manny254 wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

And dont dare us to go in there and start using lag to our advantage.

The main reason were not doing stuff like dethrone emp or swarm scrolls is that we try to avoid those situations, thus being the main reason we dont focus on the scoreboard anymore or on who's name is written on the emp line.

Why you keep going at us all the time, knowing you will create lag, is beyond my understanding. I guess you want to prove something. Its still funny how we encounter OTHER large forces of OTHER guilds and have epic 50 vs 50 fights lagless. And I have videos to prove it.

Now you can keep going at it Rylana and settle you personnal matter with BKs on public. BUT The day we will have enough though and start doing the lag thing for real, you will freak the *** out.

P.S. dont lecture us on that subjet anymore especially since blinxey is now a member of GoS.

Correction: BKS said he could earn more AP then me if he wanted. Reality: No chance.

Coming from someone who's running double mundus, is awake when BKs is in bed and is a door/wall repair man, your agruements have little meaning to me.

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

And dont dare us to go in there and start using lag to our advantage.

The main reason were not doing stuff like dethrone emp or swarm scrolls is that we try to avoid those situations, thus being the main reason we dont focus on the scoreboard anymore or on who's name is written on the emp line.

Why you keep going at us all the time, knowing you will create lag, is beyond my understanding. I guess you want to prove something. Its still funny how we encounter OTHER large forces of OTHER guilds and have epic 50 vs 50 fights lagless. And I have videos to prove it.

Now you can keep going at it Rylana and settle you personnal matter with BKs on public. BUT The day we will have enough though and start doing the lag thing for real, you will freak the *** out.

P.S. dont lecture us on that subjet anymore especially since blinxey is now a member of GoS.

Correction: BKS said he could earn more AP then me if he wanted. Reality: No chance.

Coming from someone who's running double mundus, is awake when BKs is in bed and is a door/wall repair man, your agruements have little meaning to me.

Well then I suppose I shouldn't repair things? If you are talking about repairing wall after a keep is upgraded that would be a waste of ap for me. Whats funny is all my friends also know that I sleep alot, and most of them make fun of me for it.


I have double mundus because I reached a point where how the developers have handled things has pushed me to a point of callousness about the game. When the first pts update was published with audacity to not have the twiceborn bug and overlord bug fixed I flipped my ***. I went to live and put the bug on in protest because if zos somehow saw it not important enough to hot fix or publish in there first pts patch people needed to use it so they would fix it.

Then of course they have now fixed it in the pts, but the way they have handled it has also made me very very upset.

"ZOS_GinaBruno wrote:

Twice-Born Star: Fixed an issue that was, in rare cases, allowing some player characters to obtain multiple Mundus Boons after losing the set bonus.

RARE CASES??!!!! Are you kidding me ZoS? Like seriously do you all have no idea what is going on??!! Have some transparency with the people who are paying you to make this game.


Here I will show you another example of the patch notes talking about a bug, but ZoS not being open with people about the bug. I posted this in another thread. When I found this bug I reported it as soon as I figured it out, but I was disgusted knowing there where alot of players who had enough cp to encounter this long before I did. ZoS fixed this in a reasonable amount of time from me having someone send them this video, but the patch notes almost ignored the fact it existed.

To explain it a bit. If you had the cp passive last stand died, you got the major heroism buff constantly after you rezed until you died again. For those that don't know this meant you got a constant ultimate regen. I tested it and it worked on more than just one character, and the worst part if this bug happened without the player even trying to make it happen.

manny254 wrote: »

I have a fun one that I reported a while ago. This bug was already patched, but I will give you the patch notes then show you what the actual bug was.

From: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/191859/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-0-13#latest

Last Stand: Fixed an issue where this passive was not correctly granting Ultimate when triggered.

What was really happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJiijvVZBig

Takllin wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

And dont dare us to go in there and start using lag to our advantage.

The main reason were not doing stuff like dethrone emp or swarm scrolls is that we try to avoid those situations, thus being the main reason we dont focus on the scoreboard anymore or on who's name is written on the emp line.

Why you keep going at us all the time, knowing you will create lag, is beyond my understanding. I guess you want to prove something. Its still funny how we encounter OTHER large forces of OTHER guilds and have epic 50 vs 50 fights lagless. And I have videos to prove it.

Now you can keep going at it Rylana and settle you personnal matter with BKs on public. BUT The day we will have enough though and start doing the lag thing for real, you will freak the *** out.

P.S. dont lecture us on that subjet anymore especially since blinxey is now a member of GoS.

Correction: BKS said he could earn more AP then me if he wanted. Reality: No chance.

Coming from someone who's running double mundus, is awake when BKs is in bed and is a door/wall repair man, your agruements have little meaning to me.

Well then I suppose I shouldn't repair things? If you are talking about repairing wall after a keep is upgraded that would be a waste of ap for me. Whats funny is all my friends also know that I sleep alot, and most of them make fun of me for it.


I have double mundus because I reached a point where how the developers have handled things has pushed me to a point of callousness about the game. When the first pts update was published with audacity to not have the twiceborn bug and overlord bug fixed I flipped my ***. I went to live and put the bug on in protest because if zos somehow saw it not important enough to hot fix or publish in there first pts patch people needed to use it so they would fix it.

Then of course they have now fixed it in the pts, but the way they have handled it has also made me very very upset.

"ZOS_GinaBruno wrote:

Twice-Born Star: Fixed an issue that was, in rare cases, allowing some player characters to obtain multiple Mundus Boons after losing the set bonus.

RARE CASES??!!!! Are you kidding me ZoS? Like seriously do you all have no idea what is going on??!! Have some transparency with the people who are paying you to make this game.


Here I will show you another example of the patch notes talking about a bug, but ZoS not being open with people about the bug. I posted this in another thread. When I found this bug I reported it as soon as I figured it out, but I was disgusted knowing there where alot of players who had enough cp to encounter this long before I did. ZoS fixed this in a reasonable amount of time from me having someone send them this video, but the patch notes almost ignored the fact it existed.

To explain it a bit. If you had the cp passive last stand died, you got the major heroism buff constantly after you rezed until you died again. For those that don't know this meant you got a constant ultimate regen. I tested it and it worked on more than just one character, and the worst part if this bug happened without the player even trying to make it happen.

manny254 wrote: »

I have a fun one that I reported a while ago. This bug was already patched, but I will give you the patch notes then show you what the actual bug was.

From: http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/191859/pc-mac-patch-notes-v2-0-13#latest

Last Stand: Fixed an issue where this passive was not correctly granting Ultimate when triggered.

What was really happening

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJiijvVZBig

Sorry but there is no justification for knowingly using an exploit. Yeah their response was *** to it, but that doesn't give you an excuse to go and exploit it.

I can respect that opinion, but frankly I am to the point where I am over the edge.

Edit: It is not even an issue of the small buff it gives to me. It is a matter of protest and principle.

Stacking grps is what zenimax wants for this games pvp to be.

They´re nerfing every playstyle apart from the big grps reigning supreme since 1.4 and they get buffed directly or indirectly ever since.

Takllin wrote: »

A protest would be unsubbing and/or quitting the game until they fix it. Exploiting is exploiting despite your justification for it.

Which is what i did today. I washed my hands of this mess. Its absurd this is even allowed to go on at all.

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

Rylana wrote: »

Wait what, I run with Meth on Azuras now?

Lol ive been to azuras a grand total of twice in the last month and one of those times I was on my blue.

Sorry red but youre just slinging now, youll find me usually in a 12 - 16 man GoS group on Haderus or Thornblade, I avoid AZ like the plague because of lag zergs and have for a long time. Once in a while we might coordinate a ring push on Had or somewhere with Nexus but most of the time they keep very much to themselves as we do.

Allied guilds =/= the same guild. Unlike yours we dont need 3 in house raids to accomplish anything. Hell my emp run on haderus just 2 weeks ago crowned me with a 14 man group. Whens the last time you did anything with 14 people. (I still remember your guild coming to haderus to try to dethrone me, coming oh so close, and being utterly obliterated by half your numbers at BRK once we called in some people to shut down the massive wall of humanity. Yeah we had to call in help just to get HALF your numbers.

Three raids of TKO could not depose me. 1 raid of Vehemence could. That should tell you where your skill level as a guild lies.

Like me, youre too good for that guild. unlike me, you didnt see the forest for the trees before you became a joke along with them. I tried to help you, to get you out, but for whatever reason you want to sit in the middle of 70 guys spamming abilities and farming AP at a rate of 5k/hour blaming everyone but yourselves for the horrid lag.

You guys werent even on my radar until you guested onto a small campaign again and caused craploads of lag for everyone. I dont care what you do on AZ or wherever youre homed. But coming to Haderus and flooding our server with your trash is where I draw the line of calling you out again on your bull.

We see gos' raidleader run with meths grp all the time along woth other gos members.

Your 12-16 man grp? we see it, around 1-2 24 men groups usually in haderus also.

You know whats the main difference between us though? We do it only 3 nights a week, rest of the time were split on 2-6 unorganized gank groups. You guys (GoS) however, are in or around zergballs everytime. Except when out of prime time... But I guess to stomping grps of 2-3 players with your 12-16 man grp is reeeeeally impressive.

When we bust a server with 12 or so people from a homed population of unknown size, any given encounter could see gank strength or raid strength.

The difference is we dont need 50 people to take on raid strength, even vs the strongest guilds, provided its just them, even numbers will suffice usually for a good fight.

We dont need 50 people to take an empty keep, or try to resource farm at glademist, or defend nikel.

it was the argument I kept slamming at you all in TS that whole last month before I left TKO. And now im doing it for real because you guys didnt have the balls to try. 12 people taking things from others regardless of how hard they tried to defend. Hell we find ourselves taking Alessia and Chalman (the bane of TKO's existence) from 20+ people with half that number all of the time. 10 percent success rate my ass.

I mean, would you like a video of three GoS members (later four, im not in it though, sadface, i was offline) taking brindle from about 12 players?

You seriously dont get it do you...

Final thought - Our raid leads are Zazeer, Clerod, and sometimes PuG Shellshock lately. Whoever you saw with meth is either not in GoS or on their own time.

manny254 wrote: »

JDar wrote: »

oh whatever. lag, exploiters, cool game zos. (not going to start exploiting despite my frustration, that would be disrespectful to non-cheaters and unethical)

In response to your original post. Anger is not a rational emotion, and now that they have fixed it on the pts I have removed it. I had planned to get rid of it when if they fixed it on pts, but had not done so because of my anger at the patch notes. Overall I can't care about anything people think of me anymore. I get whispered multiple times a day getting blamed for a whole range of things. After a while it gets old and I have lost the willingness to care anymore. It would seem anything AD does or does not do is somehow my fault or Crown's fault. For example I sat afk when I logged on this morning. I looked and I had a random tell from some person I do not know with essentially complaining about an AD zerg, and calling me childish things.

Honestly venting my built up anger today has made me feel significantly better.

@manny254 Im bummed i missed you and didn't get a chance to say goodbye. I wanted to thank you for all the fun times we had in Thornblade, and for you taking the time help some of my friends with their builds and the mini-duels. I appreciate it and i know they do to.

You know i have always thought of you and your guild very highly, i understand your frustrations with the game all to well, and we all have different ways of dealing with it. you removed your Mundas Stone on your all, no one is perfect, you owned up to it, and did the right thing. Good job on you!

You take care of yourself Manny, its been an honor to know such a great person! You take care of yourself i may be back someday, who knows, but until then i wish you and yours all the best!

RinaldoGandolphi wrote: »

manny254 wrote: »

JDar wrote: »

oh whatever. lag, exploiters, cool game zos. (not going to start exploiting despite my frustration, that would be disrespectful to non-cheaters and unethical)

In response to your original post. Anger is not a rational emotion, and now that they have fixed it on the pts I have removed it. I had planned to get rid of it when if they fixed it on pts, but had not done so because of my anger at the patch notes. Overall I can't care about anything people think of me anymore. I get whispered multiple times a day getting blamed for a whole range of things. After a while it gets old and I have lost the willingness to care anymore. It would seem anything AD does or does not do is somehow my fault or Crown's fault. For example I sat afk when I logged on this morning. I looked and I had a random tell from some person I do not know with essentially complaining about an AD zerg, and calling me childish things.

Honestly venting my built up anger today has made me feel significantly better.

@manny254 Im bummed i missed you and didn't get a chance to say goodbye. I wanted to thank you for all the fun times we had in Thornblade, and for you taking the time help some of my friends with their builds and the mini-duels. I appreciate it and i know they do to.

You know i have always thought of you and your guild very highly, i understand your frustrations with the game all to well, and we all have different ways of dealing with it. you removed your Mundas Stone on your all, no one is perfect, you owned up to it, and did the right thing. Good job on you!

You take care of yourself Manny, its been an honor to know such a great person! You take care of yourself i may be back someday, who knows, but until then i wish you and yours all the best!

I wish you the same Rinaldo, and I hope that if you come back I would still be playing.

LOL at BKs sniping at Mojican...I fight him on the daily, ppl who do know he is not a wall repairing scrub and at least he doesn't have to run around trying to WB from steath until he gets popped and runs away. Also Mojican is taken very seriously by DC because he is a feared player by ppl and at the head of the leaderboards for AD constantly..I bet most ppl don't know who BKs is. I do bc he has tried multiple times to WB stealth me when I've been solo looking at a map or chatting with my wife.

houimetub17_ESO wrote: »

GRxKnight wrote: »

Inb4 "we play how we want and we don't care what anyone else thinks of us"... I seriously got that tell from one of their members a couple weeks ago after experiencing the same ***...Good thing we left said guild Ry

butthurt still?

No red I'm not butthurt...I'm actually enjoying the game I'm playing, which is more than I can say when I was with TKO towards the end there. Decibel likes to max out at most 24 man groups, although we prefer 16 man groups because AP is better. I agree with Rylana with everything he's been saying in regards to TKO. We were both officers and tried countless times to stop the multi-raid BS that we were doing. It was clear to me Glarin and Rylana that it wasn't everyone's favorite red guild that was causing lag, it was TKO with their purge spam every second and every other particle effect that they spammed for no good reason.

It's really laughable at the fact that you guys NEED to run with 3 groups just to be the slightest competitive. I remember a time back in the early TKO days or BDG days that wasn't the case. Ever since Dawnbreaker ended, TKO declined into one of the worst guilds AD has to offer. There's a reason we all left and the slow decline into utter humiliation of the guild was too much for us. Like Rylana said, you could have left and saved yourself from all of this and did a lot better elsewhere.