You get buffed, nerfed or remain the same in 2.1?

Teridaxus
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Some descriptions of your build and how the buffs/nerfs affect you would be nice
Edited by Teridaxus on August 31, 2015 6:38PM

You get buffed, nerfed or remain the same in 2.1? 95 votes

Oh yeah, i'm op now
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Nivzruo_ESOWomanJDarCristian5505leipatemeibbaa 5 votes
I got a small buff
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OurorborosnilldaxAuricleFizzlewizzlestrikeback1247Sneakles 6 votes
The buffs and nerfs cancel each other out
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revcasylolo_01b16_ESORev RielleAhzekmarty83SorisSahrotReinNovaShadowLEGENDARYYYTakllinADarklorekersed420EDS604 13 votes
I got a small nerf
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Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
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My skills makes me so op, i don't need any buffs or debuffs
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  • Teridaxus
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    I got a small nerf
    Well, time to vote in my poll.

    I'm a dk stamina tank using sword/shield and 2 hand sword.
    Well i got 2% more dodge chance from histbark.
    I get more damage from warrior but lose damage from nerfed sets. ( i lost around 100 weapon damage on pts )
    I don't get any regen from werewolf and during blocking, but champions points and less taunting, using damage abilites, bashing and improved battle roar should help.
  • GreenSoup2HoT
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    Well im a stamina nightblade. Bow light attack's got a buff and all my class skill's that were stamina got a 20% cost reduction. I got more health and magicka recovery at the expense of 15% stamina recovery. I also get Vigor now :)

    However my play style has changed tremendously with the dodge roll nerf. I know have to equip more cost magicka cost/regen so i can cloak more to compensate. I also plan on using Mist form or Drain Essence, depending on which one's better (drain essence seem's like a good heal if you use it then cloak with Vigor.).

    Drain Power got a 20% damage buff (what i wanted), not sure if it will be any good compared to Steel Tornado though. I would of preferred @Zos make it so i can use Sap Essence as a Stamina User and have the damage scale with what ever you have most of ( i don't care that its a magicka dump).

    Cloak buff's are great.

    Also im so happy they nerf'd proximity det by 28% and that's not even including the extra 30% damage reduction from Pvp debuff. So for instance a 20k prox det will now hit for 8.4k. This is so great!
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    Overall the change's to stamina nightblade seem fine to me. I hardly dodged roll to begin with. Now that cloak will do the same, nothing much to complain about.


    Edited by GreenSoup2HoT on August 31, 2015 6:52PM
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  • Cristian5505
    Oh yeah, i'm op now
    Magicka Nightblade... Period
  • NBrookus
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    I got a small nerf
    I *think* I'm a little nerfed based on the patch notes.

    I'm so far only a PvE player, so I think the no stamina while blocking is gonna hurt bad as a tank. And I don't have WW slotted on my dungeon tank hotbar -- it just doesn't make sense -- so I lose that stamina as well. I do have WW on my other bar tho, although I don't need stamina as much then.

    But I'm picking up a little extra buffs here and there. Wish I could finish my research so I could build a Hist Bark set!
  • Teridaxus
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    I got a small nerf
    NBrookus wrote: »
    I *think* I'm a little nerfed based on the patch notes.

    I'm so far only a PvE player, so I think the no stamina while blocking is gonna hurt bad as a tank. And I don't have WW slotted on my dungeon tank hotbar -- it just doesn't make sense -- so I lose that stamina as well. I do have WW on my other bar tho, although I don't need stamina as much then.

    But I'm picking up a little extra buffs here and there. Wish I could finish my research so I could build a Hist Bark set!

    If you are on eu, i can craft you blue hist bark for free.
  • Armitas
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    Let me count the ways...
    • My Kindling passive is shot due to the changes in secondary effect proc chance.
    • Force pulse no longer has a 40% chance to apply burning.
    • Impulse no longer has a 40% chance to apply burning.
    • Force pulse is unlikely to be an AOE because impulse no longer has a 40% chance to apply burning. Completely destroying one the few and best combos in the game. I guess it's back to impulse spam...Well done on ruining that for no reason.
    • Molten armaments now require a full heavy attack taking it further off the table for pvp.
    • Igneous shield now gives a 2k bubble to your group...far less if you aren't built for igneous shield. 2k or less shield works great with the overflow bug.
    • GDB is pathetic now at -50% healing, and it requires you to be in execute range to get heal worth the magicka.
    • WW now requires two ultimate slots to maintain the stamina recovery if you want to use two action bars. Making someone waste two ultimate slots for werewolf is ridiculous and should never have made it live.
    Edited by Armitas on August 31, 2015 7:17PM
    Retired.
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  • Rylana
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    Every toon is broken. it will be some time before I sort it all out. However, my nightblade and sorcs seem to be the least affected

    my templar and dks are completely shot
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  • Ishammael
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    Rylana wrote: »
    Every toon is broken. it will be some time before I sort it all out. However, my nightblade and sorcs seem to be the least affected

    my templar and dks are completely shot

    I HAS IT THE NEW DK BUILD PLZ MSG I SHARE
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  • NBrookus
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    I got a small nerf
    If you are on eu, i can craft you blue hist bark for free.

    Thanks for the offer, but I'm on NA. I may have to farm the materials list and hit up my guildmates. I haven't been in a hurry since I'm only VR2, but sounds like I may need it now versus my random looted gear. :)

  • Lord Xanhorn
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    I got a small nerf
    My templar healer is going to be a little less effective in the dps dept but largely unchanged due to Radiant Oppression nerf. The faster BOL will be nice. The healing in PVP is going to be about the same.
    I'm kind of a small deal!
  • JDar
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    Oh yeah, i'm op now
    I think I made out like a bandit with the improvements to Cloak, Sap Essence and Lotus Fan. I will find out in a few minutes when the patcher completes. Nightblades finally fixed. Only took them 15 months.
    We have ongoing efforts to improve the Nightblade class, and fix some of the outstanding issues...Patch 1.1.2 fixed many outstanding Nightblade issues, but below are some that we are either actively investigating, working on fixes for now, or have recently fixed and will push in a future patch. Please note this list does not reflect every reported Nightblade issue we are currently investigating

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    I'd say we can finally close the books on NB's being broken.
    Edited by JDar on August 31, 2015 7:18PM
  • pepperybrine
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    Stamina regeneration! Just give me my **** stamia regenertion
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  • Mdl518
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    How are Templars doing all around? Magicka and stamina dps?
  • Mitchblue
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    As a Magic NB I love refreshing shadows, now health and Mana regen - 15%. My destro staff will hit for a bit less.
    Edited by Mitchblue on August 31, 2015 8:15PM
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  • riverdragon72
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    Can't tell until I get home but looks like my DK got ****ed. Back to Sorc I guess, or just quit.
    Meh...**** it..
  • Teridaxus
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    I got a small nerf
    Can't tell until I get home but looks like my DK got ****ed. Back to Sorc I guess, or just quit.

    Actually sorc got nerfed.
    It's all about nightblades and the fact that their cloak make them godlike in imperial city makes it worse.
  • PBpsy
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    My skills makes me so op, i don't need any buffs or debuffs
    Since I have one of each I always get nerfed. :(
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  • SahrotRein
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    The buffs and nerfs cancel each other out
    Sorcerer.

    I've read the patch notes briefly but I recall that it was sort of even when it came down to buffing and nerfing, the Bolt Escape seems to be affected the most. But IIRC there were a few fixes and tweaks, one about Energy Overload, that the magicka return has been increased to 300%, which is a good thing since the current magicka return is barely noticable, but the damage itself is a real killer, which I like :smile:

    But overall nothing that would drastically change my playstyle or build, I'm not as affected in this way.

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  • aco5712
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    I got a small nerf
    im playing DK this patch (i think) so i obviously got a nerf there but i can manage the perma blocking, its managing the damage thats more of a challenge. Yet to test it on live though, just from a PTS perspective.
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  • Inactive Account
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    Where oh where did my stamina regen go? where oh where can it be?
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    aco5712 wrote: »
    im playing DK this patch (i think) so i obviously got a nerf there but i can manage the perma blocking, its managing the damage thats more of a challenge. Yet to test it on live though, just from a PTS perspective.

    I can understand the exit of the perma block, but now if you get hit four times while blocking, you have lost so much stamina , that when you attack, your stamina pool is all but gone.

    Gunna take a bit to get back into the swing of things....
    Edited by Inactive Account on August 31, 2015 10:41PM
  • Deandra
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    I have 2 v14 pve tanks so I'll let you guess how I feel right about now...
  • flintstone
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    I got a small nerf
    I took a 100 weapon damage hit (thats ok though).......but I don't like my stamina regin now (I'll need to cut my weapon damage more, or my crit % to raise it up.......trying both out today.

    They could have gave a CP reset also......I would have moved a few things around there also.....maybe

    I only needed to kill one mudcrab to hit Vet15 (-:
    Edited by flintstone on August 31, 2015 11:04PM
  • Ourorboros
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    I got a small buff
    Too soon to tell, really. I've never been a player who worked hard to make sure armor, passives, and skills all lined up for max effects. I will say that I took out a few mobs at Spellscar to test the Craglorn Xp levels, and they were decidedly easier for my sorcerer to deal with. And my silver zones were ridiculously easy (grinding collectible).
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  • aco5712
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    I got a small nerf
    aco5712 wrote: »
    im playing DK this patch (i think) so i obviously got a nerf there but i can manage the perma blocking, its managing the damage thats more of a challenge. Yet to test it on live though, just from a PTS perspective.

    I can understand the exit of the perma block, but now if you get hit four times while blocking, you have lost so much stamina , that when you attack, your stamina pool is all but gone.

    Gunna take a bit to get back into the swing of things....

    @nobertpaulb16_ESO blocking is now only viable for magicka builds (like it was before) and stamina tanks that do nothing but tank. With the right gear and set ups you can still perma block for the most part. Obviously you do need to let go but DK espeically has so many ways to regen stam its not going to be a huge issue :)
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  • Inactive Account
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    Why ZOS do you hate me? ( heavy nerfs )
    aco5712 wrote: »
    aco5712 wrote: »
    im playing DK this patch (i think) so i obviously got a nerf there but i can manage the perma blocking, its managing the damage thats more of a challenge. Yet to test it on live though, just from a PTS perspective.

    I can understand the exit of the perma block, but now if you get hit four times while blocking, you have lost so much stamina , that when you attack, your stamina pool is all but gone.

    Gunna take a bit to get back into the swing of things....

    @nobertpaulb16_ESO blocking is now only viable for magicka builds (like it was before) and stamina tanks that do nothing but tank. With the right gear and set ups you can still perma block for the most part. Obviously you do need to let go but DK espeically has so many ways to regen stam its not going to be a huge issue :)

    I'm guessing that you mean I need to rebuild my character. Yes, unfortunately, yes I need to do that again...

    From how I had been playing, I will still have to call this a nerf though. :s
    Edited by Inactive Account on August 31, 2015 11:21PM
  • Teiji
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    It's likely going to be buffs all across the board depending on how itemisation is best utilised.

    This means buffs for all the people who invest in new gear and nerfs for people who don't upgrade respectively. It maybe expensive and time consuming to do so, but it looks like you should be stronger than before the patch in PvP providing you use new gear yet severely weaker if you don't upgrade.

    I'm interested if anyone has theorycrafted this to see if what the actual facts may be moving forwards post-patch.
    Edited by Teiji on August 31, 2015 11:22PM
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