Forztr wrote: »

Just took part in a 40min seige of Aleswell on NA Haderus campaign where the keep wasn't burst because all the attacking siege was aimed at the corner where they were taking advantage of poor map design that lets people leap/blink into the corner tower. Ended up with more of the attacking force on the walls than seiging despite the outer walls being in good health.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler please fix ASAP. Stuff like this just ******* off regular players.

And yes DK can still leap from the outer wall at the back to the inner, I tested it by standing in a stupid spot hoping to be sniped so I could leave and got 3 DKs leaping to me.

They've had this issue for a long time and I know this wont get fixed for a long time sad to say

Lord_Hev wrote: »

Yes, lets just make all keeps the same on equal ground because QQ, you cannot adapt to an enemy force using guerrilla tactics.



Lets all be equal and hold hands in monotony!

Can we have some AD and EP home keeps with similar issues please, and if they exist can you post details for future reference.

How exactly to you counter it?

imredneckson wrote: »

Forztr wrote: »

Just took part in a 40min seige of Aleswell on NA Haderus campaign where the keep wasn't burst because all the attacking siege was aimed at the corner where they were taking advantage of poor map design that lets people leap/blink into the corner tower. Ended up with more of the attacking force on the walls than seiging despite the outer walls being in good health.

@ZOS_BrianWheeler please fix ASAP. Stuff like this just ******* off regular players.

And yes DK can still leap from the outer wall at the back to the inner, I tested it by standing in a stupid spot hoping to be sniped so I could leave and got 3 DKs leaping to me.

They've had this issue for a long time and I know this wont get fixed for a long time sad to say

I know it's been a long time issue but this week it's turned into a joke. You can see queues of 20+ people trying to make the jump every siege on the keep now. I would post a screen shot but another thread on this subject got deleted so I won't, but if ZOS wants to see them they only have to ask.

Just report those who take advantage of it. The aim being to hopefully force ZOS to acknowledge the problem and fix it instead of banning large swathes of the PvP population.

Rylana wrote: »

Just remove the pillar, problem fixed. Or make it like half as high.

Stuff like this shouldnt be in the game this long.

lol why should it be fixed and why the *** u desided it's a problem now?

Rylana wrote: »

Tarnumx wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Just remove the pillar, problem fixed. Or make it like half as high.

Stuff like this shouldnt be in the game this long.

lol why should it be fixed and why the *** u desided it's a problem now?

that particular spot has always been a problem

what problem?

Tarnumx wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Tarnumx wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Just remove the pillar, problem fixed. Or make it like half as high.

Stuff like this shouldnt be in the game this long.

lol why should it be fixed and why the *** u desided it's a problem now?

that particular spot has always been a problem

what problem?

any place having terrain where you can just jump into something, such as the farm at brindle, chalman mine tower, that corner of aleswell, and other spots

this isnt even about dragon leap or chaining, this is simply getting on a horse, casting rapids, and timing an accurate jump to completely bypass the siege warning mechanic and keep wall defense mechanic

There are a number of players that use various bypasses around the map that can steal scrolls from uncontested keeps and temples without ever using a single piece of siege, and get out so long as they can handle a couple of guards, with no warning until the deed is already done/too late to react to.

additionally, it is possible for the same players to take a keep from the inside with limited warning, after all the guards are dead and the front door is rammed/ballistaed from the inside to 50, the keep flags begin turning with no prior warning. this requires more than a simple jump, however. most require chains ambush leap or another ability in conjunction with poorly placed terrain to accomplish

This can be done on nearly any back triangle keep, and all at least 3 of the inner ring keeps.



I used to be an advocate of emergent gameplay in this manner when it was relatively rare and was more the subject of novelty because 99 percent of the time these guys would fail or whatnot. In the last several weeks it was spread like wildfire and become almost commonplace. The joke about killing the DK that chained into Chalman inner is no longer a joke when a whole raid of them does it, or starts stealing every scroll on the map every day just because reasons.

Aleswell has one of the worst, if not the worst design amongs all keeps, including 2 great sieging spots and a place to jump inside. Sure it adds element of surprise to the fight, but I'd rather have a intened mechanic to let few ppl get inside outer than poor terrain design.