Lots of mob abilities has become unblockable

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO · September 2015

I noticed you can no longer block a lot of abilities that monsters cast at you. For example the stun that circles thorns around you cannot be blocked, neither can the 2 aoe damage harvesters cast be blocked anymore.

Is this intentional or a bug

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · September 2015

Yeah, I have to admit considering ZOS nerfed blocking and then we cannot block this stuff when we did before it is kinda rediculous, its like they have to make it hard for us now. casual joe public will be upset that the game is just getting too hard now.. another thing, I realized that in regular Cyrodiil that all the npc enemies are now VR14, hell I remember when they were just VR1. Is that it or next will they all be VR16 when the Orsinium DLC drops..

Rikal · September 2015

I've been trying to figure what's going on in some of these situations too. Seems like it may be part of the overall performance/lag/latency whatever you want to call it issue. If I put my block up in response to seeing a certain animation same as before sometimes it doesn't work. If I anticipate (or guess) and put my block up before the animation starts it works.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · September 2015

Rikal wrote: »

I've been trying to figure what's going on in some of these situations too. Seems like it may be part of the overall performance/lag/latency whatever you want to call it issue. If I put my block up in response to seeing a certain animation same as before sometimes it doesn't work. If I anticipate (or guess) and put my block up before the animation starts it works.

Yeah but the Animation from the NPC is the clue sooo you can block...

ViscousSummer88 · September 2015

I must admit that I'm "Casual Joe Public". Sadly for an MMO there are not enough tools for grouping and you will notice that most people are running around questing on their own, because the game forces that on them as basic features such as quest sharing etc simply do not work right.

I've noticed that it is incredibly more difficult now, to the point it's frustrating and myself as a casual player do not have the patience to continue getting killed over and over and over. I'm not ashamed to be a casual player, there is nothing wrong with it. Unless they fix their "MMO" I don't see how they can justify the amount of nerfs they've done.

Maybe I'm just bad at the game, I probably am so please don't say "get good" blah, blah, blah.

Rikal · September 2015

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Rikal wrote: »

I've been trying to figure what's going on in some of these situations too. Seems like it may be part of the overall performance/lag/latency whatever you want to call it issue. If I put my block up in response to seeing a certain animation same as before sometimes it doesn't work. If I anticipate (or guess) and put my block up before the animation starts it works.

Yeah but the Animation from the NPC is the clue sooo you can block...

Just so comrade. But hopefully if this is what's going on, performance improvements already in the works will be taking care of it.

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO · September 2015

ViscousSummer88 wrote: »

I must admit that I'm "Casual Joe Public". Sadly for an MMO there are not enough tools for grouping and you will notice that most people are running around questing on their own, because the game forces that on them as basic features such as quest sharing etc simply do not work right.

I've noticed that it is incredibly more difficult now, to the point it's frustrating and myself as a casual player do not have the patience to continue getting killed over and over and over. I'm not ashamed to be a casual player, there is nothing wrong with it. Unless they fix their "MMO" I don't see how they can justify the amount of nerfs they've done.

Maybe I'm just bad at the game, I probably am so please don't say "get good" blah, blah, blah.

No man I feel for you... I do, I've been playing since early access launch on PC and let me tell you I'm no Sypher, on a side note I wish I could be as good as him but I digress, but because I have alot of experiance I usually make good choices but im not perfect and IC even with the TTK increased is no joke, the game is more difficult (many of the daedra have alot of health) dont get me wrong it can be so much fun, sneaking around enemy sewers with Daedra around can be nail biting if you are alone, and the satisfaction of finding and killing a enemy player and surviving and then getting back to base without dying is just awesome.

but the game is alot harder...

ontheleftcoast · September 2015

Rikal wrote: »

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Rikal wrote: »

I've been trying to figure what's going on in some of these situations too. Seems like it may be part of the overall performance/lag/latency whatever you want to call it issue. If I put my block up in response to seeing a certain animation same as before sometimes it doesn't work. If I anticipate (or guess) and put my block up before the animation starts it works.

Yeah but the Animation from the NPC is the clue sooo you can block...

Just so comrade. But hopefully if this is what's going on, performance improvements already in the works will be taking care of it.

Performance improvements, are you serious? This release was supposed to be full of performance improvement. Please, ZOS, no more! To be honest I think the only thing ZOS is trying to optimize is how fast they can drain our wallets.

QuebraRegra · September 2015

whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »

Yeah, I have to admit considering ZOS nerfed blocking and then we cannot block this stuff when we did before it is kinda rediculous, its like they have to make it hard for us now. casual joe public will be upset that the game is just getting too hard now.. another thing, I realized that in regular Cyrodiil that all the npc enemies are now VR14, hell I remember when they were just VR1. Is that it or next will they all be VR16 when the Orsinium DLC drops..

Seriously tho, the NPCs in the previous patch were pretty serious business, and quite often more damaging than any player. They see through cloak and hiding automagically, and regularly hit for 17k in a single shot depending.

With the nerf to dmg, how does it make sense to increase their lvl?

SeptimusDova · September 2015

Eric Wrobel and Rich Lambert stated that it was good for the long term health of the game. And that they were happy with the changes.

rotaugen454 · September 2015

Yeah, I find myself unable to block any of the CCs from the NPCs. I was wondering if that was a bug or intentional. I don't know if it is lag related, as it happens in empty-ish areas where I am having no lag as well.

Morimizo · September 2015

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

I noticed you can no longer block a lot of abilities that monsters cast at you. For example the stun that circles thorns around you cannot be blocked, neither can the 2 aoe damage harvesters cast be blocked anymore.

Is this intentional or a bug

Though it could be latency on your and other players' parts, I believe it is intentional.

Blocking and evasion were targeted on this update, because apparently mobility and defense are irritating things, and need to be stopped, or at least contained.

PVP'er: "How can I smack something with my huge hammer if you won't stand still!!"

Daedroth: "How can I incinerate you with my stationary, incredibly-slow-to-get-started fire breath, if you can just roll dodge or side step it? So frustrating..."

Harvester: "You gamemasters really ticked me off proper when you gimped Doshia, give me unblockables, or I'll...I'll...keep hissing in your general direction!!"

Dev: "Well, we can't have that..."

ADarklore · September 2015

I agree... this update nerfed players and buffed enemies to an extreme. They've increased enemy AoE's while reducing our ability to dodge-roll- and they're not just simple AoE's, they are persistent- even after the enemy who cast it is dead- which is extremely annoying. Ever since this patch I've seen "DODGE" flash up on my screen more often than "BLOCK"- which is what I used to see all the time.

It appears that, for those leveling, you really NEED TO buy those 50% XP scrolls to make your character at least 3-4 levels above your enemies in order to have a better chance of survival... wonder if this is "working as intended"?

hrothbern · September 2015

nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO wrote: »

I noticed you can no longer block a lot of abilities that monsters cast at you. For example the stun that circles thorns around you cannot be blocked, neither can the 2 aoe damage harvesters cast be blocked anymore.

Is this intentional or a bug

Difficult to say... Depends....
IF big monster/boss damage cannot be blocked anymore, it encourages players to find another kind of mitigation: mobilty, armor, buffs, etc...

However, IF small damage from mobs cannot be blocked anymore, it kind of buffs the blocker !!!

IF you block in a mob small damage attacks all the time, your need for precious Stamina is higher.
IF these small damage attacks are not blockable anymore, they are also not costing Stamina anymore

only a little bit of health.... Of course IF you are tanky enough (enough Mitigation buffs/Armor Resistance/Health pool/Self Heal)