A player can cancel the animation of Focus Aim, and get 2-3 off before the first one hits depending on travel time.

Also there is a buggy interaction with the increased distance a player can be hit part of the skill. Basically even if a player travels behind cover or well out of range before projectiles reached them. They will still register if the projectiles were qued up at the player, while they were effected by Focus Aim and within range.

All of these things look very spooky when latency is involved as well.

Oh, and for the record there are marco controllers out there. They can be programmed to send the input of more than one button press. However it is rare to actually see one being used. They don't work with every game, and even programming them is not always simple. They aren't exactly offical, licensed products, and most of the time their GUI is not user friendly, point and click operation.

dday3six wrote: »

A player can cancel the animation of Focus Aim

No. They can't. It has a cast time.

Macros? Useless in elder scrolls.
It has been said time and time again, by people with the know-how.
But I will repeat it. USELESS. You would nerf yourself by using them.

There are times in PvP where I have to SPAM reflective plate as a barrage of focused aim hits me and I expect it to be 4-5 people using it. Turns out when I do find them it is one nightblade. I also have been told people can AC.

@Ethaniel maybe you can answer my question: Are Harness Magicka and Hardened Ward on the same gcd?

crytantrevors wrote: »

Learn to play, there is not one class that is effing god mode im really getting sick of you people trying to get everything nerfed... The classes are all balanced and force you to battle diferent ways. Plus they extensivly playtested the game mechanics for pvp internally.. Everything is how they want it to be and if your getting one shotted in cyrodill you should not be running around with 10k health... Yea focused aim hits hard but each class has their high output damage ability. I just wish for once there was an mmorpg dev team out there would officialy announce suck it up and deal with it cause its working how we made it. Instead of nerfing everything cause crappy players dont learn how to play and just whine till everything gets nerfed into oblivion... This games pvp is perfect as is leave it be. If you cant handle it go play counter strike or minecraft

best troll post ever)))

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

When you assume people don't use macros, you empower the macro users.

Oh god. There is no end.

Macros
Have
No
Use
In
ESO.

- PvPer since launch 80+ IG days played.

You don't need to have played any time in-game to know that a computers automation of key presses will certainly be more accurately timed than a human being poking at a keyboard.

Can a human player learn the timing and make macros useless to them, sure, but that doesn't remove the use of macros for the other 90% of players who haven't learned the timing, or people who are just not very competent at pressing the buttons quickly.

crytantrevors wrote: »

Learn to play, there is not one class that is effing god mode im really getting sick of you people trying to get everything nerfed... The classes are all balanced and force you to battle diferent ways. Plus they extensivly playtested the game mechanics for pvp internally.. Everything is how they want it to be and if your getting one shotted in cyrodill you should not be running around with 10k health... Yea focused aim hits hard but each class has their high output damage ability. I just wish for once there was an mmorpg dev team out there would officialy announce suck it up and deal with it cause its working how we made it. Instead of nerfing everything cause crappy players dont learn how to play and just whine till everything gets nerfed into oblivion... This games pvp is perfect as is leave it be. If you cant handle it go play counter strike or minecraft

Nice post about class balance and such, read the first line couldn't be bothered with the rest.

But bow isn't a class skill line.

briandivisionb16_ESO wrote: »

badmojo wrote: »

When you assume people don't use macros, you empower the macro users.

Oh god. There is no end.

Macros
Have
No
Use
In
ESO.

- PvPer since launch 80+ IG days played.

You can't argue with the tin foil brigade my friend. One a hat, always a hat.

Leandor wrote: »

@Ethaniel maybe you can answer my question: Are Harness Magicka and Hardened Ward on the same gcd?

If you're using harness magicka against snipes you're wasting resources. Best defence is hardened ward and CPs in bastion, followed by dodge rolling once or twice. After that, the sniper is exposed and you can smack velocious curse on them to keep them out of stealth.

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

You can't argue with the tin foil brigade my friend. One a hat, always a hat.

What? Macros aren't a conspiracy theory. They exist and plenty of people use them. They are against ZOS rules as they are essentially automating the game.

It doesn't matter if the same thing can be accomplished with your hands, using macros is being done in ESO.

I'd love to have a real debate about this subject, but it seems like you guys never want to go into depth with it, you just make bold claims and provide nothing to back it up.

Sithisvoid wrote: »

Happens on console too so calm down macro accusers. It's lag. Plain old, simple lag

it's likely worse on pc, lag + macro

dap_robertb16_ESO wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

@Ethaniel maybe you can answer my question: Are Harness Magicka and Hardened Ward on the same gcd?

If you're using harness magicka against snipes you're wasting resources. Best defence is hardened ward and CPs in bastion, followed by dodge rolling once or twice. After that, the sniper is exposed and you can smack velocious curse on them to keep them out of stealth.

I have heard in West Africa, there was an illness going around that could kill you.

There, now I also wrote something completely unasked, out of context and so well known that even Doorknob McRedneck of Bumtown, Idaho, knew about it.

Please don't answer my questions with something this completely unrelated, assuming I would need that kind of basic information.

Increase the travel time of Focused Aim. Make it instant after the channel time.

You are completely drawing your bow.....

This way you will get hit once, then have 1.1 second's to react to the 2nd one (lag not included )

badmojo wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Goldie wrote: »

Macro users.

And again another accusation of macro.......
The fact that I get reported everyday for macro usage since I started playing stam NB is a proff that people are never willing to accept that they died, and will always look for an excuse. The only acceptable excuse is that this game has terrible balance, not OMG he's a macro user.

And for the 156546352132165421 th time, macros can't bypass internal game cooldowns.

Typical situation where people think I use macros :

focused aim, crit charge, light attack, surprise attack.

All hit in less than a second because : focused aim has a travel time, during which i cast crit charge, the internal skill cooldown start when I cast crit charge, not when it hits, so I can instantly do a light attack and cancel the animation with a surprise attack when I reach my target, and voila, 4 different skills hit at the same time. Add camo hunter and weapon enchant procs and 5+ different attacks on recap in less than a sec = OMG macro user

What's your point? Because you're not a macro user, that means everyone who was ever been accused of using macros are innocent? Because you've learned how to land multiple attacks at once, that means nobody else resorts to using macros?

When you assume people don't use macros, you empower the macro users. If you're not personally being accused, why the heck are you defending some random person who is? How can you assume to know what other people are doing or in this case, not doing?

You bring up a valid point about being able to do crazy stuff without using macros, but that's like saying people can be good without cheats, it's true, but it doesn't mean every good player doesn't cheat.

My point is that macros do not give players an advantage that they couldn't get by themselves. Yes, if someone sucks, he will benefit from macros and bypass the skill requirement to achieve whatever animation cancelling he was attempting.

So when I see people claiming that macros allows for 6 SKILLS (not light attacks or bashes, skills) to be fired in one second, It annoys me because they don't know what they are talking about, and if there's one thing I don't like, it's clueless people that are loud on the forums. Because they are the ones yelling for uncalled nerfs when they don't know how to deal with a situation.

I know some people use macros, I know some who've tried them, I know some who still use them, and it's not the overwhelming majority of players, but yeah they exist I'm not denying it.

Yet people seem to think every other player is a macro user, and tons of people get reported every day when they haven't done anything wrong. Yesterday again I was accused of macro usage after 15 min of playing...

TL:DR Macros are cheating and should be punished, but not everyone who gets reported is a macro user, and they don't give an overwhelming advantage to whoever uses them, since anyone can do it manually. So stop complaining about macros and let the devs figure out how to deal with them.