Please introduce a feature to change appearances!

GHOSTxFROSTY · September 2015

Hi all,

Massive fan of this game and the Elder Scrolls series and I've been playing it solidly since launch on the PS4. I do have a gripe though; the lack of a feature to change your appearance after the initial character-creation.

I run a pretty successful PVP guild of seasoned players and I've often heard my guys bemoaning mistakes made at the outset; characters that are too small, haircuts they regret, scars they wish they didn't have anymore. I myself am the proud owner of a goatee that seemed like a good idea at the time but has since lost it's appeal lol

I was wondering if/when we might get something whereby we could make alterations? I've seen loads of suggestions, ranging from in-game barber shops to a purchasable option on the crown store and I, for one, wouldn't mind spending a few crowns for a nice trim! There is actually a disguise I found for the quest "Gone Missing" in the Alik'r Desert (Forebare disguise to be precise) which removed my beard so presumably, unless it was a bug, it's well within the mechanics!

Please, please make this an option, if possible. I know loads of players would love to see it and it could even be a nice little earner for Zenimax. Would love to hear from anyone else who agrees and if there's enough of us, it might incentivise the devs to make it a reality. Also, if there is anyone from Zenimax with details of plans and/or an ETA, would love to hear from them too!

Thanks!

Akavir_Sentinel · September 2015

I'd change the thread title if I were you. Petitions are not allowed on this forum, and this thread will be locked or deleted.

Rodvic · September 2015

Petitions = bad

GHOSTxFROSTY · September 2015

Noted and changed

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · September 2015

GHOSTxFROSTY wrote: »

Noted and changed

Thanks, @GHOSTxFROSTY.

Appreciate the proactive edit. We find that petition threads don't allow for good discourse and constructive discussion since they encourage empty "/signed" posts.

We are working on implementing a character recustomization tool (you'll often see people on the forums refer to it as a "barber shop.") It's a fairly complicated undertaking and we want to do it right, so it's taking some time, but we are indeed working on it.

GHOSTxFROSTY · September 2015

That's great news

Many thanks

Bananko · September 2015

GHOSTxFROSTY wrote: »

Please introduce a feature to change appearances!

Your characters' appearances or other players' characters' appearances?

GHOSTxFROSTY · September 2015

Bananko wrote: »

GHOSTxFROSTY wrote: »

Please introduce a feature to change appearances!

Your characters' appearances or other players' characters' appearances?

Our own obviously lol. Would suggest heading to Cyrodill with a mace if your aiming for other players

Alucardo · September 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

GHOSTxFROSTY wrote: »

Noted and changed

Thanks, @GHOSTxFROSTY. Appreciate the proactive edit. We find that petition threads don't allow for good discourse and constructive discussion since they encourage empty "/signed" posts.

We are working on implementing a character recustomization tool (you'll often see people on the forums refer to it as a "barber shop.") It's a fairly complicated undertaking and we want to do it right, so it's taking some time, but we are indeed working on it.

Great to hear @ZOS_JessicaFolsom! Can I ask if there will be an option to name change as well? My first eso character has a pretty stupid name I thought was great at the time..

RAGUNAnoOne · September 2015

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is it going to be like the Skyrim face sculptor, pay gold to enter a limited character customization window? also how will it work with vampiric characters? If I May offer a suggestion, please make it in an indoor location and that the building(s) you get this feature in is a solo area.

ZOS_JessicaFolsom · September 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is it going to be like the Skyrim face sculptor, pay gold to enter a limited character customization window? also how will it work with vampiric characters? If I May offer a suggestion, please make it in an indoor location and that the building(s) you get this feature in is a solo area.

Not sure on the exact details yet! It's still in the early design phase, but we've certainly talked about the in-game option among other possible approaches.

TheShadowScout · September 2015

I really hope the feature when it comes will be in two parts...

- a "barbershop" in every major city that allows "everyday" changes like hairstyle and makeup for a mere gold cost. And then many adfditional options sold in the crown store (I remember some people wanting sai sahans beard for epic bearishness, or the morrowind-ish dunmer anime-like hairstyles...)

- and a "plastic sorcery provider" in some outlaw refugee or mages guild (possibly even in coldharbour, even, keep it a bit hard to get to, since at lowbie levels rerolling may still be a valid option after all) who allows "structural" changes like body shape, voice, even race (before the crying starts again, the game -does- have precedents, a alchemical concortion changes a dunmer into argonian trying for khajiit in greenshade, and a mystic goblet changes people into goblins in rivenspire...) for a crown cost.

- possibly even a third option for namechanges, like a clerk in your faction capital who for a small bag of crowns slipped in their palm will "update" your characters "official records" with a new name...

It may be a bit much to ask, but... would make things so much more fun, immersion-wise...

As for the recustomization mechanics, I also hope that instead of a gate price to enter the feature we might be allowed to get to the cost by adding a small crown cost per slider moved to a running total, to be paid when satisfied and clicking the "make it so" button.

As for the early design phase... this is a much wanted feature, so one hopes the ones coding might work on it faster! But... better to have it later and done well then something half-a... uhm... I mean... something suboptimal right now...

RAGUNAnoOne · September 2015

please no crown cost...

LMar · September 2015

TheShadowScout wrote: »

I really hope the feature when it comes will be in two parts...

- a "barbershop" in every major city that allows "everyday" changes like hairstyle and makeup for a mere gold cost. And then many adfditional options sold in the crown store (I remember some people wanting sai sahans beard for epic bearishness, or the morrowind-ish dunmer anime-like hairstyles...)

- and a "plastic sorcery provider" in some outlaw refugee or mages guild (possibly even in coldharbour, even, keep it a bit hard to get to, since at lowbie levels rerolling may still be a valid option after all) who allows "structural" changes like body shape, voice, even race (before the crying starts again, the game -does- have precedents, a alchemical concortion changes a dunmer into argonian trying for khajiit in greenshade, and a mystic goblet changes people into goblins in rivenspire...) for a crown cost.

- possibly even a third option for namechanges, like a clerk in your faction capital who for a small bag of crowns slipped in their palm will "update" your characters "official records" with a new name...

It may be a bit much to ask, but... would make things so much more fun, immersion-wise...

As for the recustomization mechanics, I also hope that instead of a gate price to enter the feature we might be allowed to get to the cost by adding a small crown cost per slider moved to a running total, to be paid when satisfied and clicking the "make it so" button.

As for the early design phase... this is a much wanted feature, so one hopes the ones coding might work on it faster! But... better to have it later and done well then something half-a... uhm... I mean... something suboptimal right now...

I like your suggestions

Annalyse · September 2015

I've been hoping for a way to change appearance since I started.... in game seems to look much different from the character creation screen.

Unfortunately, I found a thread from one year ago in which they state that they are working on it. So if they are still only in the "working on it" stage after an entire year, I won't hold out hope that it will actually happen.

TheShadowScout · September 2015

All the work from one year ago has kinda been pushed aside for the work on the console release.

Now that the console version is released, they are picking up where they left off last year... Imperial city is the first, announced way back when, out now. Orsinium, formerly wrothgar, is coming in a bit. After that, likely the much awaited Dark Brotherhood & Thieves Guild if the hint at the end of the orsinium video is any indication...

Thus... nowadays they likely are going to get it done. May take a bit, as has been mentioned... but... looking good for us to get it in the forseeable future! (Finally!)

And yeah, I am one of those people waiting most eagerly for it. I have so many characters which have slight imperfections to fix... a hip shape here, a hand shape there, a voice here, a namechange there... all stuff I'd be happy to spend crowns on, and I can't really see ZoS passing by a chance for more income through the crown store...

Gidorick · September 2015

@GHOSTxFROSTY, I made a thread discussing ideas for barber shops here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/165626/the-barber-shop-is-currently-being-worked-on-community-input-goes-here/p1. There's some good discussion there.

I love the in-game ideas @TheShadowScout. A face-sculptor would make sense for actual appearance changes.

Name change? You need to go visit the magistrate and file the proper paperwork! Where do you GET that "official paperwork"?.... Crown Store.

Chaos_Deception · September 2015

Here is a suggestion for the Upcoming Face Editor.

Allow us to Change the Light Source while in the Editor. Outside Day, Outside Dusk. Interior Well Lit.

Zaldan · September 2015

umm early design phase? wont be seeing this within 8 months

Aeisa · September 2015

Regardless of the time it takes, I for one am looking forward to this and have been waiting for a long time. A few more months plus I can deal with if the result is a quality release!

MornaBaine · September 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

GHOSTxFROSTY wrote: »

Noted and changed

Thanks, @GHOSTxFROSTY. Appreciate the proactive edit. We find that petition threads don't allow for good discourse and constructive discussion since they encourage empty "/signed" posts.

We are working on implementing a character recustomization tool (you'll often see people on the forums refer to it as a "barber shop.") It's a fairly complicated undertaking and we want to do it right, so it's taking some time, but we are indeed working on it.

Can you please explain why it's complicated? How hard is it to add new hairstyles, makeup, scars, tats, and adornments? Then how hard is it to allow players to simply RETURN to character creation and just keep them from access to faction change, race and class so that all changes are cosmetic only? After all, THAT is what people really want. MY fear is that it's "complicated" because you guys are trying to figure out how to monetize every little individual change anyone might want to make. Charge for new hairstyles, charge for new makeup, restrict new purchased hairstyles to a single character, sell "packs" of new tattoos, etc. When all most of us really want is to return to character creation and make whatever changes we want for a simple flat fee. And since we understand that you are determined to make money off this you can simply sell "Character Recustomization" scrolls in the shop. Just try to resist the urge to make them 5,000 crowns a pop. It's a bit ridiculous that ANYTHING in the shop is 5,000 crowns frankly.

Alucardo · September 2015

MornaBaine wrote: »

Just try to resist the urge to make them 5,000 crowns a pop. It's a bit ridiculous that ANYTHING in the shop is 5,000 crowns frankly.

I'd buy it for 5k right now. It's a hell of a lot cheaper and less time consuming than levelling another alt because I'm not happy with the one I have at the moment

hrothbern · September 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is it going to be like the Skyrim face sculptor, pay gold to enter a limited character customization window? also how will it work with vampiric characters? If I May offer a suggestion, please make it in an indoor location and that the building(s) you get this feature in is a solo area.

Not sure on the exact details yet! It's still in the early design phase, but we've certainly talked about the in-game option among other possible approaches.

yesssssss

rootimus · September 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Not sure on the exact details yet! It's still in the early design phase, but we've certainly talked about the in-game option among other possible approaches.

The gist of this answer is awfully familiar.

MornaBaine · September 2015

rootimus wrote: »

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

Not sure on the exact details yet! It's still in the early design phase, but we've certainly talked about the in-game option among other possible approaches.

The gist of this answer is awfully familiar.

Well at least it's gone from, "We'd like to do it and we're THINKING about doing it, but we'd want to do it just right" to, "We're working on doing it just right" which at least means MAYBE some actual code has been worked on at this point. MY question is; WHAT constitutes "just right?" Is "just right" the maximum way to pull money out of it? Or is it implementing it in the way the most players want? If it's the latter ZOS has shown no interest in finding out what that might be. They certainly haven't asked us. Oh sure, they've asked us what we'd like to be able to change and overall the response has been, "EVERYTHING!" But what they cleverly have NOT asked is, "How would you like character customization to work?" THAT they have not sought our input on at all. So... exactly what do they think "just right" is????

Rosveen · September 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is it going to be like the Skyrim face sculptor, pay gold to enter a limited character customization window? also how will it work with vampiric characters? If I May offer a suggestion, please make it in an indoor location and that the building(s) you get this feature in is a solo area.

Not sure on the exact details yet! It's still in the early design phase, but we've certainly talked about the in-game option among other possible approaches.

Early design stages? So basically, you've done exactly zero work on the barber shop during the entire year we've been asking for it and you have no idea if it'll ever be implemented at all. Gotcha.

b92303008rwb17_ESO · September 2015

ZOS_JessicaFolsom wrote: »

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom is it going to be like the Skyrim face sculptor, pay gold to enter a limited character customization window? also how will it work with vampiric characters? If I May offer a suggestion, please make it in an indoor location and that the building(s) you get this feature in is a solo area.

Not sure on the exact details yet! It's still in the early design phase, but we've certainly talked about the in-game option among other possible approaches.

Worst news ever that it's still in early design phase. Please make it the first priority, even higher than Orsinium. There is no joy in playing a ridiculous looking character.

GHOSTxFROSTY · September 2015

Thanks @Gidorick, I'll take a look at that thread!

Personally, I'm quite heartened to hear that they are at least working on it, even if only just. Some of you have mentioned you've been waiting for one since last year; I've been waiting since Oblivion lol. An ETA would be nice though.

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom, is there perhaps a very rough unofficial estimate you could throw us? Even if it's just a non-committal "before the end of the year" or "sometime in 2016"

@TheShadowScout , Zenimax should give you a job

Kuroinu · September 2015

@ZOS_JessicaFolsom please notice me! (lol)

Since this seems like a good thread and is related to the topic of changing appearance, I posted this in the "Ask Us Anything" thread a few days back.

Riko_Futatabi wrote: »

Would you ever consider adding an option in Character Creation to view the varying stages of Vampirism on the character we're creating? This would be of great help when creating a Vampire, thanks!

Since it never made it to ESO Live I'm still very curious about this, and whenever you are able to take the time to reply, that'd be much appreciated, thanks!

mrskinskull · September 2015

Akavir_Sentinel wrote: »

I'd change the thread title if I were you. Petitions are not allowed on this forum, and this thread will be locked or deleted.

In before lock?

ConcreteOrc · September 2015

I am for a barber shop with new hairstyles and character features. I'm sure they are aware this would be very popular.