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Video - Cinnamon & Ezareth - Healbot & Fearbot

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I put together a video of some fights Ezareth and I have had with our DC alts recently while duoing. I'm playing a magicka Templar and he is a stamina Nightblade.

No double mundus exploits or stealth ganking found here, but there is plenty of Radiant Oppression. Fear the beam.

Only a few low vet levels were harmed in the making of this video.

Enjoy!

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  • Erondil
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    Very nice vid, good to see some templar smallscale gameplay! But I don't really understand why you use nova, it seems to be a wasted ultimate in most of the situations...
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Erondil wrote: »
    Very nice vid, good to see some templar smallscale gameplay! But I don't really understand why you use nova, it seems to be a wasted ultimate in most of the situations...
    Thanks!

    Out of the ultimates I have unlocked right now, it is actually very useful when outnumbered. The morph I'm using slows enemies down, which is helpful with the 2-4 man groups I'm in normally, along with the damage reduction if we can get them to actually try to fight us in it. I know most use the other morph, but it is so hard to hit the synergy on a nova that it seemed wasteful to me.
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  • Alucardo
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    Nice vid. Made me want to blow the dust off my Templar. Extra points for the music!
  • Iyas
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    Nice vid but why dont you play with repetance for your stam? its most of the time empty and you cant cc break.

    and i always cry a little bit when i see a nb with wb :'(
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    Nice guys!
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  • Cinnamon_Spider
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    Iyas wrote: »
    Nice vid but why dont you play with repetance for your stam? its most of the time empty and you cant cc break.

    and i always cry a little bit when i see a nb with wb :'(
    Repentance is an excellent skill. I just haven't found it useful enough for the kinds of fights we have. It is really useful for keep and scroll fights, but only if every other Templar around you isn't also using it. I do use it for grinding and will probably replace eclipse with repentance for IC. For now, Engine Guardian procs, mist form, potions, and working together are enough for most fights.
    If I could stand the loss of health, I'd just go back to blue magic/stam drinks.

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  • ToRelax
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    Nice video.
    From what I could see, your armor styles were pretty much identical to mine, that made it even better. :blush:
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  • Winnamine
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    See? I knew it! You don't need me to teach you to templar, you've got that down ;)

    Nice vid Cinn <3

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    Nice use of NiN.

    Tough combo! Temp vamp survivability is very high.
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  • Eglath
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    All those WBs made me cry a little...
    Anyway nice vid, looks like you both have fun :)
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    Nice fights.
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    Iyas wrote: »
    and i always cry a little bit when i see a nb with wb :'(
    Eglath wrote: »
    All those WBs made me cry a little...

    I actually thought I had rolled a DK until I was level 30 or so and realized my mistake so I just "rolled" with it. :D

    Seriously though, I've yet to see a logical explanation by any player for me to not use wrecking blow. People usually whisper me saying things like why aren't you using surprise attack and Ambush don't you know it is better? These are usually people I just killed with it.

    I've tried surprise attack and Ambush many times now and each time I try I notice I'm much less effect and end up switching back.

    I think it mainly has to do with my playstyle and how I designed it. I developed my build and playstyle 100% by trial & error and testinging virtually every ability out (except for the siphoning trees which I could care less about other than the ult). I don't think anyone who has fought me recently could honestly say my build isn't effecting in group or solo combat although I often get some hate tells trying to tell me otherwise (again from people I just killed).

    I'd love to see an old school nightblade explain the error of my thinking. I think the fracture from surprise attack is wasted since I'm already using piercing mark on my targets usually and I also don't utilize cloak or stealth at all. Ambush from my experience applies its damage after it hits while crit charge applies the damage at the start of the charge. This is why when I'm fighting another nightblade I can usually crit-charge animation cancel a dodge roll and hit them with it while dodging their own ambush. Wrecking blow and crit charge both benefit from executioner. The primary down side to wrecking blow is the vulnerability it gives you while you're winding it up which leaves you completely exposed and you can't "block-cast" it like surprise attack. When I'm in situations where I need to remain defensive I instead use Deep-slash animation cancelled with a bash which does pretty decent damage and applies AoE Maim and slow to my targets which is very powerful in 2vX scenarios.


    Winnamine wrote: »
    See? I knew it! You don't need me to teach you to templar, you've got that down ;)

    Nice vid Cinn <3

    Tell Ezareth I still owe him a jesus beam. He knows what he did!

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    Hey it was your Jesus-beam while your group zerged me down that brought the righteous fury of wrecking blow spam while you were on that Ballista!

    Personally, I think you're just jealous of how great my ass looks in that dress ( ;
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  • DisgracefulMind
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    Awesome video, Cinn! Love, love, love the song choices :#

    Your templar is so customized to your playstyle, it's great and really shows. You two are an awesome team out there ^_^

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    @Ezareth you look lovely in that dress
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    The thing that makes nova completely amazing IMO is the ability to "throw" it.

    On my templar I can't tell you how many siege clusters i've broken up by simply tossing a nova on them from a keep wall or onto a keep wall from the ground, its so much fun.

    That and you can drop it just in front a zerg and have them run through it as they chase you, snaring the non immune guys and letting you gtfo

    I <3 nova
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    @Ezareth you look lovely in that dress

    Finally some recognition given when due!
    yodased wrote: »
    The thing that makes nova completely amazing IMO is the ability to "throw" it.

    On my templar I can't tell you how many siege clusters i've broken up by simply tossing a nova on them from a keep wall or onto a keep wall from the ground, its so much fun.

    That and you can drop it just in front a zerg and have them run through it as they chase you, snaring the non immune guys and letting you gtfo

    I <3 nova

    Yeah in the world of instant gratification ultimates like Dawnbreaker other ults like Nova are often overlooked. That ult has won so many 2vXs for us in tight spaces especially when combined with a Soul harvest and I can actually get the synergy to work. At very least it allows you a few moments of respite while you stand in it which is often the difference between life and death.



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    Ezareth wrote: »
    @Ezareth you look lovely in that dress

    Finally some recognition given when due!
    yodased wrote: »
    The thing that makes nova completely amazing IMO is the ability to "throw" it.

    On my templar I can't tell you how many siege clusters i've broken up by simply tossing a nova on them from a keep wall or onto a keep wall from the ground, its so much fun.

    That and you can drop it just in front a zerg and have them run through it as they chase you, snaring the non immune guys and letting you gtfo

    I <3 nova

    Yeah in the world of instant gratification ultimates like Dawnbreaker other ults like Nova are often overlooked. That ult has won so many 2vXs for us in tight spaces especially when combined with a Soul harvest and I can actually get the synergy to work. At very least it allows you a few moments of respite while you stand in it which is often the difference between life and death.



    I stopped slotting nova for pvp when it was getting negated more often than not. But now... *taps chin thoughtfully*
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    Reverb wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    @Ezareth you look lovely in that dress

    Finally some recognition given when due!
    yodased wrote: »
    The thing that makes nova completely amazing IMO is the ability to "throw" it.

    On my templar I can't tell you how many siege clusters i've broken up by simply tossing a nova on them from a keep wall or onto a keep wall from the ground, its so much fun.

    That and you can drop it just in front a zerg and have them run through it as they chase you, snaring the non immune guys and letting you gtfo

    I <3 nova

    Yeah in the world of instant gratification ultimates like Dawnbreaker other ults like Nova are often overlooked. That ult has won so many 2vXs for us in tight spaces especially when combined with a Soul harvest and I can actually get the synergy to work. At very least it allows you a few moments of respite while you stand in it which is often the difference between life and death.



    I stopped slotting nova for pvp when it was getting negated more often than not. But now... *taps chin thoughtfully*
    You should definitely try it again. I can only think of one time that someone actually negated it recently. I stopped even slotting negate on my sorcs since it became instant cast because I was frequently hitting that key by accident.
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    Winnamine wrote: »
    See? I knew it! You don't need me to teach you to templar, you've got that down ;)

    Nice vid Cinn <3

    Tell Ezareth I still owe him a jesus beam. He knows what he did!
    Winnie, I still have so much to learn! Teach me how to Templar :)
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    Pretty scary duo. Could easily have been me getting lit up in this vid! *gulp*
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    Winnamine wrote: »
    See? I knew it! You don't need me to teach you to templar, you've got that down ;)

    Nice vid Cinn <3

    Tell Ezareth I still owe him a jesus beam. He knows what he did!
    Winnie, I still have so much to learn! Teach me how to Templar :)

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    Interesting as always. I couldn't tell in that first segment if the opponent templar was "healbotting" his group or not-- if he wasn't and space-time could be warped such that he was, I wonder if any difference could've been seen.

    I saw you guys once around Ash and several of us were chasing around Synaris to no avail. Personally I find it boring to come across healbotty templars. Fear is probably the cheesiest ability in-game as you cannot always break free as quickly as you should be able to, and a well-built NB can easily obliterate light armored targets.

    Can I ask how it is that my frags hit Ezareth's NB for only 1.8k? I don't have the best spell pen but thinking it's more than that.
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    Very nice video! and sometimes you have to kill a few lowbies :smiley:

    I always love when I crit charge someone and look at the name, and I'm like , "Wait that's Cinn's alt!" Sometimes I'm dead by the time I realize it ;P
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    k2blader wrote: »
    Interesting as always. I couldn't tell in that first segment if the opponent templar was "healbotting" his group or not-- if he wasn't and space-time could be warped such that he was, I wonder if any difference could've been seen.

    I saw you guys once around Ash and several of us were chasing around Synaris to no avail. Personally I find it boring to come across healbotty templars. Fear is probably the cheesiest ability in-game as you cannot always break free as quickly as you should be able to, and a well-built NB can easily obliterate light armored targets.
    The only healing I noticed that group doing was Healing Springs. I don't understand Templars that don't want to heal. I love when I come across someone being ganked on their horse and healing them to full only to turn the tide on the would be ganker.

    Healbot and Fearbot are just joke nicknames that we have given to each other. Though my main focus is to keep us both alive and if too many focus me, Ez will use fear. A lot of what I do is keeping control of the opposing group and watching for execute opportunities. From talking to other people that play Templars, most wear a lot of heavy where I'm in 5 light. I should be easy to take down, but I've found my build and style to be very survivable.
    k2blader wrote: »
    Can I ask how it is that my frags hit Ezareth's NB for only 1.8k? I don't have the best spell pen but thinking it's more than that.
    That is something @Ezareth would need to answer, but it is probably a combination of nirn, absorb magic, and blocking.

    Very nice video! and sometimes you have to kill a few lowbies :smiley:

    I always love when I crit charge someone and look at the name, and I'm like , "Wait that's Cinn's alt!" Sometimes I'm dead by the time I realize it ;P
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    k2blader wrote: »
    Interesting as always. I couldn't tell in that first segment if the opponent templar was "healbotting" his group or not-- if he wasn't and space-time could be warped such that he was, I wonder if any difference could've been seen.

    I saw you guys once around Ash and several of us were chasing around Synaris to no avail. Personally I find it boring to come across healbotty templars. Fear is probably the cheesiest ability in-game as you cannot always break free as quickly as you should be able to, and a well-built NB can easily obliterate light armored targets.

    Can I ask how it is that my frags hit Ezareth's NB for only 1.8k? I don't have the best spell pen but thinking it's more than that.

    Many people see those kind of numbers and are quick to blame Nirnhoned for the reduction but it is actually a combination of Nirn, a high amount of CPs into the "Hardy" passive and Blocking with a shield and Absorb magic slotted. The nirnhoned is actually contributing the least to equation.

    Block damage reduction is applied after the resistances are calculated and it is impossible to crit a blocked attack so you're stuck with your base tooltip damage and it is reduced from there. With the 1h/shield passives and defensive posture slotted a blocked attack only does 29% of the damage after resistances. This means your unblocked fragment would have hit me for ~6200 damage. Even with 3 Legendary Nirn pieces my SR is only 22642 although if I've recently cast a shadow ability and dodge rolled this spikes to 33044.

    I mainly rely on Fear when enemies are clumped up on me or around Cinn to apply AoE Maim + CC or if you're targetting someone holding block it is the only way you'll kill them is by damaging them after you fear them before they can break free.

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    Watch Fengrush's twitch for some small scale templar pvp.
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    i love it plz do more vids.
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    Very nice Cinn!!
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    Very entertaining video. You make a nice team :)
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    k2blader wrote: »
    Interesting as always. I couldn't tell in that first segment if the opponent templar was "healbotting" his group or not-- if he wasn't and space-time could be warped such that he was, I wonder if any difference could've been seen.

    I saw you guys once around Ash and several of us were chasing around Synaris to no avail. Personally I find it boring to come across healbotty templars. Fear is probably the cheesiest ability in-game as you cannot always break free as quickly as you should be able to, and a well-built NB can easily obliterate light armored targets.

    Can I ask how it is that my frags hit Ezareth's NB for only 1.8k? I don't have the best spell pen but thinking it's more than that.

    Many people see those kind of numbers and are quick to blame Nirnhoned for the reduction but it is actually a combination of Nirn, a high amount of CPs into the "Hardy" passive and Blocking with a shield and Absorb magic slotted. The nirnhoned is actually contributing the least to equation.

    Block damage reduction is applied after the resistances are calculated and it is impossible to crit a blocked attack so you're stuck with your base tooltip damage and it is reduced from there. With the 1h/shield passives and defensive posture slotted a blocked attack only does 29% of the damage after resistances. This means your unblocked fragment would have hit me for ~6200 damage. Even with 3 Legendary Nirn pieces my SR is only 22642 although if I've recently cast a shadow ability and dodge rolled this spikes to 33044.

    I mainly rely on Fear when enemies are clumped up on me or around Cinn to apply AoE Maim + CC or if you're targetting someone holding block it is the only way you'll kill them is by damaging them after you fear them before they can break free.

    All my warrior points go into Hardy, Elemental Defender, and Thicked Skinned. It's amazing how much my surviability has shot up. Being a vampire I can live through dawnbreaker if I can't block in time.
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    Psilent wrote: »
    Ezareth wrote: »
    k2blader wrote: »
    Interesting as always. I couldn't tell in that first segment if the opponent templar was "healbotting" his group or not-- if he wasn't and space-time could be warped such that he was, I wonder if any difference could've been seen.

    I saw you guys once around Ash and several of us were chasing around Synaris to no avail. Personally I find it boring to come across healbotty templars. Fear is probably the cheesiest ability in-game as you cannot always break free as quickly as you should be able to, and a well-built NB can easily obliterate light armored targets.

    Can I ask how it is that my frags hit Ezareth's NB for only 1.8k? I don't have the best spell pen but thinking it's more than that.

    Many people see those kind of numbers and are quick to blame Nirnhoned for the reduction but it is actually a combination of Nirn, a high amount of CPs into the "Hardy" passive and Blocking with a shield and Absorb magic slotted. The nirnhoned is actually contributing the least to equation.

    Block damage reduction is applied after the resistances are calculated and it is impossible to crit a blocked attack so you're stuck with your base tooltip damage and it is reduced from there. With the 1h/shield passives and defensive posture slotted a blocked attack only does 29% of the damage after resistances. This means your unblocked fragment would have hit me for ~6200 damage. Even with 3 Legendary Nirn pieces my SR is only 22642 although if I've recently cast a shadow ability and dodge rolled this spikes to 33044.

    I mainly rely on Fear when enemies are clumped up on me or around Cinn to apply AoE Maim + CC or if you're targetting someone holding block it is the only way you'll kill them is by damaging them after you fear them before they can break free.

    All my warrior points go into Hardy, Elemental Defender, and Thicked Skinned. It's amazing how much my surviability has shot up. Being a vampire I can live through dawnbreaker if I can't block in time.

    Yup. I won a nice 6 on 1 last night and some Vet 6 was calling me a 600 CP loser (while blocking me so I couldn't even respond). Damage mitigation stacking is pretty sick right now when used properly. Evidently I don't have enough points into Thick Skinned yet because beams still wreck me. You'd think they'd be "Magic" damage and not dots....
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