantly. Players with NO skill who think they are good because they can spam 1 ability over and over and win is wrong. I don't think anyone will disagree with the definition of OP abilities and If the developers are not willing to fix this ability and bring it into balance like the other abilities then its not worth playing against others who play with using this mechanic.

Yes I know you can side step it, yeah I know you can block it but there is no immunity given once it hits you and you manage to get up. They simply just do it over and over or at present they drop ice comet on you and you can not roll out because you are slowed 70%. This needs to be fixed sooner rather than later ZOS because I am tired of the 1 ability spammers.

If you want to fix the CC war that is running rampant through out ZOS land you need to increase the CC immunity buff to 3 or 5 seconds. This would stop all the CC spamming monkeys and bring some balance back to the game where players can recover.

If it would be over powered, I wouldnt use jabs instead on my templar.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Vraneon wrote: »

1) wrecking blow can be interrupted

2) it can be easily outrun, blocked or dodged

3) if you can't deal with it, just use it yourself

And no, I don't think it's op at all. I think there are much stronger instant cast abilities, which can't be even dodged.

The only way to dodge wb is to dodge through a person, dodge is no longer a viable defence now as most builds don't have to stamina to dodge twice.

You can block it but it'll drain a lot of stamina they'll have a next one charged with 20% more dmg.

Jumping on the 1 button spam bandwagon isn't an option.

Also it can't be interrupted unless they changed that in 1.7

You could also learn to dodge at the right time or cc during animation But eh I guess callng for nerfs is the easy way out.

I could but considered wb is spammed 1 dodge isn't going to do it, you know that 33% dodge cost increase?

Also you heard of immunity right? cc can stop 1? i cc he breaks and spams more.

It's an op skill, the end.

Alucardo · September 2015

As a magicka build, after a few breaks and rolls my stamina is fully depleted, so I just get to stand there while they play hacky sack with my corpse. I wouldn't have an issue with spells like WB if stamina wasn't such an issue lately.

Kupoking · September 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Anazasi wrote: »

I'm sorry to point this out but hey guess what any ability that is spammed over and over again that can not be blocked or interrupted is over powered. In PVP This is the one ability that I die to constantly. Players with NO skill who think they are good because they can spam 1 ability over and over and win is wrong. I don't think anyone will disagree with the definition of OP abilities and If the developers are not willing to fix this ability and bring it into balance like the other abilities then its not worth playing against others who play with using this mechanic.

Yes I know you can side step it, yeah I know you can block it but there is no immunity given once it hits you and you manage to get up. They simply just do it over and over or at present they drop ice comet on you and you can not roll out because you are slowed 70%. This needs to be fixed sooner rather than later ZOS because I am tired of the 1 ability spammers.

If you want to fix the CC war that is running rampant through out ZOS land you need to increase the CC immunity buff to 3 or 5 seconds. This would stop all the CC spamming monkeys and bring some balance back to the game where players can recover.

If it would be over powered, I wouldnt use jabs instead on my templar.

leepalmer95 wrote: »

Vraneon wrote: »

1) wrecking blow can be interrupted

2) it can be easily outrun, blocked or dodged

3) if you can't deal with it, just use it yourself

And no, I don't think it's op at all. I think there are much stronger instant cast abilities, which can't be even dodged.

The only way to dodge wb is to dodge through a person, dodge is no longer a viable defence now as most builds don't have to stamina to dodge twice.

You can block it but it'll drain a lot of stamina they'll have a next one charged with 20% more dmg.

Jumping on the 1 button spam bandwagon isn't an option.

Also it can't be interrupted unless they changed that in 1.7

You could also learn to dodge at the right time or cc during animation But eh I guess callng for nerfs is the easy way out.

I could but considered wb is spammed 1 dodge isn't going to do it, you know that 33% dodge cost increase?

Also you heard of immunity right? cc can stop 1? i cc he breaks and spams more.

It's an op skill, the end.

1 dodge is good for me. For you its not. Oh well.

Kupoking · September 2015

Your conclusion just shows how close minded you are. You are wrong but i see no point in explaining

leepalmer95 · September 2015

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Your conclusion just shows how close minded you are. You are wrong but i see no point in explaining

I'm closed minded because i'm pointing out a skill is op? Your closed minded because you assume it isn't op?

The skill is a high dmg stun skil that can't be interrupted, that 20% dmg buff's itself. Only way to dodge it to it dodge roll through the person otherwise it'll hit you through dodge. You can block but then the next attack comes almost instantly with 20% more dmg because of the 1s charge time.

You can weave this skill with a heavy attack so you can't even see the wb and the target will get shot in the air, 20% + dmg heavy attacked and then any other skill all within .5 seconds.

Immovablestone · September 2015

leepalmer95 wrote: »

You can weave this skill with a heavy attack

I've seen this mentioned a few times, and pardon my newbishness, but how does that happen?

leepalmer95 · September 2015

Immovablestone wrote: »

leepalmer95 wrote: »

You can weave this skill with a heavy attack

I've seen this mentioned a few times, and pardon my newbishness, but how does that happen?

You start a wb, cancel it by doing a heavy attack the wb animation will stop and you'll charge a heavy attack, midway through charging the wb will hit then the heavy attack straight after.