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CP FARMING EXPLOIT!

Seth_Black
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Hi all!

This will be hard to type in without foul language ...but I'll try my best.
So, guy on screenshots below is farming/boting CP in Halin's Stand [Bangkorai] Mages Guild room upstairs.
He's phased in town on questing stage, so players that finished quests there can't see him.
He just kills over and over same npc that's instantly respawning.
That's giving bounty for sure, but since CP works for whole account you can always stop playing one character right?

Instant respawns on ANYTHING should be fixed asap to prevent stuff like this from happening.
I just hope ZOS will ban him :/


https://drive.google.com/file/d/0B4_d0FB4lGtyQ2FrWFJzXzVuMGs/view?usp=sharing


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Edited by Seth_Black on August 12, 2015 8:45PM
Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul
  • yodased
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    remove that picture before you get a warning. Report the player although they are doing nothing "wrong"
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Tolmos
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    Suddenly, all these people with 9,000,000+ bounties on one of their characters are starting to make sense...
  • Kammakazi
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    So this is how that one guy got his 2 million bounty!
  • yodased
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    seriously @seth_black remove that picture now ESPECIALLY since you freakin tagged the people that will get you in trouble for posting it.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Seth_Black
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    yodased wrote: »
    remove that picture before you get a warning. Report the player although they are doing nothing "wrong"

    So you claim exploiting is OK? :) Congrats
    Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
    It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul
  • Enemy-of-Coldharbour
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    Yes, this thread will be locked soon for shaming. NB4LOCK

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  • Dekkameron
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    yodased wrote: »
    remove that picture before you get a warning. Report the player although they are doing nothing "wrong"

    Here's a "safe one" instead.

    BSwORtL.jpg
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  • yodased
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    ok, you know me then? Cause you couldn't be more wrong.

    I am saying that he isn't doing anything "wrong" in terms of Zenimax rules.

    He is killing something that is spawning, he has no control over that. Its not like he is doing something particular to spawn it that fast, it just is.

    There is a difference from using a system that is working strangely vs actively exploiting a system to have it do what was not intended.
    Tl;dr really weigh the fun you have in game vs the business practices you are supporting.
  • Seth_Black
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    Somehow I don't hear about any players banned for using exploits like this, even thou I know for sure about at least few.
    And btw this pic doesn't show account name, just player's name ...and 'shaming'? give me a brake, this is just another way of turning attention towards serious problem like cp farming.
    Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
    It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul
  • Sharee
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    yodased wrote: »
    ok, you know me then? Cause you couldn't be more wrong.

    I am saying that he isn't doing anything "wrong" in terms of Zenimax rules.

    He is killing something that is spawning, he has no control over that. Its not like he is doing something particular to spawn it that fast, it just is.

    There is a difference from using a system that is working strangely vs actively exploiting a system to have it do what was not intended.

    It is a safe bet that killing an instantly respawning enemy over and over is not intended. Thus doing so constitutes exploiting an unintended game behavior.
  • SirAndy
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    9 fps? What the ...?
    confused24.gif
  • Dekkameron
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    SirAndy wrote: »
    9 fps? What the ...?
    confused24.gif

    I was more shocked by the lack of addons cluttering up the screen
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  • Sharee
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    Seth_Black wrote: »
    And btw this pic doesn't show account name, just player's name ...and 'shaming'?

    Unfortunately, yes it is still shaming. Knowing a player name means you can easily discover his account name (just type /ignore <playername>, the game will then respond with "@accountname added to ignore list")

    Edited by Sharee on August 12, 2015 8:36PM
  • Seth_Black
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    dead bodies piling up one over another for 20+ minutes since I was there - that's causing fps drop
    and addons? no, I'm playing in 'hard mode' ;)
    Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
    It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul
  • Aneima
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    I'm scared to log into the game now. Someone might take a picture of me killing zombies and call me an exploiter.
  • Dekkameron
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    Seth_Black wrote: »
    dead bodies piling up one over another for 20+ minutes since I was there - that's causing fps drop
    and addons? no, I'm playing in 'hard mode' ;)

    Feel free to edit your OP and use my screeny btw just to satify the "OMG a players name!" crowd if you want to btw.
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  • Phinix1
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    Sharee wrote: »
    It is a safe bet that killing an instantly respawning enemy over and over is not intended. Thus doing so constitutes exploiting an unintended game behavior.

    EXACTLY.

    Got to love how all the cheaters/macro botters always chime in defending their cohorts as if playing ignorant somehow makes them above the rules.

    That said, don't bother OP. ZOS has made it clear they do NOT punish botting, they do NOT code fixes to look for these openly SOLD macro bot programs, and they are much more concerned doing PR damage control censoring people on the forums posting about it.

    You will just make yourself more angry. My only solution was to stop playing the game.
  • Kobaal
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    Hope they fix that.

    And also,

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  • Seth_Black
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    Aneima wrote: »
    I'm scared to log into the game now. Someone might take a picture of me killing zombies and call me an exploiter.

    as long as you're not using bot to do it like this guy
    he's constantly using exactly same attacks in exactly same amount of time
    ...and that's pretty hard to achieve by actually controlling character yourself ;)
    Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
    It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul
  • Armitas
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    IMO what is or is not an exploit is inscrutable in this game. If you go with your gut instinct you will be disappointed.
    Edited by Armitas on August 12, 2015 8:44PM
    Retired.
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  • Athas24
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    Hope you reported the Bot in game because doing it on the forums is equal to doing less than nothing about it. :o
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  • Tolmos
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    Seth_Black wrote: »
    Aneima wrote: »
    I'm scared to log into the game now. Someone might take a picture of me killing zombies and call me an exploiter.

    as long as you're not using bot to do it like this guy
    he's constantly using exactly same attacks in exactly same amount of time
    ...and that's pretty hard to achieve by actually controlling character yourself ;)

    Yea, but the people seeing the picture and forum post don't have to know that.

    Step 1) Take picture of someone doing some random task, doesn't matter what really
    Step 2) Claim they were exploiting in doing it
    Step 3) ...
    Step 4) Profit

    We know nothing of this guy, only that he's killed the same NPC at least 5 times. Everything else is what you, random forum stranger #832834958m has told us. For all we know, he could have been just screwing around for a few minutes, killed the same NPC a few times, and gone on his way.

    This is why "name and shame" is bad, and why you will likely see this thread locked. Because the only story we can see, is the one you tell us.

    The useful thing about the report tool is that ZOS has logs, and will see exactly what he was doing and for how long. They can handle this, all we can do is debate over whether we believe this guy was exploiting or not.
    Edited by Tolmos on August 12, 2015 8:47PM
  • Seth_Black
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    Tolmos wrote: »
    Seth_Black wrote: »
    Aneima wrote: »
    I'm scared to log into the game now. Someone might take a picture of me killing zombies and call me an exploiter.

    as long as you're not using bot to do it like this guy
    he's constantly using exactly same attacks in exactly same amount of time
    ...and that's pretty hard to achieve by actually controlling character yourself ;)

    Yea, but the people seeing the picture and forum post don't have to know that.

    Step 1) Take picture of someone doing some random task, doesn't matter what really
    Step 2) Claim they were exploiting in doing it
    Step 3) ...
    Step 4) Profit

    We know nothing of this guy, only that he's killed the same NPC at least 5 times. Everything else is what you, random forum stranger #832834958m has told us. For all we know, he could have been just screwing around for a few minutes, killed the same NPC a few times, and gone on his way.

    This is why "name and shame" is bad, and why you will likely see this thread locked. Because the only story we can see, is the one you tell us.

    The useful thing about the report tool is that ZOS has logs, and will see exactly what he was doing and for how long. They can handle this, all we can do is debate over whether we believe this guy was exploiting or not.


    But to block this topic someone needs to READ it, then will check for existing reports (and will find at least 3), so goal will be achieved and problem will be noticed ;)
    Out of the night that covers me, Black as the pit from pole to pole, I thank whatever gods may be For my unconquerable soul.
    It matters not how strait the gate, How charged with punishments the scroll, I am the master of my fate, I am the captain of my soul
  • Kobaal
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    Posts like this do more harm to the community than good in my opinion.

    What will essentially happen now is people that didn't know about this bug are now going to exploit it.

    It is better to report in-game.
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  • Armitas
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    The mods are likely aware of your post and just giving you time to fix it. Just replace your url with this one from Dekkameron. Just add the bracket caps (example /b]img[b ) to the beginning and the end of this url.

    img]http://i.imgur.com/BSwORtL.jpg[/img


    Edited by Armitas on August 12, 2015 8:56PM
    Retired.
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  • Dekkameron
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    Kobaal wrote: »
    Posts like this do more harm to the community than good in my opinion.

    What will essentially happen now is people that didn't know about this bug are now going to exploit it.

    It is better to report in-game.

    True, but as so often things really only seem to get fixed when tons of peeps are doing it.
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  • sadownik
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    Tolmos wrote: »
    Suddenly, all these people with 9,000,000+ bounties on one of their characters are starting to make sense...

    Oh damn you are right!
  • Tolmos
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    Seth_Black wrote: »
    Tolmos wrote: »
    Seth_Black wrote: »
    Aneima wrote: »
    I'm scared to log into the game now. Someone might take a picture of me killing zombies and call me an exploiter.

    as long as you're not using bot to do it like this guy
    he's constantly using exactly same attacks in exactly same amount of time
    ...and that's pretty hard to achieve by actually controlling character yourself ;)

    Yea, but the people seeing the picture and forum post don't have to know that.

    Step 1) Take picture of someone doing some random task, doesn't matter what really
    Step 2) Claim they were exploiting in doing it
    Step 3) ...
    Step 4) Profit

    We know nothing of this guy, only that he's killed the same NPC at least 5 times. Everything else is what you, random forum stranger #832834958m has told us. For all we know, he could have been just screwing around for a few minutes, killed the same NPC a few times, and gone on his way.

    This is why "name and shame" is bad, and why you will likely see this thread locked. Because the only story we can see, is the one you tell us.

    The useful thing about the report tool is that ZOS has logs, and will see exactly what he was doing and for how long. They can handle this, all we can do is debate over whether we believe this guy was exploiting or not.


    But to block this topic someone needs to READ it, then will check for existing reports (and will find at least 3), so goal will be achieved and problem will be noticed ;)

    You could accomplish the same goal by blocking their name, putting in a report, and then posting that picture up and saying "Hey, I reported this guy". The necessary people can just look at your account to see the actual report and get the user's name, look it up and quickly take action.

    What we're saying here is- you can accomplish the exact same goal, the exact same way, with less headache, backlash and no action taken against your account by literally just taking MSPaint and wiping out the guy's name on the pic. 0 difference. Nada. None. Zilch.
  • sadownik
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    Kobaal wrote: »
    Posts like this do more harm to the community than good in my opinion.

    What will essentially happen now is people that didn't know about this bug are now going to exploit it.

    It is better to report in-game.

    Absolutly dissagree. For Z. to take action this must me a wide spreaded thing. Not that i condone spreading the information about exploits but it seems the most certain way (and even that often dont work)
  • BlackEar
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    If everybody exploits it they will fix it faster, yes?
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