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Double Mundus Bug - A must have now?

  • Thelon
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    Kobaal wrote: »
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    Brady uses 2 mundus
  • Fruitdog
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    Brady is the Blinxey of the NFL
  • Takllin
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    Jules wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    @jules @Takllin You guys pats fans much?

    LoL I was wondering if that small comment would rustle some jimmies. I kid Tom Brady, I'm sure he is an amazing person.

    YES OFC. Check the sig bro. We are both in hot beautiful love with him.

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    JDar wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    @jules @Takllin You guys pats fans much?

    LoL I was wondering if that small comment would rustle some jimmies. I kid Tom Brady, I'm sure he is an amazing person.

    He's a cheater and so is the team he plays for. They were caught cheating. It's that simple.

    LOL. Except it's really not...

    Did you even read anything about this, or about spygate? What else did they do that you think qualifies as cheating?
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  • Takllin
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    Fruitdog wrote: »
    Brady is the Blinxey of the NFL

    :open_mouth: Take that back!
    Edited by Takllin on August 12, 2015 9:40PM
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  • WRX
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    Honestly we all know Tom Brady did not cheat and he will get cleared of it.

    I really thing the big issue here is the fact that people still can not admit that LeBron James is hands down the best number 23 to ever play the game of basketball, and does so without cheating.

    MJ has better stats, sure, but the game was much different then as well and not nearly as sophisticated. LBJ is the king of this generation and certainly of all the past generations, except MAYBE for Magic who also was a team player and truly versatile in what he did on the court.
    Edited by WRX on August 12, 2015 10:27PM
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  • Lava_Croft
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    Garion wrote: »
    No thank you. I choose to not use this, and know many players who also choose to not. Those who choose to are the root of the problem.

    No, the root of the problem is Zenimax who consistently fail to fix these bugs promptly after their discovery as well as failing to punish those who choose to use them. The end result is the widespread use of these kind of exploits which ZOS essentially endorses by their failure to act. It has been possible to do this for months, and only now it has become well known have they chosen to do anything about it. ZOS need to up their game.
    The actual root of the exploiter problem is the players. The fact that an exploit is present is something different than actually exploiting it. Especially in the case of the dual Mundus bug, which is hardly something you accidentally run in to like say, Sharpened Maces.

    Sure, ZOS needs to be quite a bit better at fixing bugs on time, but this whole discussion would not exist if players just had the spine and especially character to not exploit.

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    If I would follow @Etaniel 's logic, it's the stinking Dunmer's fault because he left his door open. I would say that it's the thief's fault for ever deciding to trespass.
    Edited by Lava_Croft on August 12, 2015 10:08PM
  • Kova
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    I've killed every exploiter I've come across 1v1 without these "advantages". Inner light, double mundus; as long as they don't run away, they're dead.

    There are only two exceptions: A fellow duelist used them, who did not need them and has lost a bit of my respect because of it, and a WB spamming NB who barely survived the fight anyways...but, well, WB spam.

    So no, OP, it is not a must have.
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  •  Jules
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    GRxKnight wrote: »
    JDar wrote: »
    yodased wrote: »
    @jules @Takllin You guys pats fans much?

    LoL I was wondering if that small comment would rustle some jimmies. I kid Tom Brady, I'm sure he is an amazing person.

    He's a cheater and so is the team he plays for. They were caught cheating. It's that simple.

    I cannot wait for the judge to exonerate Tom for this. The league has nothing more than a "we think he was generally aware of the situation". All of the slugs in the world will become extinct from the salt coming out of Patriots haters.

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  • FENGRUSH
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    AD zerg guilds are cheating patriot fans. Nothing new learned in this thread.
  • JDar
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    I'm not saying I am wrong about Tom Brady but I regret taking that shot at him on an ESO forum. In truth I am mad because my boy, Romo has it so hard and New England has the rings that I want. Among other good reasons for hating them.
    Edited by JDar on August 12, 2015 11:23PM
  • JDar
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    WRX wrote: »
    Honestly we all know Tom Brady did not cheat and he will get cleared of it.

    I really thing the big issue here is the fact that people still can not admit that LeBron James is hands down the best number 23 to ever play the game of basketball, and does so without cheating.

    MJ has better stats, sure, but the game was much different then as well and not nearly as sophisticated. LBJ is the king of this generation and certainly of all the past generations, except MAYBE for Magic who also was a team player and truly versatile in what he did on the court.

    Michael was amazing. I'd go back and watch some videos again, I think you will change your mind.
    Edited by JDar on August 12, 2015 11:17PM
  • eliisra
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    Lava_Croft wrote: »
    Garion wrote: »
    No thank you. I choose to not use this, and know many players who also choose to not. Those who choose to are the root of the problem.

    No, the root of the problem is Zenimax who consistently fail to fix these bugs promptly after their discovery as well as failing to punish those who choose to use them. The end result is the widespread use of these kind of exploits which ZOS essentially endorses by their failure to act. It has been possible to do this for months, and only now it has become well known have they chosen to do anything about it. ZOS need to up their game.
    The actual root of the exploiter problem is the players. The fact that an exploit is present is something different than actually exploiting it. Especially in the case of the dual Mundus bug, which is hardly something you accidentally run in to like say, Sharpened Maces.

    Sure, ZOS needs to be quite a bit better at fixing bugs on time, but this whole discussion would not exist if players just had the spine and especially character to not exploit.

    Yes, it's true. But saying that, or the truth, changes nothing. Upright guys condemning cheats will not change the attitude or actions of thousands of players.

    Majority of online players will still take advantage of all bugs and broken mechanics to gain advantages, if they know there's no repercussions. If a gaming company and overall attitude allows it, it will be widely spread. This is the current case in ESO.

    This *** attitude is born out of ZoS inability to deal with game breaking bugs and exploits. Everything is ok, until patched. It's been like this since launch.

    Also the hypocrisy, makes the whole thing so hard to discuss. When guys with 7/7 nirn, sharpened and every cheese in the game keeps raging about Overload toggle or a double mundus, people just start laughing.
  • Grampa_Smurf
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    Saturn wrote: »
    I here a lot saying Equip Twice born star, go get 2 mundus bug ....should just remove the set bla bla. I have never used the set and have 4 just from levelling. Don't know how just know I have 4 on my bar.

    There are some players that have not done anything and getting the bug and now have the exploiter tag.

    I heard there was a bug where swapping mundus stones often before hitting veteran levels could do it. Were you the kind of player that picked up a mundus stone every time you found a new one?

    Yes this happened while lvling, Since I just got back after 4 months off I started a NB and was wondering if this was a new thing so I asked in chat and some said yes and others no. I came here and ask and got no answer and after lvling a little bit more I had 3 Mundus stones. I came back and asked again and got a no, some times while lvling I had 2 then 3 up to 4 drop down to 2 again now it is stuck with 4. Every time I change while lvling it would change a random one now it only changes the last I pick up.

    Still now convinced that is not a UI error. Pic added on first page showing the 4 Mundus stones.




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  •  Jules
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    JDar wrote: »
    I'm not saying I am wrong about Tom Brady but I regret taking that shot at him on an ESO forum. In truth I am mad because my boy, Romo has it so hard and New England has the rings that I want. Among other good reasons for hating them.

    I am truly sorry that you have to observe the greatness from afar. :/
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  •  Jules
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    Fruitdog wrote: »
    Brady is the Blinxey of the NFL

    Belicheck yourself before you wreck yourself.
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  • GRxKnight
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    WRX wrote: »
    Honestly we all know Tom Brady did not cheat and he will get cleared of it.

    I really thing the big issue here is the fact that people still can not admit that LeBron James is hands down the best number 23 to ever play the game of basketball, and does so without cheating.

    MJ has better stats, sure, but the game was much different then as well and not nearly as sophisticated. LBJ is the king of this generation and certainly of all the past generations, except MAYBE for Magic who also was a team player and truly versatile in what he did on the court.

    You said it yourself...it's a completely different game now than it was back then. If you say LBJ is better than MJ, it's like me saying that Sydney Crosby is better than Wayne Gretzky...I think it's unfair to both athletes that they will be forever compared when it comes to who is better...

    Seriously though back on topic...Exploiters...bring out the RAID
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  • Publius_Scipio
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    All this Brady talk. I raise you all David Beckham.

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  • FMonk
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    FENGRUSH wrote: »
    AD zerg guilds are cheating patriot fans. Nothing new learned in this thread.

    Coming from someone who streams himself using both the double mundus and overload bar exploits.
  • Grunim
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    I had a character who ended up getting an extra mundus stone affect last week. They weren't using the Twice Born gear either. I sent a /bug report to ZOS immediately when I discovered I had two mundus stones and I was relieved to see that character had just one mundus affect when I logged in today. Still, I played that character for a week and I had no idea how to get rid of this. I'm glad it's fixed now.

    Maybe those people who you think are exploiters had a glitch happen that benefits them but they had no idea it would happen. It reminds me of the people who used to have a perma speed buff in Cyrodiil last year which they couldn't remove by themselves and those people were subjected to all sorts of cheating accusations.

    There are plenty of honest people who play games and this mindset that everybody is a cheater disgusts me.

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  • Alcast
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    99% of ppl that use mundus do it by intention

    1% got mundus bug by smth other shizzle nobody can explain, tho they prollly go that stuff while trying to find exploits ;)
    Edited by Alcast on August 13, 2015 7:50AM
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  • Jeckll
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    Still not fixed in the current Patch on PTS btw.
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  • chevalierknight
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    Ezareth wrote: »
    Yeah, I refuse to even test it. When I see people running this crap I just make mental notes of them as players I tolerate yet have no desire to play with. I've been the same way with every player I've seen using exploits since the old Caltrop with siege bug. (Have caltrops ever *not* been bugged in some way?).

    This people i see or hear talking about using i target with my group of nightblade team im dc and ill target a not going to name guild in ad over attack any reds
  • chevalierknight
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    @Alcast you could ask that about every bug we use...

    Camo Hunter bug a must have now?
    Sharpened Mace bug a must have now?

    It's a must have if you care about leaderboards and if you want to get the best results in Cyro. Sure people will alwyys clain the kill others without using these bugs. But if you face the very best players and those guys use those mentioned benefits while you're not - you are toast.

    And I think instead of not using it, we should all use it. If no one uses it, ZOS has no intention to fix it fast.
    What's the camo hunter bug, what have I missed?

    It was patched last week
  • Jeckll
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    @Alcast you could ask that about every bug we use...

    Camo Hunter bug a must have now?
    Sharpened Mace bug a must have now?
    What's the camo hunter bug, what have I missed?

    It was patched last week

    Yes, Sharpened Mace is fixed as well. Did some tests:

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    Jeckll has quit the game. Thanks for the great time.
  • Cyantific87
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    I've got two mundus on my Breton magicka dps Templar :blush:
    But I'm am in fact using the twice born set, which by the way I get better results in dps than using martial knowledge, the increased health means more points into magicka. I have Mage stone and atronach/apprentice, massive sustain! Without undaunted passives I have 36k magicka 19-20k health and 10.5k Stam with blue food, ST dps 16500 while screwing up rotation!
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    @Alcast you could ask that about every bug we use...

    Camo Hunter bug a must have now?
    Sharpened Mace bug a must have now?
    What's the camo hunter bug, what have I missed?

    It was patched last week

    Yes, Sharpened Mace is fixed as well. Did some tests:

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    Against what target is that test?! 7/7 cloth? 7/7 heavy armor?
  • Jeckll
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    Docmandu wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    @Alcast you could ask that about every bug we use...

    Camo Hunter bug a must have now?
    Sharpened Mace bug a must have now?
    What's the camo hunter bug, what have I missed?

    It was patched last week

    Yes, Sharpened Mace is fixed as well. Did some tests:

    mb6giC0.jpg

    Against what target is that test?! 7/7 cloth? 7/7 heavy armor?

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  • chevalierknight
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    Jeckll wrote: »
    Jeckll wrote: »
    @Alcast you could ask that about every bug we use...

    Camo Hunter bug a must have now?
    Sharpened Mace bug a must have now?
    What's the camo hunter bug, what have I missed?

    It was patched last week

    Yes, Sharpened Mace is fixed as well. Did some tests:

    mb6giC0.jpg

    Didnt know nice
  • rfennell_ESO
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    WRX wrote: »
    Honestly we all know Tom Brady did not cheat and he will get cleared of it.

    I really thing the big issue here is the fact that people still can not admit that LeBron James is hands down the best number 23 to ever play the game of basketball, and does so without cheating.

    MJ has better stats, sure, but the game was much different then as well and not nearly as sophisticated. LBJ is the king of this generation and certainly of all the past generations, except MAYBE for Magic who also was a team player and truly versatile in what he did on the court.

    I guess the question to ask is do you believe two equipment "manager" doofuses manipulated balls without Tom's knowledge? My answer is: not a snowball's chance in fiery hell.

    Hard to compare Lebron in the age of zone D to MJ who played in the era of man to man D and could nearly always be isolated. Also keep in mind a legitimate strategy was to beat the crap out of someone until the NBA changed the rules in MJ's favor. The Pistons once had a D strategy called "Jordan Rules" that was basically force him to the middle so Rodman, Lambier and/or Mahorn could sledgehammer him to the floor. Players used to clothesline MJ as their foul... Point being it's pretty hard to make a comparison. I'd take a forward over a guard though, when it comes to a prolific scorer.

    As for Magic, magic was always a defensive liability. A big smile seemed to charm people that should have been saying things like "he's a great offensive player, but". Then again, "showtime" didn't include much Defense.

    Oh and Double Mundus? It's so trivial you can say big whoop to it. All the sorc cheaters using the overload bug with inner light and armor buff are worse. The artificial lag inducers that pollute Cyrondil and are respected as "great players" because they cheat are the worst though. But the worst of them all are the people that post here talking about fair play and not exploiting because they rock without it, but when you see them in game are cheap exploiting hacks... well, no one abusing double mundus ought even feel slightly bad about it when you have the real exploiters cheating their way to fame (of course only in their minds and the minds of young males who don't sexually identify yet due to never not soloing it).
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