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IC Spawn Location Camping Needs Addressing ASAP
Starshadw
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ZOS folks, please - you need to make the immediate areas around ALL spawn locations (ladders, the spots leading down into the sewers from the districts) safe zones so that no one can be attacked while they are changing zones. Right now, people are camping those (sitting on top of them) and killing people as they are loading in - which means the ones zoning in are unable to fight back, and are dead before they can even move. Please address this so that people can no longer do this. There is nothing more frustrating than dying while you can do nothing.
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Rikal✭✭✭Coming soon....
People telling you;
1. This is actually fair and honorable.
2. Stop whining.
3. Stay out of IC if you don't like it.
4. Your free to quit if you don't like it.
5. ZOS designed it that way so they must want players to do it.Rikal on NA-PC (aka Rhaulikko)24 -
CaptainObvious✭✭✭✭Well they do seem to reward players for being a ***. That is kind of continuing on that same course.
Kinda waiting for the devs to realize that they get what they give...Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.8 -
gilbegger✭✭✭You PC people should be ashamed of yourselves...
There is no way this would happen on PS4 or Xbox...
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Neoakropolis✭✭✭You would think they would have learned their lesson when ppl would spawn camp inside gates in Cyro... Guess not..3
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JacksonCarter13✭✭✭SeptimusDova wrote: »They do not care.Send $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
Dude this 100% before you get this removed lol. They don't care anymore at all its money money money. Who cares what happens were all still making chunks of cash right! Totally were obviously doing something right if we're all making so much money.8 -
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✭GetCarter13 The issue was brought up on a PTS thread. And well. It was not changed. Much was brought up and promptly ignored. The Damage Control Team will be around shortly. Silence is telling is it not?4 -
Starshadw✭✭✭✭The thing that baffles me is we know they can do it because there are already quest areas in IC that are safe zones - all they would need to do would be to make the area immediately around the spawn points safe zones as well.1
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gilbegger✭✭✭wraithguknub18_ESO wrote: »
I see you are "irony impaired"...
This will happen on Xbox and PS4... they will watch youtube/streams and copy this day one.2 -
Molag_Crow✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭Interesting... I always find a way to ruin a ganker/campers day, so I'll look out for this when it comes to it.
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Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭@Starshadw This should be in place already; every ladder has a timed immunity buff that lasts for 30 seconds.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler I think your timed Sanctuary buffs on the sewer <-> district ladders are not long enough. Loading screens between the two areas are taking in excess of 2 minutes to complete. It seems though that Sanctuary is being applied when you activate the sewer/ladder in the district you're leaving (you can hear the sound effect), meaning it is counting down during the loading screen. It would make more sense if the buff could be added after the loading screen, when the UI is initialised in the new location and the character appears in the world.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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newtinmpls✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭@Starshadw This should be in place already; every ladder has a timed immunity buff that lasts for 30 seconds.
It's been a few updates since I've had a loading screen less than about 40 seconds.... this makes no sense.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
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House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
Starshadw✭✭✭✭@Starshadw This should be in place already; every ladder has a timed immunity buff that lasts for 30 seconds.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler I think your timed Sanctuary buffs on the sewer <-> district ladders are not long enough. Loading screens between the two areas are taking in excess of 2 minutes to complete. It seems though that Sanctuary is being applied when you activate the sewer/ladder in the district you're leaving (you can hear the sound effect), meaning it is counting down during the loading screen. It would make more sense if the buff could be added after the loading screen, when the UI is initialised in the new location and the character appears in the world.
Given that most folks are seeing loading screens of 2 minutes or more (I know a number of guildies who are looking at 5+ minute loading screens) as you mention above, 30 seconds is definitely not enough time. Is there a reason it can't be an AOE sanctuary instead of a timed one? Meaning that as long as you're standing there, you cannot attack or be attacked? I might be missing something, but I don't think there's any way to abuse that. A player standing in the sanctuary AOE can't be attacked, but would be unable to attack as well, and so there would be no chance someone could be standing in the safe spot and attacking people.
I suppose someone could step out and attack, and then run back, which could be a pain.
It won't stop people from stealth camping nearby outside the safe zone, but it would prevent them from stealth camping and attacking literally on top of the spawn location. And at least players loading in on either side would be able to figure out how they wanted to proceed, as opposed to discovering after they've loaded in that they are under attack and almost dead.
Incidentally, if there's supposed to be this same sanctuary buff when entering/exiting safe zones in the district, these are also not lasting long enough. When I step outside and my character loads, she doesn't have the purple visual telling me she's safe. Frankly, I was surprised people weren't camping those locations as well.
The other major issue with camping that needs addressing ASAP is people camping the three entrances to the sewers - they sit there in stealth and again attack as people hit the door to begin loading inside. I've also heard that there are some who sit and simply spam skills on the spot.
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ZOS_BrianWheelerPvP & Combat LeadThe loading screens we have a fix in the works for next week's patch and should help make that timer on the immunity buff catch up. If it doesn't however, we will look into increasing the time on it.Wheeler
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jamesharv2005ub17_ESO✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭What people are abusing open pvp? Wow noone saw this coming did they? Wait a TON of people saw this coming. Hey tho the dev guy gets to gank newbs on his player account so thats all that matters.7 -
Starshadw✭✭✭✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »The loading screens we have a fix in the works for next week's patch and should help make that timer on the immunity buff catch up. If it doesn't however, we will look into increasing the time on it.
Thanks Brian - any chance at all of a hotfix before next week?
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People telling you;
1. This is actually fair and honorable.
2. Stop whining.
3. Stay out of IC if you don't like it.
4. Your free to quit if you don't like it.
5. ZOS designed it that way so they must want players to do it.
pretty much all of this....-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Robbmrp✭✭✭✭✭
✭What these people doing this don't realize or care about is generally you have 0 Tel Var stones....
Last night I was with a small group in the Arboretum District and a large blue group was killing the players coming in there. We had already deposited our Tv Stones so when we dropped down they mowed us over and only gained AP. They continued to farm us as we respawned in that area which wasn't a big deal as there was 0 Tv loss. Large farming groups are really only hurting themselves like this. You get minimal stones and loot the bigger the group.NA Server - Kildair2 -
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✭✭✭✭Easiest fix for this regardless of loading screen length:- Change the buff to work like a round, timed AoE. While inside the area, it provides Sanctuary & Silence. Exit the area and it times out after so many seconds. (see Templar Rune Focus)
- While in the AoE, the timer refreshes.
- Any combat initiated by the Santcuary'd character would also cancel the effect, similar to Rapids.
It wouldn't matter how long your loading screen was or was not this way. Only the length of timeout would have to be balanced (to prevent you from having free run immunity past mobs or PvP groups after exiting the area)
One other issue that does need to be considered it camping of the entry gate to IC. (I won't even get into how lame that is to a certain AD emp. and his/her crew.) If your Alliance has access, your alliance should have access, and it's not as if you can exit IC's front door to assist those trying to get in, since it takes you back to the Alliance gate.Just because you don't like the way something is doesn't necessarily make it wrong...
Earn it.
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Probably has checkbox on Customer Service profile that say High Aggro, 99% immunity to BS1 -
ben_ESO5✭✭✭The current mechanic of a timed immunity is vastly superior to the OP's suggestion of safe zones (hopefully next week's loading screen fix will solve the problem of losing your immunity due to a long load time).
Having safe zones around spawn points is just asking for idiotic playstyles and exploits.0 -
Enodoc✭✭✭✭✭
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District safe zones work slightly differently - there's an AOE Sanctuary at your alliance Rally Point (the respawn area where the ladder comes out) which is quite small, but works fine; and there's certain places in most districts which have Sanctuary inside them. All of those interior Sanctuaries except one have a separate exit which leads to a Sanctuary-infused balcony, so there's no timed Sanctuary on the entry door.Incidentally, if there's supposed to be this same sanctuary buff when entering/exiting safe zones in the district, these are also not lasting long enough. When I step outside and my character loads, she doesn't have the purple visual telling me she's safe. Frankly, I was surprised people weren't camping those locations as well.UESP: The Unofficial Elder Scrolls Pages - A collaborative source for all knowledge on the Elder Scrolls series since 1995
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Starshadw✭✭✭✭District safe zones work slightly differently - there's an AOE Sanctuary at your alliance Rally Point (the respawn area where the ladder comes out) which is quite small, but works fine; and there's certain places in most districts which have Sanctuary inside them. All of those interior Sanctuaries except one have a separate exit which leads to a Sanctuary-infused balcony, so there's no timed Sanctuary on the entry door.
Then it's a guarantee those doors to the quest locations will be the next spawn location camped by these jerks . Because the same situation applies - you're either zoning in or out, and you are completely vulnerable while doing so.
Incidentally, if there's supposed to be a safe zone at those spawning locations? I'm not sure they are working - I've been killed by AOEs up there.
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Kupoking✭✭✭✭✭Here some mechanics to prevent that:
1-look down there. Are people camping. 1.5If yes get into the trap door and change district.
2-jump down if you are killed by campers refer to 1.5
3-between district use smaller doors in corner. Then refer to point 1.Edited by Kupoking on September 3, 2015 7:56PM1 -
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✭✭ZOS_BrianWheeler wrote: »The loading screens we have a fix in the works for next week's patch and should help make that timer on the immunity buff catch up. If it doesn't however, we will look into increasing the time on it.
@ZOS_BrianWheeler
PLEASE but an immunity buff on the door outside of the Alliances Irrigation entrance from the base on BOTH sides please!!
If a player can touch the door and start the animation and get to the black screen they should be safe. Others pvping in the area should not rubberband the player back in the action. This is extremely annoying, especially since zergs are making runs to Alliance Base sewer gates. Though, I would prefer if it that whole little room were a safe zone.Far too many characters to list any more.1 -
Sylvyr✭✭✭✭✭Have you tried turning off your modem and waiting 30 seconds and turning it back on.
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✭The Problem right now about this Problem is, THE LOAD SCREENEdited by BuggeX on September 3, 2015 8:57PM#makemagickadkgreataigan
#givemeaexecute
#ineedheal
#betterhotfixgrindspots1 -
CaptainObvious✭✭✭✭Tried that. They catapulted that over the wall too.Due to a typo in the system, the area was accosted by the Daedric Prince Moar Lag Brawls.1
