I have to fight my own alliance troops to do quests now?

NGP · August 2015

I'm in silver zone. And come to this map I have to fight troops of my own alliance to do quests now. Really? Devs are you out of your mind? Why on earth would I be a traitor to do that?

Ace_of_Destiny · August 2015

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Ace_of_Destiny · August 2015

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?

Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

SirAndy · August 2015

Sounds like somebody skipped through Cadwell's dialog explaining the whole thing ...

NGP · August 2015

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?

Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

That's what 8 characters for.

NGP · August 2015

SirAndy wrote: »

Sounds like somebody skipped through Cadwell's dialog explaining the whole thing ...

Cadwell is the perfect traitor recruiter.

Gidorick · August 2015

Yea... this could have been done a lot more tactfully... oh well... they're not changing it now. I know I pretty much have zero will to go through silver and gold. I have alts for other factions.

NGP · August 2015

Gidorick wrote: »

Yea... this could have been done a lot more tactfully... oh well... they're not changing it now. I know I pretty much have zero will to go through silver and gold. I have alts for other factions.

I would stop doing quests from now on if not cos some quests granting some skill points. I'm not feeling so well. Guess I'll find some ppl in their zones to murder. Or quit the game for a few days,

Lenikus · August 2015

As a Khajiit loyal to the dominion, this one merely rushed the quests sneaking whenever possible, killing only rogue bosses, and saving as few citizens of the other faction as I could.
At least on Silver, wich means i literally just stroll'd casually around a destroyed Riften, saved zero eggs from the hatchling-murderer-mist, retrieved no shards of that axe thing (tho' i could have, but nah), and i'm pretty sure i left some racer die, too.

Oh and by this date, still didn't do S(*) for the covenant, too; I just wrek the pretty anchors.

Teiji · August 2015

NGP wrote: »

I'm in silver zone. And come to this map I have to fight troops of my own alliance to do quests now. Really? Devs are you out of your mind? Why on earth would I be a traitor to do that?

None of the things your character does in Silver and Gold zones actually happen. It's all part of the astral plane equivalent of Cadwell's consciousness, you entered the rabbit hole when you touched that crystal and tumbled down into wonderland, dare you see how deep the rabbit hole goes?

ZioGio · August 2015

NGP wrote: »

That's what 8 characters for.

Naw, those are mules for bank slots. :-)

Paazhahdrimaak · August 2015

I love that Happyscale gets to go to Morrowind and Skyrim and his homeland of Blackmarsh. Killing aldimeri oh well, just to keep leveling. You can stick to PvP, Or dungeons, and also doing everything in your starting zone if you really don't want to kill your faction.

likelolwhat · August 2015

I don't really see the problem here. It's all make-believe wrapped in pretend anyway. Or are you the kind who goes 'MURSION! yet skips past important dialogue? Yeah...

Austacker · August 2015

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?

Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

World of Warcraft has done it for 10 years that you reroll if you want to play the alternate faction.

It's the biggest MMO in the World today.

Failed assumption IMHO.

likelolwhat · August 2015

Austacker wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?

Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

World of Warcraft has done it for 10 years that you reroll if you want to play the alternate faction.

It's the biggest MMO in the World today.

Failed assumption IMHO.

And ESO should copy the bloated-corpse WoW because...?

NGP · August 2015

Teiji wrote: »

NGP wrote: »

I'm in silver zone. And come to this map I have to fight troops of my own alliance to do quests now. Really? Devs are you out of your mind? Why on earth would I be a traitor to do that?

None of the things your character does in Silver and Gold zones actually happen. It's all part of the astral plane equivalent of Cadwell's consciousness, you entered the rabbit hole when you touched that crystal and tumbled down into wonderland, dare you see how deep the rabbit hole goes?

I want to kill my enemy even in dreams.

NGP · August 2015

ZioGio wrote: »

NGP wrote: »

That's what 8 characters for.

Naw, those are mules for bank slots. :-)

Thus you're not so eager to experience after all. Neither do I.

NGP · August 2015

Paazhahdrimaak wrote: »

I love that Happyscale gets to go to Morrowind and Skyrim and his homeland of Blackmarsh. Killing aldimeri oh well, just to keep leveling. You can stick to PvP, Or dungeons, and also doing everything in your starting zone if you really don't want to kill your faction.

I would have a few skillpoints short then. Know what. **** the skill points. I'll quit the quests.

NGP · August 2015

likelolwhat wrote: »

I don't really see the problem here. It's all make-believe wrapped in pretend anyway. Or are you the kind who goes 'MURSION! yet skips past important dialogue? Yeah...

Don't you have a sense of loyalty? Never mind, guest you don't know what I'm talking.

NGP · August 2015

Lenikus wrote: »

As a Khajiit loyal to the dominion, this one merely rushed the quests sneaking whenever possible, killing only rogue bosses, and saving as few citizens of the other faction as I could.
At least on Silver, wich means i literally just stroll'd casually around a destroyed Riften, saved zero eggs from the hatchling-murderer-mist, retrieved no shards of that axe thing (tho' i could have, but nah), and i'm pretty sure i left some racer die, too.

Oh and by this date, still didn't do S(*) for the covenant, too; I just wrek the pretty anchors.

I'll google to make sure those quests have nothing to do with my own alliance before accepting them then.

likelolwhat · August 2015

NGP wrote: »

likelolwhat wrote: »

I don't really see the problem here. It's all make-believe wrapped in pretend anyway. Or are you the kind who goes 'MURSION! yet skips past important dialogue? Yeah...

Don't you have a sense of loyalty? Never mind, guest you don't know what I'm talking.

...Does the phrase "make-believe" mean nothing to you? Cadwell explains it. It's a Dragon Break, just go with it dude.

And no, my pretty pixels don't have senses of loyalty.

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO · August 2015

NGP wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

As a Khajiit loyal to the dominion, this one merely rushed the quests sneaking whenever possible, killing only rogue bosses, and saving as few citizens of the other faction as I could.
At least on Silver, wich means i literally just stroll'd casually around a destroyed Riften, saved zero eggs from the hatchling-murderer-mist, retrieved no shards of that axe thing (tho' i could have, but nah), and i'm pretty sure i left some racer die, too.

Oh and by this date, still didn't do S(*) for the covenant, too; I just wrek the pretty anchors.

I'll google to make sure those quests have nothing to do with my own alliance before accepting them then.

You're going to run into some issues completing Cadwell's Silver/Gold then. It's a bummer.

NGP · August 2015

likelolwhat wrote: »

NGP wrote: »

likelolwhat wrote: »

I don't really see the problem here. It's all make-believe wrapped in pretend anyway. Or are you the kind who goes 'MURSION! yet skips past important dialogue? Yeah...

Don't you have a sense of loyalty? Never mind, guest you don't know what I'm talking.

...Does the phrase "make-believe" mean nothing to you? Cadwell explains it. It's a Dragon Break, just go with it dude.

And no, my pretty pixels don't have senses of loyalty.

That's what I thought.

NGP · August 2015

theroyalestpythonnub18_ESO wrote: »

NGP wrote: »

Lenikus wrote: »

As a Khajiit loyal to the dominion, this one merely rushed the quests sneaking whenever possible, killing only rogue bosses, and saving as few citizens of the other faction as I could.
At least on Silver, wich means i literally just stroll'd casually around a destroyed Riften, saved zero eggs from the hatchling-murderer-mist, retrieved no shards of that axe thing (tho' i could have, but nah), and i'm pretty sure i left some racer die, too.

Oh and by this date, still didn't do S(*) for the covenant, too; I just wrek the pretty anchors.

I'll google to make sure those quests have nothing to do with my own alliance before accepting them then.

You're going to run into some issues completing Cadwell's Silver/Gold then. It's a bummer.

TheShadowScout · August 2015

Like it has been mentioned, none of that cadwells silver/gold stuff actually happens in the "real world" - its visiting an alternate reality and experiencing how things -would- have gone had you beed a hero for the other side. Almost like a dream, only that it drops loot...

See it as a chance to learn their secrets, so you will be in a better position to fight them in the "real world" once you finish your trip through those alternate versions... get a look behind the scenes of the other alliances, all the better to know where to slip the dagger if you were to get the chance...

MrGrimey · August 2015

likelolwhat wrote: »

Austacker wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?

Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

World of Warcraft has done it for 10 years that you reroll if you want to play the alternate faction.

It's the biggest MMO in the World today.

Failed assumption IMHO.

And ESO should copy the bloated-corpse WoW because...?

Because millions and millions of subs, over 10 years of longevity and still the biggest mmo. Not sure, but that might be a good game to reference to see what works

TequilaFire · August 2015

I had to check the date of the post to make sure it wasn't a necro.
Talk about a wayback machine!

traigusb14_ESO2 · August 2015

Also, check out what they are doing. Always actually read the quests

Almost 100% of the force leaders you encounter in the game are doing really bad stuff (in all 3 areas). They aren't just marching troops into other lands...

They are doing assassination plots, using necromancers to poison people, invading peoples dreams to make them kill each other, desecrating the dead of other sides to make them fight zombies and ghosts, melting people and stealing their skins for infiltration and assassination, enslaving other races to fight for them, desecrating religious rituals to sabotage defenses... etc. etc.

Every one of those "friendly" commanders are stepping way over the line. If your character is any kind of hero, these leaders need a beatdown, no matter which side of the war you are on.

If you are a vampire, werewolf or scumbag psychopath, your mileage may vary.

wraith808 · August 2015

Austacker wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?

Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

World of Warcraft has done it for 10 years that you reroll if you want to play the alternate faction.

It's the biggest MMO in the World today.

Failed assumption IMHO.

It's not an assumption. People complained during beta. So it was added.

A good read: http://esoacademy.com/news/veteran-rank-16-some-context/

Leeric · August 2015

Just choose the best option that screws them over, thats what I did. I saw it as steering their events to better fit EPs invasion plans.

Enodoc · August 2015

NGP wrote: »

I'm in silver zone. And come to this map I have to fight troops of my own alliance to do quests now. Really? Devs are you out of your mind? Why on earth would I be a traitor to do that?

It's an opportunity to see things from the other side. When you are in the alternate reality created by Cadwell's Silver, you are no longer a member of your original faction.
Also, all of the troops from your own alliance that you fight against are under the command of a rogue officer, operating outside of your alliance's orders. I would have thought that your alliance leader would praise the court-marshalling of these rogues.

NGP wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Ace_of_Destiny wrote: »

Alternate Reality...a "what if" of sorts.

Also, can you imagine how many posts would be made saying it's "not fair" that players have to make all-new characters just to see the storyline of the other two alliances?
Seems like a good tactic to me for ZOS to use.

That's what 8 characters for.

Yes, that's an option, but there are also people who want to experience everything the game has to offer on one character. Cadwell's is there as an option for those players.