12 New Sets - All Bind on Pickup

Nifty2g · September 2015

Is this some sort of joke? For an update claimed to be for the PvP player do you really expect a group who hardly PvE's to go into these vet dungeons wanting to min/max and be able to clear it for the new gear.

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12 new sets ... all bind on pickup

Sithisvoid · September 2015

The update had a little something for everyone, and that something was disappointment lol.

Pangnirtung · September 2015

Perhaps this is to encourage players to venture forth and get their own or is it to prevent the trickle down effect where non DLC players CANNOT have the new gear?

Nifty2g · September 2015

For the record I've completed White Gold Tower on Veteran, took a few hours to get through and I got no drops at all. Haven't tried the other one out yet.

But making this gear Bind on Equip it will still be extremely rare to obtain, the drop rates are low as anything, with random traits too. And takes probably an hour to complete with a decent group. Why are the new sets Bind on Pickup, what exactly is the reasoning behind this?

I'm not making this thread for me, I will eventually be able to get my gear in maybe a week or 2. But you know, I'd like to help players out in my guild with gear, because this grind sounds absurd.

JacksonCarter13 · September 2015

What's up Nifty! Yea dude honestly I was sort of excited for IC. But ever since I've stopped playing eso I can't even get myself to even hope on to try IC and even start the rediculous grind of gear and mats and everything eLse when in 3 months I'm going to have to do it again... If the PVP were fluid and still took skill I would be there. I still hop on teamspeak to say hey to people because I want to play I just know it's not even going to be an enjoyable experience. Urukai out!

NewBlacksmurf · September 2015

Let's slow down.
BoP - BoE

These are necessary to motivate ppl to move around. To be 100% honest I'd rather anything other than crafted items to be all BoA (bind on account).

If not ppl will just sit in trade and flood the markets with the same of stuff which drastically lowers value
The economy actually needs more BoP items. Other than crafted and the market would be a lot better and that's even mats too not just gear and weapons.

Nifty2g · September 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Let's slow down.
BoP - BoE

These are necessary to motivate ppl to move around. To be 100% honest I'd rather anything other than crafted items to be all BoA (bind on account).

If not ppl will just sit in trade and flood the markets with the same of stuff which drastically lowers value
The economy actually needs more BoP items. Other than crafted and the market would be a lot better and that's even mats too not just gear and weapons.

It's not going to take me very long to get this gear, I'm more of a PvE player, it just doesn't make sense why 12 new sets are BoP. It shouldn't be, there is no reasoning behind it, this content is extremely hard, have you attempted the Veteran versions of the dungeons?

redspecter23 · September 2015

I've been waiting for PvE content to get some bind on equip gear so we have a way to make some gold from PvP'ers the way they've been able to since the game released. I'd love to see more BoE items in all sorts of content so we can have an active gear economy for all players.

Makkir · September 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

Is this some sort of joke? For an update claimed to be for the PvP player do you really expect a group who hardly PvE's to go into these vet dungeons wanting to min/max and be able to clear it for the new gear.

wot

12 new sets ... all bind on pickup

I have new set pieces that are BOE.....literally in my backpack right now.

Xendyn · September 2015

redspecter23 wrote: »

I've been waiting for PvE content to get some bind on equip gear so we have a way to make some gold from PvP'ers the way they've been able to since the game released. I'd love to see more BoE items in all sorts of content so we can have an active gear economy for all players.

What? Only recently has anyone wanted pvp gear. Games been out a year and a half, you know.
When Morag Tong, Shadow Walker and that became popular it was more like "Finally pvpers have a way to make some gold".
Before that, most of the dedicated pvpers I know walked around with patches on their knees and holes in their shoes just trying to pay for their Tri-pots.

ColoursYouHave · September 2015

redspecter23 wrote: »

I've been waiting for PvE content to get some bind on equip gear so we have a way to make some gold from PvP'ers the way they've been able to since the game released. I'd love to see more BoE items in all sorts of content so we can have an active gear economy for all players.

As somebody who mostly PVPs, I would love for you to be able to make some gold off me in exchange for some of that BoP PVE gear.

Zheg · September 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

For the record I've completed White Gold Tower on Veteran, took a few hours to get through and I got no drops at all. Haven't tried the other one out yet.

But making this gear Bind on Equip it will still be extremely rare to obtain, the drop rates are low as anything, with random traits too. And takes probably an hour to complete with a decent group. Why are the new sets Bind on Pickup, what exactly is the reasoning behind this?

I'm not making this thread for me, I will eventually be able to get my gear in maybe a week or 2. But you know, I'd like to help players out in my guild with gear, because this grind sounds absurd.

I, too, would like nifty to farm this gear for his guildies

Maybe gw2 spoiled me, I'm just not a huge fan of rng traits and rng drops. I'd rather know if I buckle down and run the dungeon X times I can buy the gear vs. being rng cursed and get frustrated when the hard new dungeon takes 3 hours and I anticipate getting nothing.

CitraBenzoet_ESO · September 2015

JacksonCarter13 wrote: »

What's up Nifty! Yea dude honestly I was sort of excited for IC. But ever since I've stopped playing eso I can't even get myself to even hope on to try IC and even start the rediculous grind of gear and mats and everything eLse when in 3 months I'm going to have to do it again... If the PVP were fluid and still took skill I would be there. I still hop on teamspeak to say hey to people because I want to play I just know it's not even going to be an enjoyable experience. Urukai out!

Get yo ass back on here

NGP · September 2015

lots of slots to be occupied. And what to do with those duplicated gears? decon them?

Personofsecrets · September 2015

bop is a joke for these sets.

random traits and armor types is a sadistic joke.

thank you game developers who get their ideas from diablo 3.

hrothbern · September 2015

Makkir wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Is this some sort of joke? For an update claimed to be for the PvP player do you really expect a group who hardly PvE's to go into these vet dungeons wanting to min/max and be able to clear it for the new gear.

wot

12 new sets ... all bind on pickup

I have new set pieces that are BOE.....literally in my backpack right now.

Which sets do you have that are BOE?

Francescolg · September 2015

Personofsecrets wrote: »

thank you game developers who get their ideas from diablo 3.

Nope, about 12+ years ago the D2-developers were more intelligent because they nurfed Sorcerer's "lightning bolt" / blink earlier and in the proper way. They discovered much earlier, that being able to port x-times with just one class is too much to call it a "balanced pvp".

In ESO balancing such spells took ages and it is one of the reasons some players left ESO.

Docmandu · September 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

For the record I've completed White Gold Tower on Veteran, took a few hours to get through and I got no drops at all. Haven't tried the other one out yet.

But making this gear Bind on Equip it will still be extremely rare to obtain, the drop rates are low as anything, with random traits too. And takes probably an hour to complete with a decent group. Why are the new sets Bind on Pickup, what exactly is the reasoning behind this?

I'm not making this thread for me, I will eventually be able to get my gear in maybe a week or 2. But you know, I'd like to help players out in my guild with gear, because this grind sounds absurd.

We have PvE players to thank for that.. originally Trials gear was BoE, but some PvE players demanded it be changed since "they put the effort into it" and other people shouldn't be allowed to pay them gold for their effort.

Anyway I agree with the OP.. I want to PvP, not spend hours on end in PvE dungeons.

Mojmir · September 2015

Well,this was a pvp update. Lol

olsborg · September 2015

As usual, they only really care about pvers and pretend to care about pvpers. I cant set my foot into a pve dungeon, pve was ruined for me shortly after release due to bugs and other issues. I never really recovered after that and commited to pvp, wich I love. But they keep releasing new end game gear that is better then most sets, but it only drops in pve trials etc...sadtimes.

NGP · September 2015

Francescolg wrote: »

Personofsecrets wrote: »

thank you game developers who get their ideas from diablo 3.

Nope, about 12+ years ago the D2-developers were more intelligent because they nurfed Sorcerer's "lightning bolt" / blink earlier and in the proper way. They discovered much earlier, that being able to port x-times with just one class is too much to call it a "balanced pvp".

In ESO balancing such spells took ages and it is one of the reasons some players left ESO.

Argue as much as you like. I want to create 8 characters, 2 for each class, one magicka one for stamina. Guess the only thing left for me to complain would be the change of race passive

NGP · September 2015

Personofsecrets wrote: »

bop is a joke for these sets.

random traits and armor types is a sadistic joke.

thank you game developers who get their ideas from diablo 3.

Which I only enjoy watching their cinematics on youtube.

olsborg · September 2015

God forbid classes have unique roles/abilities.

AssaultLemming · September 2015

All the new sets should be available for TV stones, not just the 5 most useless sets. Even if they are only available in the lottery bags that would be better than nothing!

Huggernaut · September 2015

Personally think it's good. You want the gear, get off your ass and go and get it.

Prevents people that find ways to abuse the market and horde vast quantities of gold from simply buying power.

Valn · September 2015

So they're basically widening the gap even moreeeeeeeeeeeee. Those who play casual, and those who play 20/7 getting the PVP sets.

Valn · September 2015

Mojmir wrote: »

Well,this was a pvp update. Lol

Are there any PVP related quests in the update?

Alcast · September 2015

I got a overwhelming piece in the first run, tho I was v15 so it is only v15 ><. What bugs me more is that the Undaunted Dungeons set drops like wormcult are still v14....wtf

@Nifty2g i am sure they will lower the difficulty, because there is no way that console players will be able to pull this off LuL.

Faulgor · September 2015

I thought this was a bug? Why wasn't it fixed?

Nifty2g · September 2015

Makkir wrote: »

Nifty2g wrote: »

Is this some sort of joke? For an update claimed to be for the PvP player do you really expect a group who hardly PvE's to go into these vet dungeons wanting to min/max and be able to clear it for the new gear.

wot

12 new sets ... all bind on pickup

I have new set pieces that are BOE.....literally in my backpack right now.

Are you talking about terrible Telvar gear? Because no one wants that.
The only stuff that is BoE from from the dungeons are the weapon and accessory sets.

Any word on why this gear is Bind on Equip @ZOS @ZOS_GinaBruno @ZOS_RichLambert

Please don't say it's intended

cazlonb16_ESO · September 2015

Nifty2g wrote: »

For the record I've completed White Gold Tower on Veteran, took a few hours to get through and I got no drops at all. Haven't tried the other one out yet.

But making this gear Bind on Equip it will still be extremely rare to obtain, the drop rates are low as anything, with random traits too. And takes probably an hour to complete with a decent group. Why are the new sets Bind on Pickup, what exactly is the reasoning behind this?

I'm not making this thread for me, I will eventually be able to get my gear in maybe a week or 2. But you know, I'd like to help players out in my guild with gear, because this grind sounds absurd.

The IC dlc has very little actual content, so everything about it is designed to stretch it out as much as possible. And the easiest way to do that is to turn every activity into a massive grind. Starting with the new motif, the hundreds of base materials needed for v16 crafted stuff, etc.

These design decisions are based business considerations, nothing else.