So are we all Ok with some of the Sorcs builds doing 20k instant hits and having 20k shields?

Strider_Roshin · August 2015

It's pretty commonly known that crystal frags and overload are overpowered for a while. Heck crystal frag has been OP since the game's release. Don't expect anything to change anytime soon.

SkinnyDG · August 2015

@zos please give every player only 10 hit points and make every weapon/spell hit for 1 damage. This is the only logical solution.

Funkopotamus · August 2015

SkinnyDG wrote: »

@zos please give every player only 10 hit points and make every weapon/spell hit for 1 damage. This is the only logical solution.

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Avenias · August 2015

Hey look, another broken pvp thread. I cant for all of u ppl to die this way and feed the killers ur talvar stone. Ur pain is.............exquisite

Makkir · August 2015

Learn to Nirn

RinOkumara · August 2015

hellkrasher wrote: »

Men posting this was a bad a idea. So much excuses like "its blockeable and dodgable" like if almost all skills werent...

How in anyones mind having one of the highest bursts, dps, defense and mobility in the game with the same build is defendable?

Its fine if you are happy that the game covers your lack of skill, and now that you rerolled a Sorc you can actually kill someone, but come on, have some pride and admit when you are wrong.

Its as simple as, check the population, there are more Sorcs and NB than anything else, and have in mind that a few months back DKs where the most used... so all that ppl rerolled a new character.

Maybe you just need to git gud?

twistedmonk · August 2015

Look, if you are hardcore, you'd have VR14 on all classes and just bounce between them. That's the only way to deal with class-based MMOs. If you think a class-based MMO is ever going have fair and balanced classes, you are mistaken. Just accept that simple fact and move on.

if you absolutely must be playing the unbalanced class of the current patch. that's the only viable solution we have as players. then you are immune to any class changes. just bounce from vamp DK, to sorc to stam NB, and now to whatever 2.1.x brings.

this is a non-issue as you can just play a sorc if you think they are the best.

q.e.d.

corrosivechains · August 2015

Isn't the pvp in this game based around a war in Cyrodil? So what makes you think war based PvP will ever be balanced for 1vX. Quit trying to be a lone wolf and get a group together. Sheesh

vichoi · August 2015

hellkrasher wrote: »

vichoi wrote: »

For those who build to max dps and gave up defense and survival abilities, and those coward focus aim spammer who don't know how to fight in close combat, yes they deserve being one hitted by overload. That's 99% of current PS4 population.

Btw, those 2 spells can be reflected, at the time you killed by overload/frag, the sorc killed himself serveral times by reflect already.

Hello there, oh men, you dont have a clue, im detest, hate gank type builds with all my heart. This builds only became really usefull in 1.6.

I can assure you, i dont play that type of build, never will, and i hate that ESO pvps its was leaning that way in 1.6. Thanksfully some of that changes in 1.7.

So no, thats not my case, i play a balanced build.

About reflection, yes, so? A lot of skills are reflectable, but not every class has a reflection skill. Yes, i know sword/board has one, but WHY every single person should use s/b just because Sorcs has ridiculouse dmg/defense? It makes no sense that because you dont use 1 specific weapon or skill you should be 1 shotted. Thats not excuse. If that were the case, let the Templars and DKs get 1 shots habilities too that can be countered by some specific weapon.... that will be a fun pvp... im suere....

I don't think you're running a grass cannon build, and I said it's the population in PS4 as most PC players learnt how to survive, and block/dodge/ reflect overload or other ultimate.

I understand you don't want to be forced to use a shield, however, most sorc are forced to use shield so they won't kill themselves by DK wings or other reflect ability, and sorc do not have class healing spell so they forced to use a healing ward. The choice of weapon is very limit for sorc compare to other classes.

ku5h · August 2015

Sithisvoid wrote: »

You can do it with a magika DK also. Stack healing ward, igneous shield and annulment then focus on spell dmg. What's the problem? I can do that while perma blocking with sword and board if i want to get real funny. Stamina doesn't regen but magika does

No he cant!
DK has no escape ability whatsoever, not to mention op bolt escape.
DK has no insta cast, knock back, 20k+ranged spell
Comparing igneous shield to hardened ward is funny...
So no they are nowhere near the same and you know it.

Merlin13KAGL · August 2015

Those were probably critical hits, which puts the normal damage of this Ultimate at around 13k.

And "Top sustained DPS?" You're joking right? (And select fights with overload burn doesn't count as sustainable, btw.)

hellkrasher · August 2015

Merlin13KAGL wrote: »

Those were probably critical hits, which puts the normal damage of this Ultimate at around 13k.

And "Top sustained DPS?" You're joking right? (And select fights with overload burn doesn't count as sustainable, btw.)

Just for you to know i ware 5 pieces of impenetrable and 10% on the Champ System. So no

Molag_Crow · August 2015

Yeah I feel ya, totally.. not in that way, you know what I mean.

This is why I roll with shield reflect because without that, I'd be absolute toast. Nothing better than reflecting crystal frag/meteor/ice comet.

Solanum · August 2015

Sithisvoid wrote: »

hellkrasher wrote: »

Sithisvoid wrote: »

You can do it with a magika DK also. Stack healing ward, igneous shield and annulment then focus on spell dmg. What's the problem? I can do that while perma blocking with sword and board if i want to get real funny. Stamina doesn't regen but magika does

Pliz show me how u do 18-22k insta cast spammeable dmg with a magicka DK. Pliz show me!!!

Also, wheres the 20k shield? If you want to be even close to that dmg u need to focus all in magicka, so u ill have around 18k HP, which means the DK shield will be around 6k.

I ll w8 for your screenshots of 20k DK shield + 20k insta cast dmg. Thnks.

Lol salty much? The 20 k was a crit obviously maybe you should keep pressure on the sorc and wear down his shields with DOT instead of trying to pencil whip him on the forum

If there are builds that pressure someone to the point that they can't land a light attack, something is horribly horribly wrong with PVP.

Fortunately we have a very mature community that are willing to discuss balance issues, instead of relentlessly attacking those pointing them out, in what seems a desperate attempt to keep their advantage.

And this is good, this means that in the long run people can enjoy a large amount of diverse and balanced builds, instead of being forced into similar broken builds in a broken system.

Leeric · August 2015

No you definitely need to learn how to play lol

hellkrasher · August 2015

Leeric wrote: »

No you definitely need to learn how to play lol

Sure kido

twistedmonk · August 2015

corrosivechains wrote: »

Isn't the pvp in this game based around a war in Cyrodil? So what makes you think war based PvP will ever be balanced for 1vX. Quit trying to be a lone wolf and get a group together. Sheesh

Yeah I don't get the whole lone wolf 1vX nonsense. That only works against new players. I watch these 1vX streamers dying over and over again trying to go against 2 decent players, let alone a group. the game isn't designed for 1vX - those vampire magic emperor DK 1vX days are long over and good riddance.

group pvp is way more fun to me (and probably most players)

dodgehopper_ESO · August 2015

I have a balance idea that might solve this issue, and really be good/balanced for all builds:
forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/211441/a-suggestion-towards-balance-between-health-magicka-and-stamina#latest