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With these balance changes you seem 'out of touch' with players

briandivisionb16_ESO
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ZOS, I hope someone on your dev team realises you need a vast and wide communication with players to move forward.
Some of your balance changes I like, but have been very heavy handed and not in line with what needs fixing. e.g. why nerf swallow soul? why not fix cloak? the 50% damage nerf and such.

I think you need a direct line to your players. Devs that have over 50+ days played on their toons. Solo PvPers. Guild PvPers. Non-bombgroup players.
Correct me if I'm wrong ZOS, but do you even have communication with players outside of twitch/forum spam? And /feedback? Could you not benefit from more contact with real REAL players than you would theorycrafting?
Cheers.
If your group is bigger than 6 members gain 75% damage reduction.

Write this on the back of your box and see how many sales you get!

You won't get any new PvP players until this archaic AoE crap is fixed.
I for one won't resub until:
1.) You fix lag.
2.) You remove AOE caps we voted against.
3.) 12 months have passed (this is how long we've waited for you to 'get with it')[/b]
  • Vizier
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    Well they did have a guild summit where they met with ESO's biggest guilds....

    And, as I understand it, they've been communicating with ESO's elite players....


    And just look where it's brought us.... Game is in a terrible state right now IMO and IC isn't going to be an improvement.
  • bugmom
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    Agree - they really need to be more in touch with "average" - and newer players. Elite players don't grow the user base and there are not enough of them to fund the game. They need new players and a mass of average players to do that. And we are the ones who will get bored or find things too difficult or repetitive or whatever and we will leave the game. I've been thinking more and more about it myself.

    There is a whole field of user experience design with so many tools and techniques available to understand their user base better. It just seems like they are not using them...
  • Tandor
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    I'm all for improved player consultation - as long as they don't just listen to PvPers.
  • Molag_Crow
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    Not to sound like a ***, but things get nerfed for a reason (most of the time) so if your favorite ability got nerfed, I understand how frustrating that is but you're not going to achieve anything by trying to communicate/sweet talk with ZOS about a certain ability, are you? -- like what are you going to say or attempt to discuss about certain nerfs? that you personally (out of hundreds of thousands of players) do not like the change and want it reversed or something? Hmm... doesn't work like that so that's why I don't see any point in topics like this, just saying! <3
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  • MrGrimey
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    You think the balance changes make them seem out of touch with the community???

    How about the fact that they said console text chat is not under their "to do" list? Not like anything under their to do list gets done in a timely manner anyways
  • acolyte2475b14_ESO
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    ESO followed a formula instead of a player base and that decision has cost them dearly, they could have had Destiny level of success. In hind sight I think if they could do ESO over it would be "Skyrim with friends". But it is what it is and now they have to make the best of it.
  • madchuska83
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    MrGrimey wrote: »
    You think the balance changes make them seem out of touch with the community???

    How about the fact that they said console text chat is not under their "to do" list? Not like anything under their to do list gets done in a timely manner anyways

    You mean you don't like standing around a Wayshrine yelling "Motifs for sale!"?
  • Sithisvoid
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    Yeah stop listening to the big shots and actually listen to the customers, you know the ones who pay money?
  • timidobserver
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    You are confused. You are the one that is out of touch with ZOS.
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  • Morimizo
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    Vizier wrote: »
    Well they did have a guild summit where they met with ESO's biggest guilds....

    And, as I understand it, they've been communicating with ESO's elite players....


    And just look where it's brought us.... Game is in a terrible state right now IMO and IC isn't going to be an improvement.

    Agreed wholeheartedly. Game is balanced (NERFED--there is NO other option apparently) based on what irritates PVP elites. PVE folks can adjust, suffer, or leave. I continue to adjust, but every single update brings equipment changes (this time new sets, enchantment glyphs, AND traits) and skillbar changes (due to trashed skills) in order to maintain similar stats.

    I would much rather adjust because of a shiny new weapon/world skill-line, or that an existing skill was IMPROVED, but not here.

  • Rex-Umbra
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    I agree ZOS needs to listen to the average players more but how? They do not generally use forums etc and if they don't like the game they stop playing usually and it's too late for ZOS at that point. Maybe they could send out a monthly survey which gives 100 crowns for completing?
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  • Personofsecrets
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    One developer pretty much said cry more to the people that don't want the stamina regeneration nerf despite our tireless feedback.

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    This commemoration is for the class that has constantly been plundered and dismantled by designers for no obvious reason while other classes continue to have coherent skill lines and feel both powerful and cool.
  • Sithisvoid
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    Rex-Umbra wrote: »
    I agree ZOS needs to listen to the average players more but how? They do not generally use forums etc and if they don't like the game they stop playing usually and it's too late for ZOS at that point. Maybe they could send out a monthly survey which gives 100 crowns for completing?

    A lot of the issues ppl leave over have been addressed on the forums dozens of times. The problem is ZOS is too busy listening to ppl with big egos and 8 VR14's to understand their lvl 20 customers are the ones they need to impress. They are the ones leaving in droves the big shots will moan and complain and stay forever no matter what happens.
  • Mitchblue
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    Is there a place where it list balance issues? I haven't been playing long but I see thread after thread about balance issues but no one seems to mention what they are..
    Anyone else rooting for Molag Bal?
  • leepalmer95
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    Instead of just nerfing everything overall they need to actaully listen to the majority of players and not just the 'elites'.

    They need to adjust single skills instead of changing the entire game... , make it dmg penalty if you spam the same skill over and over e.g. 1st/2nd/3rd time doing it, 100%/80%/60%dmg .

    We really don't need an extra 35% dmg reduction, just increae the battle spirit too 10k hp so that puts everyone out of 1 shot range.

    They should definitely separate pvp and pve, 0 stamina regen? not sure why this is needed in the first place theres is a lot of ways to counter perma blocker and end game trials and vdsa requires the tank to not be 1 hit because his block was down.
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