Do You Think Additional Storage for ESO+ Members is a Good Idea?

kevlarto_ESO · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Yep, means ay some point it will be offered in the store, Storage space is a big seller in these games.

BigM · August 2015

No, it's not a good idea

UrQuan wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

A lot of you think you will be able to remove items from the bag. The way I see it and how it should work, if you plan on allowing plus to run out then before it does you will need to empty the bag. Because once you lose plus you should lose all access to that bag and any items in it. If you don't then it would be looked at as an exploit.

Hmm, so it's not just that you think that bags will have to be emptied if ESO+ runs out, it's also that you think they should have to be emptied. Interesting.

I'd agree that with the guild-bank-like approach (ie. when you no longer qualify you can still withdraw, but you can no longer deposit) there will be some people who will sub for a month, dump everything they can into the bags, and then unsub, knowing that they'll still have all that stuff sitting there for when they need it.

Is that actually a bad thing though? It still provided them with an incentive to subscribe (even if only for a month), and odds are that at some point they'll want to subscribe again in order to be able to deposit again.

Have we finally gone to where a company makes something to where it can be exploited and used as the norm? That will be really sad if ZoS goes there.

UrQuan · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

BigM wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

A lot of you think you will be able to remove items from the bag. The way I see it and how it should work, if you plan on allowing plus to run out then before it does you will need to empty the bag. Because once you lose plus you should lose all access to that bag and any items in it. If you don't then it would be looked at as an exploit.

Hmm, so it's not just that you think that bags will have to be emptied if ESO+ runs out, it's also that you think they should have to be emptied. Interesting.

I'd agree that with the guild-bank-like approach (ie. when you no longer qualify you can still withdraw, but you can no longer deposit) there will be some people who will sub for a month, dump everything they can into the bags, and then unsub, knowing that they'll still have all that stuff sitting there for when they need it.

Is that actually a bad thing though? It still provided them with an incentive to subscribe (even if only for a month), and odds are that at some point they'll want to subscribe again in order to be able to deposit again.

Have we finally gone to where a company makes something to where it can be exploited and used as the norm? That will be really sad if ZoS goes there.

Depending on how you define exploits, anything and everything can be exploited. Personally I wouldn't consider this to be any more of an exploit than using mules for storage or bouncing mail with attachments off friends for storage or getting 10 people together to make a guild just for the bank.

DaveMoeDee · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Great idea. Purely a convenience item, but it is somethings people will really appreciate. Obviously, people who pay $15 a month for a game that they can play for free month to month deserve a little something. I say this as someone who hasn't spent a cent or a crown on ESO since it went buy to play.

By the next DLC I will probably sub, but this feature would tempt me to sub a little earlier and play a little IC.

gard · August 2015

No, it's not a good idea

BigM wrote: »

UrQuan wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

A lot of you think you will be able to remove items from the bag. The way I see it and how it should work, if you plan on allowing plus to run out then before it does you will need to empty the bag. Because once you lose plus you should lose all access to that bag and any items in it. If you don't then it would be looked at as an exploit.

Hmm, so it's not just that you think that bags will have to be emptied if ESO+ runs out, it's also that you think they should have to be emptied. Interesting.

I'd agree that with the guild-bank-like approach (ie. when you no longer qualify you can still withdraw, but you can no longer deposit) there will be some people who will sub for a month, dump everything they can into the bags, and then unsub, knowing that they'll still have all that stuff sitting there for when they need it.

Is that actually a bad thing though? It still provided them with an incentive to subscribe (even if only for a month), and odds are that at some point they'll want to subscribe again in order to be able to deposit again.

Have we finally gone to where a company makes something to where it can be exploited and used as the norm? That will be really sad if ZoS goes there.

Sorry but this is silly. If ZOS decides to allow players to cancel sub and maintain retrieve only access to subscription containers, that's not an exploit. That's "working as intended."

Epona222 · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

gard wrote: »

Seeing as how console users can have an unlimited number of accounts (think personal guild bank, unlimited alts, and unlimited storage), the lack of crown store bank and character slots is really beginning to annoy me.

Now THAT annoys me (that console players can have unlimited number of accounts at no extra cost per account), PC players cannot.

However it does not mean that I am not in favour of this crafting bag idea, because I am.

But I do also want to have the same ability to have multiple accounts for the same price as console users - that is a huge discrepancy IMO and it needs to be fixed - either stop them doing it, or (better) let us do it.

Hexyl · August 2015

No, it's not a good idea

And now you have bag space for 36k 46k gold.. Yipi

BlueGreenMikey · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

gard wrote: »

This consumable increases your bank capacity by 10 slots, though it can't exceed the maximum size available from Bankers.

Sounds great unless you already unlocked all of your bank slots using gold.

Ugh, I didn't catch that before. That's really, really stupid and worthless. I guess I'll change my vote to no.

Ace_of_Destiny · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

BlueGreenMikey wrote: »

gard wrote: »

This consumable increases your bank capacity by 10 slots, though it can't exceed the maximum size available from Bankers.

Sounds great unless you already unlocked all of your bank slots using gold.

Ugh, I didn't catch that before. That's really, really stupid and worthless. I guess I'll change my vote to no.

The one you quoted is talking about bank expansion from the crown store...which just saves ingame gold just like the horse training does currently.
Not the crafters bag for ESO+...which is what this poll is regarding.

BlueGreenMikey · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Ah, gotcha. Got confuzzled from the person I quoted.

Selique · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

I'm sure that they will release Crafting Bags on the Crown Store for those who don't want to pay monthly. Just like DLC. Subs get them for "free" while they sub, but loose it when they stop. You can always buy the DLC on the Crown Store though.

I imagine crafting bags will be the same. "Free" while you sub, if you lapse, you loose the ability to put things IN them (Not take them out), OR you buy them off the crown store.

Malvir · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Reasons why it's good.

1) ESO Plus is underwhelming as-is. 10% XP is a drop in the bucket, and that's about all it is. Cheaper to just by the DLC pack and not ever get plus than pay 15 a month for a small xp bonus. Adding storage space makes Plus more appealing. That's great for those of us currently paying for it.

2) ESO Plus being more appealing means more people buy it, which means developers get more money, which means we get more features and better support. It does none of us any good if the game doesn't make enough revenue.

3) It's a pure benefit that doesn't take away anything from what non-Plus members already have.

ContraTempo · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

But then I would take just about anything that would reduce the storage issue.

Solve one of the most annoying aspects of the game while giving some value to a subscription that does not currently have much value. Win win.

I would prefer a BETTER solution to the storage issue, but this would be something.

ContraTempo · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

UrQuan wrote: »

BigM wrote: »

A lot of you think you will be able to remove items from the bag. The way I see it and how it should work, if you plan on allowing plus to run out then before it does you will need to empty the bag. Because once you lose plus you should lose all access to that bag and any items in it. If you don't then it would be looked at as an exploit.

Hmm, so it's not just that you think that bags will have to be emptied if ESO+ runs out, it's also that you think they should have to be emptied. Interesting.

I'd agree that with the guild-bank-like approach (ie. when you no longer qualify you can still withdraw, but you can no longer deposit) there will be some people who will sub for a month, dump everything they can into the bags, and then unsub, knowing that they'll still have all that stuff sitting there for when they need it.

Is that actually a bad thing though? It still provided them with an incentive to subscribe (even if only for a month), and odds are that at some point they'll want to subscribe again in order to be able to deposit again.

Well, if they want to sell subs I would think the items in the bag would just be unreachable until you re-sub. If they were really rude they could make those items go away forever if your sub expires, but IMO that would lead to some serious (and reasonable) hate from people who missed their deadline by a few days.

Scyantific · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Yeah, right now there's no incentive to sub (the exp/gold gains are laughable, IMO), so an incentive for people to start subbing would be good.

Fruitmass · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Psychobunni wrote: »

It's not enough for me personally to resub, but it's a step in the right direction.

lol, I was about to write the same thing.

So long as there's some kind of limit so that a person can't purchase excessive or unlimited amounts of inventory space I'm fine with it.

Akavir_Sentinel · August 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

The solution to your sub lapsing is simple. You can withdraw items from the crafting bag that were already there, but you can't place any new items into it. Guild banks work the same way when you no longer have the required amount of members. You can withdraw items from the guild bank, but you can no longer place items in the guild bank.

SkinnyDG · August 2015

Lmao. Inventory space problems are an artificial problem created by ZOS and now you want ME to pay cash to have it fixed???? Gtfooooooo

Gidorick · September 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

I really want to answer your poll @UrQuan, but I can't. It is entirely dependent on how it's implemented. If it's just another tab that you loose access to... no. not good. If they're bags you can carry around in your inventory and your crafting mats go straight into them and you can place them in your bank... yes. Very good!

I made a thread about it here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/212349/an-idea-for-how-crafting-bags-could-be-implemented-for-eso-members

UrQuan · September 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

Gidorick wrote: »

I really want to answer your poll @UrQuan, but I can't. It is entirely dependent on how it's implemented. If it's just another tab that you loose access to... no. not good. If they're bags you can carry around in your inventory and your crafting mats go straight into them and you can place them in your bank... yes. Very good!

I made a thread about it here: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/212349/an-idea-for-how-crafting-bags-could-be-implemented-for-eso-members

But the poll is supposed to be based on how you believe ZOS will implement it - and then you can post your assumptions for how you think they'll do it that you based your response on

Of course, how you think ZOS should implement it is another story entirely, and your thread is a better place for that discussion.

Gidorick · September 2015

Yes, it's a good idea

I voted YES because of 2 reasons:

Crafting Bags is a big want for me.
More ESO+ benefits is also a want.

I may disagree with the exact way it's implemented but crafting bags in any form are better than no crafting bags at all! I also would like a reason for more players to be compelled to be ESO+ members (myself included) and crafting bags are pretty compelling.