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Is the EU team scaling down ?

Dahkoht
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Just seems odd unless the console pop isn't as large as expected or dropping off faster than expected.

http://massivelyop.com/2015/08/19/rumor-more-layoffs-for-zenimax/#respond

  • JamilaRaj
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    Or they just fixed the issue with several days delay before purchased crowns appeared in-game, so they do not need a hundred of CS employees to apologize to angry whales. Must have been horribly expensive glitch. The programmer should have been let go too.
  • Pallmor
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    They're not layoffs. They're an unexpected employee surplus.
  • Mighty_oakk
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    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority
  • Dahkoht
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    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.
  • uriangelub17_ESO
    Honestly, nothing makes me won't to play this game.
    I really like the lore, the graphics, but the game is a huge single player game, which kills the play with others aspect until you reach high levels, I don't know.

    I didn't feel engaged enough, maybe it's me, whok nows.
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    Source on those numbers?
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  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    The top comment on the article pretty much sums it up:
    My sympathy to those affected, assuming the rumours are true.

    It takes a lot less people to maintain a game once it has been developed or had its initial conversion to a different platform. It's the norm for companies to take on a lot of staff (often contractors rather than employees) in the run up to launch or conversion and then lay a fair few of them off soon after. That's true not just in relation to the development team but also the community support team too.

    That may be what this is about, which won't stop ESO's haters from claiming it underlines their trolling that the game is dying. I believe that to be far from the truth, both from the number of players in-game and also the increase in forum activity. I was looking the other day for an update on a post from earlier the same day and had to go back 5 pages to find it, and that wasn't the first page with that day's posts on it. The game is very much alive.
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  • Mighty_oakk
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    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    Source on those numbers?

    Its in your trophy achievments on psn.

    All the psn achievments have the % of players who have received the achievment on ps.

    Another fun one is 2% of players have completed their starting factions 5 dungeons.
  • P3ZZL3
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    I'd like to think that @ZOS_GinaBruno could shed some light?

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  • Masuimi
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    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.
  • ThatNeonZebraAgain
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    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    Source on those numbers?

    Its in your trophy achievments on psn.

    All the psn achievments have the % of players who have received the achievment on ps.

    Another fun one is 2% of players have completed their starting factions 5 dungeons.

    Interesting, don't play console so I wasn't aware of that.
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  • Mighty_oakk
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    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.

    Meant the main questline lvl 30 requirement quest
  • frenchyuk86
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    Can you merge the servers on consoles now please.
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  • Elsonso
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    P3ZZL3 wrote: »
    I'd like to think that @ZOS_GinaBruno could shed some light?

    Not her job to shed light on this.
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  • Dahkoht
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    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?
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    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I'm testing that now. And it appears to be possible. I might have to do the final quest when I get to 50. But so far, as I go from area to area, they act like I've done the prior quests.
    Quasim ibn-Muhammad - VR 12 Redguard Dragon Knight
    Taladriel Vanima - VR 5 Altmer Nightblade
    Ambalyo iyo Bogaadin - VR 1 Redguard Sorceror
  • Mighty_oakk
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    wraith808 wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I'm testing that now. And it appears to be possible. I might have to do the final quest when I get to 50. But so far, as I go from area to area, they act like I've done the prior quests.

    I bet you technically could. Grinding coldharbour for vrs sounds rough though
  • frenchyuk86
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    Can you merge the servers on consoles now please.

    God no. Then we'd have to deal with you a******* 'Mericans. Won't even play on NA any longer.
    I'm English and play on the eu...however eu is dead!
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  • Dahkoht
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    DenMoria wrote: »
    Can you merge the servers on consoles now please.

    God no. Then we'd have to deal with you a******* 'Mericans. Won't even play on NA any longer.
    I'm English and play on the eu...however eu is dead!

    Honestly wondered if this might be a sign of a large dip for the EU server.
  • frenchyuk86
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    Eu is massively behind the na servers. In terms of numbers especially. Just look at the scoreboards for pve. No one is near sanctum on the ps4 Atleast.

    Need to merge the two servers or just cut of the EU. Deadweight.
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  • Malediktus
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    I am not suprised consoles are doing badly. No text chat. No addons.
    Especially having no addons makes the game annoying to play because you lack so many vital things without addons. Zenimax should look at the best/most popular addons and include them in their game.
    Edited by Malediktus on August 20, 2015 1:25AM
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  • Darlgon
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    Dahkoht wrote: »

    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    Level 10. Go to Cyrodiil. Never come back. I have a guildie who has done it .. four times? five times?
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • markt84
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    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I leveled 10-v1 all in PvP. My buddy is level 24 right now and hasn't played PvE since level 10. A lot of people that play PvP have done very little PvE
  • Darlgon
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    BTW, soon after ESO launched. Massively ran a similar article. ZoS called it "repeating an internet rumor" if I remember right. It almost reads like the same rumor, recycled, right up to the part that the center was in Ireland. I read the same rumor about Lotro 4 years ago....
    Power level to CP160 in a week:
    Where is the end game? You just played it.
    Why don't I have 300+ skill points? Because you skipped content along the way.
    Where is new content? Sigh.
  • wraith808
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    wraith808 wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I'm testing that now. And it appears to be possible. I might have to do the final quest when I get to 50. But so far, as I go from area to area, they act like I've done the prior quests.

    I bet you technically could. Grinding coldharbour for vrs sounds rough though

    Why would I have to grind Coldharbour for VRs?
    Quasim ibn-Muhammad - VR 12 Redguard Dragon Knight
    Taladriel Vanima - VR 5 Altmer Nightblade
    Ambalyo iyo Bogaadin - VR 1 Redguard Sorceror
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    Update 08/20/2015 8:04:32 AM EDT: A spokesperson from Bethsoft confirmed customer support layoffs to Massively OP in the following statement: “Following the successful PC and console launches of The Elder Scrolls Online: Tamriel Unlimited, we have a thriving online community and have adjusted customer support to meet the ongoing needs of our players.”

    100℅ PR statement.
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  • Brrrofski
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    Xbox EU is bumping. I see a lot of people about and a lot of veterans too
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    wraith808 wrote: »
    wraith808 wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I'm testing that now. And it appears to be possible. I might have to do the final quest when I get to 50. But so far, as I go from area to area, they act like I've done the prior quests.

    I bet you technically could. Grinding coldharbour for vrs sounds rough though

    Why would I have to grind Coldharbour for VRs?

    If you don't complete the main quest, you can't go to the next faction's area.

    So coldharbour would be the only place to get xp as you'd be too high to get it anywhere else.
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    Brrrofski wrote: »
    wraith808 wrote: »
    wraith808 wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I'm testing that now. And it appears to be possible. I might have to do the final quest when I get to 50. But so far, as I go from area to area, they act like I've done the prior quests.

    I bet you technically could. Grinding coldharbour for vrs sounds rough though

    Why would I have to grind Coldharbour for VRs?

    If you don't complete the main quest, you can't go to the next faction's area.

    So coldharbour would be the only place to get xp as you'd be too high to get it anywhere else.

    Cyrodiil
  • Tankqull
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    wraith808 wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Masuimi wrote: »
    Dahkoht wrote: »
    Well on ps4 20% of players have completed the lvl 30 quest. That doent include everyone who quit after 30...

    But then again its b2p so player retention isnt a priority

    That , that is a low stat. Had no idea it tracked that , much less that low.

    Even just barely playing on and off for a month it's hard not to be over 30 , as 1-50 is extremely fast before the VR levels kick in.

    I'm VR 11 and have only done the main quest line + undaunted. Not sure what you mean by 'the level 30 quest' but I may not have done it either.


    I don't think it's possible to be VR anything and have not done the main questline ?

    I'm testing that now. And it appears to be possible. I might have to do the final quest when I get to 50. But so far, as I go from area to area, they act like I've done the prior quests.

    you can lvl till v2 in coldharbor it´ll then take ages to get to v3 (~20xp per zombi) and next to impossible to gain any further lvls without completing the lvl 50 main quest to proced to cadwell silver/gold areas as your only access to mobs of your lvl would be the dailyquest vet dungeons and cyrodiil dungeons wich can be a pain in the ass to lvl with.
    so you can become v14/16 without completing the mainquest arc but its highly uncommon and nothing the casual player would do.
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    Anything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!"


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