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What Faction is strongest Lorewise?

Arandear
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Hey all, so as the title says... In ESO which Faction inevitably is the strongest, involve Wealth, Military, Politics, Economy and so fourth. Also what Faction goes on to last the longest, I remember somewhere someone said AD stays together but EP Splits as does DC eventually. Anyway let me know what you think.
Edited by Arandear on August 21, 2015 4:25AM

What Faction is strongest Lorewise? 205 votes

AD
44%
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EP
15%
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DC
10%
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I like Peanuts.
28%
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  • PBpsy
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    I like Peanuts.
    Peanuts ftw.
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  • Arandear
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    I like Peanuts.
    Guarantee the Peanut option will get more votes than the rest lol, still worth putting it in there though. ;)
  • UrQuan
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    I like Peanuts.
    I really wanted to take a legitimate stab at answering this... But I do like peanuts. A lot.
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  • Farorin
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    Peanuts are annoying.

    AD I think is the strongest insofar as the allegiances are concerned as khajiiti and bosmer have a lot in common and rarely seem to disagree on much aside from the occasional fight over the green pact. High elves are snooty ass-hats though, but they aren't necessary.

    Insofar as military might is concerned, the bosmer are crazy good at war. Like literally crazy. Insane. I wouldn't want to fight an enraged bosmer. As far as Khajiiti are concerned, they make great warriors, and are great at stealth as well.

    If crap hits the fan, the bosmer have also always got the "self destruct" plan, of all of them shifting and turning feral, thus repelling and destroying almost any force.
  • Scyantific
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    I like Peanuts.
    None of them are.

    AD - Falls apart once Aerynn is gone
    DC - Falls apart once Emeric dies or Faharaj'ad runs out of daughters/sisters to marry off and the Orcs wake up
    EP - They hate each other and only did it because it was convenient to all three parties.
  • Loomis
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    Scyantific wrote: »
    None of them are.

    AD - Falls apart once Aerynn is gone
    DC - Falls apart once Emeric dies or Faharaj'ad runs out of daughters/sisters to marry off and the Orcs wake up
    EP - They hate each other and only did it because it was convenient to all three parties.


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  • Araxleon
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    I like Peanuts.
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  • milesrodneymcneely2_ESO
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    EP
    Ebonheart Pact for three reasons:
    1: Almalexia
    2: Sotha Sil
    3: Vivec
  • pepperybrine
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    I like Peanuts.
    I'm an elephant, but I think that ad or dc is the strongest, but i like Ep the most!
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  • UrQuan
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    I like Peanuts.
    Ebonheart Pact for three reasons:
    1: Almalexia
    2: Sotha Sil
    3: Vivec
    Pfft, those jumped-up Chimer magicians masquerading as gods aren't worth Peanuts!!!!

    :p
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  • PBpsy
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    I like Peanuts.
    In the end all alliances are screwed by the fact that all the political figures are pointless weak figureheads. In the end the real power is in the hands of a continuous stream of mostly vampire, magic peanut point collecting, false emperors.

    Edited by PBpsy on August 21, 2015 6:45AM
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  • AngryNord
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    DC have the goal to reunite the empire, so they win in the end when Tiber Septim appears.
  • Stranglehands
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    All three of them are made up of nations who have never been able to get along - I think one thing the lore is fairly clear on is that it takes a supernatural conquering force (in the form of Tiber Septim) to get them to settle down. You've probably got to think of the failure modes-

    DC: The bretons are supposed to be plagued by infighting between the various aristocrats and their politics is general feudalistic chaos, so King Emeric probably had a pretty huge sword of Damocles over his head before he even got involved with the redguards. Like, the dark brotherhood probably know all the secret passages in his castle inside out. With the redguards you've got a ready made civil war due to the long-standing crown and forbear factions, and they're proud and independent so probably bear the idea of being ruled by a breton king very heavily. The diplomatic marriage is a good idea but it's just one assassination away from catastrophic failure. As for the orcs, it's only a matter of time before they lose interest in fighting for people who hate them, and I don't they could ever be relied on really. On the other hand they're unlikely to be a loose cannon if they do leave. Overall strength rating: 3/5

    AD: Altmer live a long time. They don't work like humans, and just aren't impressed by the stuff Ayrenn achieves during her reign. Those deeds just serve to impress the khajiit and bosmer, who are effectively like animals to them because their lives are so comparatively short and violent. Veiled heritance aside, Ayrenn is probably going to be merely tolerated by her fellow altmer for hundreds of years to come. But then again, altmer live a long time so their real political processes take place over centuries rather than years, and they're very good at hiding their strength instead of making a great display of temporal power. I would expect they would fall away from the alliance because they're just not interested in making a play for mainland Tamriel unless they've already seen to it that victory is inevitable (which is what happens in the 4th Era). On the other hand, Summerset isn't under threat from anyone else, it's effectively impregnable. Again it took a supernatural fluke in the form of Tiber Septim for that impregnability to fail.
    Whether the other two stay in line depends entirely on whether the altmer keep them in line; they're naturally enemies to each other and to co-operation with other races in general. They would probably not stand up for long against a concerted assault from a powerful foe, the inhospitability of their homelands notwithstanding. Overall strength rating: 4/5

    EP: Doomed. The nords and dunmer are both more likely to succeed alone than as an alliance, whereas the argonians aren't really the conquering type - I mean, at the end of the day, they are very much like plants, occupying the areas where they can live comfortably, prudently driving out unfriendly competition and just not feeling the need to expand en masse. Neither, really, are the Dunmer - their whole identity is built around living where nobody else would want to live, and being essentially impossible to conquer on a cultural level (for example, do house Telvanni in any way resemble imperial citizens in Morrowind?) The nords do have a history and culture of conquest, but it's always been on their own terms. In a territorial war, either victory or defeat in any measure would surely fatally fracture the alliance and all three races would turn on each other. Overall strength rating: 1/5
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  • Enodoc
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    Loomis wrote: »
    Scyantific wrote: »
    None of them are.

    AD - Falls apart once Aerynn is gone
    DC - Falls apart once Emeric dies or Faharaj'ad runs out of daughters/sisters to marry off and the Orcs wake up
    EP - They hate each other and only did it because it was convenient to all three parties.
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  • TheBonesXXX
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    I like Peanuts.
    They're all strong, they all have their downsides.

  • Dracane
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    The Aldmeri Dominion of course.
    Why are there any doubts ? The Aldmeri Dominion is the most stable, wisest and organized alliance. And their homelands are protected by nature itself and are almost impossible to counquer. Elsweyr maybe not thaaat much. But Valenwood and especially Summerset Isle.
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  • Alucardo
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    You made this poll really hard, because I freaking love peanuts. While I only play DC, I did go through the other alliance quests during Cadwell's Gold and Silver. I kind of found the EP full of nostalgia if I'm totally honest. References to the three, political issues, Ash Mountain, Bull Netches, giant mushrooms, kagouti, nix hounds, whiterun, ivarstead, riften.. I was basically foaming at the mouth.
  • Kuroinu
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    AD
    The Thalmor gonna take over the world or already will have in TES: VI. The Thalmeri Dominion!
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  • KiraTsukasa
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    None of them are stronger, which is why we have a three way deadlock going on right now. If one of them was stronger, the other two would either band together and wipe them out, or the stronger faction would sweep the other two and control all of Tamriel and the game would be pointless.
  • Rex-Umbra
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    This poll is so flawed because probably no one voting has read any of the lorebooks. I read the lorebooks and listen to the quests and AD is the worst and DC is the best and EP in the middle.
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  • MudcrabsRus
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  • Rosveen
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    This poll is so flawed because probably no one voting has read any of the lorebooks. I read the lorebooks and listen to the quests and AD is the worst and DC is the best and EP in the middle.
    Care to provide a more detailed explanation why the Covenant is the strongest political entity?
  • Techlisp
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    I like Peanuts.
    Especially those peanuts that have been sitting in a dish in a bar all week.
    This post will not take you an unusually long time to read.

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  • Rev Rielle
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    This poll is so flawed because probably no one voting has read any of the lorebooks. I read the lorebooks and listen to the quests and AD is the worst and DC is the best and EP in the middle.

    I agree. I personally think, from knowing what lore I do, that the Daggerfall Covanant across the board of the three races are clearly the strongest alliance when put together. One just has to look at Redguards and Orcs, those two races above the others basically have their daily-society more intimately built on warfare than any other. And they're in the same alliance.
    Edited by Rev Rielle on August 21, 2015 1:03PM
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  • demendred
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    I like Peanuts.
    The peanut is neither a pea, nor a nut.



    Oh wait, it is a nut......
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  • Egonieser
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    Having played the entire game on 4 chars, i personally think AD is the weakest. Not maybe the faction as such, but the leader Ayrenn is the weakest link. There are very few that actually respect her, she has to almost force the respect on them or buy it. She doesn't seem as strong and charismatic as the other leaders. She seems more unsure if what she's doing is right, plus she is young and inexperienced and got the throne in a very dodgy manner, which made her many enemies within her own ranks, not counting the problems they have to openly deal with.

    Sure EP and AD have their quarrels and issues within, but they seem to respect their leaders, they are confident that the leader's judgement is sound and trustworthy, even if they don't particularly get along with each other on the inside, they would put it aside, because let's face it. Nords and Dunmer hate each other... But they hate Altmer more. (An example), because 2 pompous races will not tolerate each other.

    Just my take on it from experience and perception, i might be wrong.
    Edited by Egonieser on August 21, 2015 1:13PM
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  • Selique
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    EP, based on their races.

    Even though the Pact is fragile due to the races not being very tolerant of each other, they do have some of the best warriors in Tamriel. Jorun appears to be a very competent King, and the other races seem to have respect for him.

    The Nords, and their long history of conquest. They did conquer all of Northern Tamriel under Ysgrammor. They love battle, and have the size and strength to be dangerous opponents. Plus, their Skald-King is leading the charge.

    The Dunmer are powerful mages, and have a martial culture. They also have 3 living "God-Kings" with the power from the Heart of Lhorkan, and they defeated the Akiviri invasion (with help from the Argonians).

    The Argonians are certified badasses. They're Shellback warriors and Shadowscales are forces to be feared. They're also the only race to invade Oblivion during the Oblivion crisis. They may appear peaceful, but they are skilled guerrilla fighters, and have the will to remain free of chains.
    Edited by Selique on August 21, 2015 1:46PM
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  • Dekkameron
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    Selique wrote: »
    The Nords, and their long history of conquest. They did conquer all of Tamriel under Ysgrammor. They love battle, and have the size and strength to be dangerous opponents. Plus, their Skald-King is leading the charge.

    ALL of Tamriel you say? Er.. No.

    Joruun Skald-King not only sounds like he's had a nasty stroke, but is a weak minded buffoon!

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  • Selique
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    Dekkameron wrote: »
    Selique wrote: »
    The Nords, and their long history of conquest. They did conquer all of Tamriel under Ysgrammor. They love battle, and have the size and strength to be dangerous opponents. Plus, their Skald-King is leading the charge.

    ALL of Tamriel you say? Er.. No.

    Joruun Skald-King not only sounds like he's had a nasty stroke, but is a weak minded buffoon!

    You're right, my mistake. All of Northern Tamriel. http://www.uesp.net/wiki/Lore:Nord
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  • Lightninvash
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    the queen is obviously the boss of the other 2 B)
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