Is it true: PK system?

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

I have seen this mentioned on the forums a few times is it true that there is going to be some kind a PK system for PvE? If it is true can someone please explain it to me?

What the hell am I and other new or low level characters going to do if it is true!? there are like THOUSANDS of high level and vet rank people spread in one zone at any time! I bet you anything that not all of them are going to be nice and if they get the chance some of them will pick on low level targets just to get a cheap laugh and since they are everywhere, do I have to sea more?

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

can't edit the first post so please pardon the errors, I just saw them.

starkerealm · August 2015

The system was supposed to be a part of the Justice system. You flag yourself for PvP as an enforcer, and anyone who picks up a bounty is flagged for the opposing team.

So... the takeaway would be, don't get caught stealing stuff if you're not ready to be mauled.

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

Sheesh so now we have to go through 25 people that will just STAND IN FRONT OF EVERY OUTLAWS REFUGE just waiting for someone with a tiny 30 gold bounty to pass by to kill! There needs to be a limit like you can only be attacked if you are notorious or KOS or something like that not for petty crimes.

Artfuldodger · August 2015

What is that player who posted here with the 10 million, or whatever the amount was, bounty going to do? lol.

jluceyub17_ESO · August 2015

I wouldn't worry about it, they haven't mentioned adding the enforcer system in months and their last comments made it sound that it was unlikely to ever happen.

Zorrashi · August 2015

Its supposed to a fully opt-in only method, but of course such a mechanic is going to have its share of problems. This is also presumably why it is taking especially long to develop. Rest assured, ZOS knows of the problem, and are trying to address it in one way or another.

starkerealm · August 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Sheesh so now we have to go through 25 people that will just STAND IN FRONT OF EVERY OUTLAWS REFUGE just waiting for someone with a tiny 30 gold bounty to pass by to kill! There needs to be a limit like you can only be attacked if you are notorious or KOS or something like that not for petty crimes.

Alternately, one outlaw waiting for a stray Enforcer to wander by and then ambushing them.

It was supposed to go both ways, with a kind of capture the flag mechanic for stolen goods.

That said, as someone else mentioned, they haven't discussed the system in some time, and there was some question over if it had been scrapped entirely.

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

good, I hope it is scrapped please forgive me if I was a bit aggressive but it is hard enough for someone like me with a low level, no MMRPG experience, and no one to fall back on other than myself in the end without other players trying to kill me.

Zorrashi · August 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

good, I hope it is scrapped please forgive me if I was a bit aggressive but it is hard enough for someone like me with a low level, no MMRPG experience, and no one to fall back on other than myself in the end without other players trying to kill me.

Nah its ok. I think they know that if they wanted to convert ESO to an open-world PvP game they would experience a ton of complaints.
That being said, I hear they are still working on implementing the PvP portion of the justice system in some form or another. They just want to make sure it is as non-griefable/exploitable as possible. Weather or not they can actually attain that is up for debate.

Kammakazi · August 2015

PK?

Yolokin_Swagonborn · August 2015

Don't worry yourselves over a feature that ZOS keeps pushing back and has never committed to a release date for. That is like worrying that spellcrafting will ruin the game now that that is suspended indefinitely.

I'd personally be more worried about dying at a ripe old age of 105 before any of these features actually come out.

ProfessorKittyhawk · August 2015

If they get around to implementing the Enforcer system, chances are you would only be flagged for PVP if you're flagged as kill on sight. So if you JUST committed a crime and we're caught or have a high bounty/heat then you would be flagged.

Forestd16b14_ESO · August 2015

If you mean the enforcer part of the justice system then yes there will be "PK" in open world

RDMyers65b14_ESO · August 2015

If you play smart, you won't have a bounty so you won't have to worry at all. Stealth is your friend.

Mojmir · August 2015

instead of putting pvp in a pve zone they put the opposite in IC, both dumb ideas

Funkopotamus · August 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Don't worry yourselves over a feature that ZOS keeps pushing back and has never committed to a release date for. That is like worrying that spellcrafting will ruin the game now that that is suspended indefinitely.

I'd personally be more worried about dying at a ripe old age of 105 before any of these features actually come out.

LOL.
Can you just imagine the nightmare ZOS would have trying to balance spellcrafting? I mean we are on what our 5th Bolt nerf?

Mane I would cry if they added "Spell crafting" It would never be balanced and sorcs would stay in perma nerf/tweak mode. lol

Molag_Crow · August 2015

Kammakazi wrote: »

PK?

That, and a potential marriage system.

Volkodav · August 2015

If they do that,then I bet the Legerdemain skills wont be worth a dime,cos no one will want to steal anything at all.

starkerealm · August 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

If they do that,then I bet the Legerdemain skills wont be worth a dime,cos no one will want to steal anything at all.

It'll still have the stealth discount, which is useful all over the place, making it just as much of a must have.

AlnilamE · August 2015

WhiskeyRiver.AZub17_ESO wrote: »

If they do that,then I bet the Legerdemain skills wont be worth a dime,cos no one will want to steal anything at all.

Just don't get caught.

As others have said, a 30g bounty is not going to flag you. It's the "You are now Kill on Sight" status that will do it.

Enodoc · August 2015

RAGUNAnoOne wrote: »

Sheesh so now we have to go through 25 people that will just STAND IN FRONT OF EVERY OUTLAWS REFUGE just waiting for someone with a tiny 30 gold bounty to pass by to kill! There needs to be a limit like you can only be attacked if you are notorious or KOS or something like that not for petty crimes.

In theory, an Enforcer will only be able to kill you if you are a Fugitive (KOS to NPC guards). Enforcers shouldn't, and likely won't, be able to attack Outlaws with lower bounties (but may be able to arrest them). It has been suggested (by players, not ZOS) that Outlaws Refuges could have their own mercenary guards that would keep Enforcers away from the entrances.

leepalmer95 · August 2015

CrowsDescend wrote: »

Kammakazi wrote: »

PK?

That, and a potential marriage system.

the good old days.

UrQuan · August 2015

Hmm, to me (and probably any hockey fan) PK = Penalty Kill so I have no idea what's going on in this thread.

RAGUNAnoOne · August 2015

@UrQuan PK= Player Killer, basically a player character whose main intention is to kill other players (usually of a lower level) whether it be for profit or just to be a jerk. As in PvP without the alliance system.

Xendyn · August 2015

UrQuan wrote: »

Hmm, to me (and probably any hockey fan) PK = Penalty Kill so I have no idea what's going on in this thread.

Well, there's also:
In Cantonese swearing, sometimes referring to "pok gai", which means trip on a street or fall down because of tripping.

I do that a lot

In this case, tho it's Player Killing.

I don't know that it's anything to even worry about. The last word we had on it was "If/When" the Enforcer system was brought in.
That's a big If.

starlizard70ub17_ESO · August 2015

Yolokin_Swagonborn wrote: »

Don't worry yourselves over a feature that ZOS keeps pushing back and has never committed to a release date for. That is like worrying that spellcrafting will ruin the game now that that is suspended indefinitely.

I'd personally be more worried about dying at a ripe old age of 105 before any of these features actually come out.

At the present developement rate, we'll all be playing ESO3 before many of these features are implimented.