Got a question for you. I suck too much.

Elektrakosh · August 2015

NewBlacksmurf wrote: »

Get a group of 4-10 ppl who are also PvE and join a campaign where your faction seems populated.
Check the map each day and go venturing as a group.

Some are contested while some won't be...good luck

I'm a lonewolf (not by choice) and groups are very hard to find on console.

Azurulia · August 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

Azurulia wrote: »

So go get em! I promise it's not hard, in fact a bit of time in a pvp zone would do most pve players a whole lot of good.

It helps teach and practice situation awareness and the awareness of your surroundings. You'll stand in a lot less fire if you are watching for it like you were a player.

I have to avoid fire alot anyway. Stupid vampires being so flammable! I'll think I'll go soak myself in oil just for s&g.

Well there you go! You're pratically an expert at avoiding things already. Just pretend players are the next level up!

Techlisp · August 2015

Everything is more rewarding if you have to work for it, rather than just, you know being given it.

Elektrakosh · August 2015

Techlisp wrote: »

Everything is more rewarding if you have to work for it, rather than just, you know being given it.

I'm not asking to be given stuff.

Cagro · August 2015

I do not feel sorry for you at all because PVP players are forced to PVE about 90% of the game to obtain all skyshards. I am currently trying to finish Caldwell's silver and then have to do Calwell's Gold. I hate to do this when I can be enjoying PVP. PVE players can just get into a group or stealth in PVP areas. The only skyshards you may have problems getting are the four inside the other factions' gates.

eNumbra · August 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

Techlisp wrote: »

Everything is more rewarding if you have to work for it, rather than just, you know being given it.

I'm not asking to be given stuff.

Really? Because it sounds like you just keep making excuses for why you can't just go get them.

Azurulia · August 2015

Cagro wrote: »

I do not feel sorry for you at all because PVP players are forced to PVE about 90% of the game to obtain all skyshards. I am currently trying to finish Caldwell's silver and then have to do Calwell's Gold. I hate to do this when I can be enjoying PVP. PVE players can just get into a group or stealth in PVP areas. The only skyshards you may have problems getting are the four inside the other factions' gates.

You know... Cagro does have a good point. Some skyshards even require you to do quests to access them.

Reverb · August 2015

Zeni isn't going to respond, nor should they. If you want everything in this game, you have to play all types of content, even the types you don't like.

If there's a type of play you dislike strongly enough, you can decide to forfeit those spoils by not playing it. For you this might be pvp. Others might miss the skill points in group dungeons because they hate group content. And others will choose to level toons in Cyrodiil and skip the shards and points in the silver and gold areas. Suck it up, or skip it, but there's no sense in crying to the devs over it.

Alucardo · August 2015

My advice, just suck it up, go in there and get your shards. If you die, so what? I was skyshard hunting around Cyrodiil, got dismounted by two vets (I was lvl 17 at the time) and 3 hit. Just laughed it off and went back. The difference between you and me? I got the shards.

Elektrakosh · August 2015

So basically I have to "suck it up" eh?

Some helpful community this is. Still, One offer to help me out and three ways of tackling it is better than zero.

I guess its time to let this thread die as "sucking it up" is not very helpful.

Alucardo · August 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

So basically I have to "suck it up" eh?

Some helpful community this is. Still, One offer to help me out and three ways of tackling it is better than zero.

I guess its time to let this thread die as "sucking it up" is not very helpful.

I hope you don't think I'm attacking you. I'm not. I mostly PvE as well, but taking risks to accomplish something is what keeps things interesting. Having to stealth or fight your way to a Skyshard can be fun if you're in the right mindset. Of course if you're looking for everything given to you on a silver platter, this is never going to work.

TequilaFire · August 2015

This is not always the case, but many times while hunting skyshards in enemy territory I run into a player of the opposing faction doing the same thing and if the other player does not attack first we let each other go.

I am not into ganking every level 10 I see unless there is a group.

demendred · August 2015

Pick a campaign that your faction is dominant in. That's how I did it.

eNumbra · August 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

So basically I have to "suck it up" eh?

Some helpful community this is. Still, One offer to help me out and three ways of tackling it is better than zero.

I guess its time to let this thread die as "sucking it up" is not very helpful.

You were given your answer; there is no alternative to getting those extra skill points other than venturing into Cyrodiil. Short of sockpuppeting your account, what help does m'lord wants us to provide?

You've refused to be proactive but complain that we're not helpful.

J2JMC · August 2015

I can almost guarantee that no matter what platform you play on your faction has a buff server for pve buffs. Go into that server and collect shards as kids who think they are good gate camp the other factions.

Osteos · August 2015

Cyrodiil is not some big scary place with enemies lurking around every boulder waiting to snipe you. Most of the zone has nothing going on at all. If you stay off the main travel routes and avoid the swords on the map the chances of running into an enemy player are pretty slim. If you do more then likely they are there for the same reason and don't want to fight anymore then you do.

So if you want those skyshards get off your butt and go get them like the rest of us did.

BabeestorGor · August 2015

Techlisp wrote: »

PvE players just want it all.

Something I have noticed PvP players get rewarded with pittance in this and in Guild Wars 2 WvW, while dungeon runners get all the loot.

Who whines the most?

PvE players when they miss out on something.

Let us PvP players have some love for once.

Generalise much?

leepalmer95 · August 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

So basically I have to "suck it up" eh?

Some helpful community this is. Still, One offer to help me out and three ways of tackling it is better than zero.

I guess its time to let this thread die as "sucking it up" is not very helpful.

You know theres a forum for guilds here right? go join a pve guild, stop complaining groups are hard and such and that your a lone wolf etc... when your not even trying to talk to people or join guilds.

Find a pve guild.

Lots of things have been suggested your just crying that it's not being handed to you on a silver platter and not even listening.

Look for a campaign that your faction does really well on.
Look for a campaign where there is not many players.
Wait until the campaigns are dead, e.g. late at night.
Gather a group and go hunt them together.

KiraTsukasa · August 2015

Elektrakosh wrote: »

KiraTsukasa wrote: »

There are 325 skill points in the game from all sources last time I checked. With that many, you can max out the crafting skills you need and still have plenty for combat skills even if you miss a few Skyshards.

I'd like to master all crafting skills on a main hence my asking about cyrodiil and such. I do not want to miss out and have to craft good stuff after end game.

Yes, I suck at battle and would like to complete collecting all shards.

There are plenty of skill points to master all the crafting skills you want and still have enough to get what combat skills you need, even without every Skyshard. How many times do I have to tell you this?

But since the game is looking "more and more unattractive" to you, just quit and save yourself and us the headache of you trying to figure out a very simple idea.

TheShadowScout · August 2015

I often stick my nose into cyrodil, all alone, and just to do exploring / PvE / skyshard hunting. If you take it slow, sneak all the way, and keep your distance to wherever the action is... more often then not you can get by without any gankage coming your way.

In the year playing I maybe got murderboated less then a dozend times... ganked half a dozend payers myself, and made another three unsuccsessful attempts on other players (one "warband popping up when one expects a easy kill" and two darn dragonknights...). That is my result of "PvP happening outside siege areas" - an average of once per month.

And by now my main character has almost all the cyrodil skyshards too... (three dwelves left). Yes, even the ones in the other factions starting keep - all it takes is tagging along with some scroll raid when they burst through the gates, and then split off to go skyshard seeking.

So, its quite doable if you put your mind to it, no matter how good or bad your PvP skills. Slow and steady (or rather, sneaky) will get you most of it anyhow. If you want it enough to spend the time and effort.

While talking about skill points though... sneaky gets you the skyshards, but the ones that come with PvP rank, those you will have to PvP for. Also no big, find a warband, join or follow, use ranged attacks from the sidelines, don't sweat it if you get spanked, just wait for rez if your side wins, or respawn and try for better luck next time if not. Preservation will get you there no matter your skill, even if its only slowly.

Protip - joining the right guilds will help you a lot in cyrodil.

Techlisp · August 2015

BabeestorGor wrote: »

Techlisp wrote: »

PvE players just want it all.

Something I have noticed PvP players get rewarded with pittance in this and in Guild Wars 2 WvW, while dungeon runners get all the loot.

Who whines the most?

PvE players when they miss out on something.

Let us PvP players have some love for once.

Generalise much?

It is what I have seen on a lot of forums where MMO's have PvP and PvE.

You want something so much get in PvP and stop crying about it. We all die in there, we all get ganked in there. Why should a PvE player be treated any different in there?

BabeestorGor · August 2015

Techlisp wrote: »

BabeestorGor wrote: »

Techlisp wrote: »

PvE players just want it all.

Something I have noticed PvP players get rewarded with pittance in this and in Guild Wars 2 WvW, while dungeon runners get all the loot.

Who whines the most?

PvE players when they miss out on something.

Let us PvP players have some love for once.

Generalise much?

It is what I have seen on a lot of forums where MMO's have PvP and PvE.

You want something so much get in PvP and stop crying about it. We all die in there, we all get ganked in there. Why should a PvE player be treated any different in there?

So because some PvE players complain you call all of us complainers. Thats generalising, its poor argument and makes me less inclined to listen to you.

Prof_Bawbag · August 2015

I'm only level 40ish and I have more skill points than I know what to do with. I have a crafting character, so there's no point in even burning those points on crafting skills.

I have no idea what people do with over 200 skill points. I get they like to have skills on hand if they opt for a different style, but over 200 skill points? Hahaha, you're fretting too much. It's not even worth respeccing if you make a slight mess of your character either as there's still more than enough points.

ObsidianMichi · August 2015

You've already gotten some really good advice in this thread for how to go about getting them, but I'll reiterate the high points.

Avoid the main roads and highly trafficked areas.

Avoid the places marked by swords.

Go on a low population server when most players are logged, preferably one maintained by your faction as a buff server.

Take a crafted set like Night's Silence to help with your sneaking.

Profit.

Traveling through low population Vet Campaigns aren't a death sentence, I've seen a VR14 sorcerer get murdered by my boyfriend's level 38 Clannfear after he ran out of resources on Thornblade after he killed me. I avenged my own death against the same VR14 Sorc when he was trying to escape with a movement debuff and Ambush as he streaked away, plus a few hits to his back while he was stunned, I was also level 38. Neither of us really PvP. It was only my third time in Cyrodil. It's not easy, but it's doable and survivable. No one can promise you won't see combat, but the cream of the PvP crop are going to be raiding rather than hanging out around the skyshards.

Die. Rez. Repeat.

As everyone here has already said, this isn't going to be fixed by ZOS. This is intended in the game design and the same will be true with the Skyshards and skill points in the upcoming IC DLC.

Just do it. Or don't.

Your choice.

waterfairy · August 2015

eNumbra wrote: »

15 Skill points for Cyrodiil and another what? 5 for the Imperial City. My main has around 270 skill points. You're not missing anything.

15 skill points is enough to get 9/9 for the top crafting passive, 4/4 in the tempering one and an extra 1 for deconstructing which is big for someone who wants to master crafting as well as make their character as strong as they can be.

Sithisvoid · August 2015

The trick is to go get slaughtered a bunch until you are the one doing the slaughtering. PSA lol. Or you if really just want the skyshards go into your campaigns buff server. You will have a high population and the other two alliances will not, pick that one.

Nebthet78 · August 2015

You know what, just man up and ask for assistance in Cyrodiil zone chat. I am mainly a PVEr. My Main had only a couple skyshards left as they are my main crafter and I know ahead of time with IC I am going to need to have a few more skyshards at my disposal if I want to remain at the top of my craft. So I went to Cyrodiil and I learned to PvP.

One of the main things you need to do is research to find out who your buff campaign is. Even if it is the other faction like AD for Thornblade, all you need to do is ask a fellow mate in zone chat if they are friends with any one on the opposing faction. If they are, you could ask them if they would mind texting the person and asking if they would please let you into the zone so you can go skyshard hunting. Most of the mates in AD are more than willing to do that.

While it will not guarantee that you won't be hit and killed a couple of times by other PVE players from the opposing factions, it does at least send a message out in their zone chat asking people not to target you, as long as you do not target them.
You could even ask if there was an AD member who was willing to escort you around. A few may take their time out to do so, but be aware if you engage in a battle you might accidentally get targeted and vice versa.

Also, at some point of time you are really just going to have to try new things. PvPers have to have something to that is almost exclusively theirs, so don't go trying to ruin that for them.

Cazic · August 2015

You will have enough skill points to max out everything you want even without the Skyshards in Cyrodiil. Don't worry about it.

If you really just want them in order to get an achievement or to collect them all, then you're going to have to go into Cyrodiiil and get them. There is no "fix" or way make the Shards more accessible than they are now. All we can suggest is that you get in there and find them.

As far as not being a PvP player and only doing PvE, well I suggest you try and break out of that shell a little bit. ESO actually implements PvP in a very organic and natural way, relative to the PvE content in the game. In otherwords, you can treat Cyrodiil like any PvE zone because it has all the same stuff in it (delves, dolmens, skyshards, quests, etc.). If you're so worried about getting killed a few times that you'd rather not partake in all of that content, then that's simply your choice.

eNumbra · August 2015

Vigarr wrote: »

eNumbra wrote: »

15 Skill points for Cyrodiil and another what? 5 for the Imperial City. My main has around 270 skill points. You're not missing anything.

15 skill points is enough to get 9/9 for the top crafting passive, 4/4 in the tempering one and an extra 1 for deconstructing which is big for someone who wants to master crafting as well as make their character as strong as they can be.

And if you'd kept reading you'd have notice I and others have outlined and stated that you can max out crafting and numerous other lines without the 15 found in Cyrodiil.

Taleof2Cities · August 2015

Can you craft some invisibility pots to take with you into Cyrodiil? If not, PM me in-game (with your level) and I'll send you whatever you need.