Aquanova wrote: »

This video doesn't prove crap! All isolated instances patched together to make a BS mosaic? Come on!......Hey here's how you'll win me and alot of us stam NB'S over. Make a continuous video of say, 20 minutes near a keep being sieged and pull off all that NB OP'rd stuff there. Even better! Do it on the pts

Aquanova wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Aquanova wrote: »

This video doesn't prove crap! All isolated instances patched together to make a BS mosaic? Come on!......Hey here's how you'll win me and alot of us stam NB'S over. Make a continuous video of say, 20 minutes near a keep being sieged and pull off all that NB OP'rd stuff there. Even better! Do it on the pts

I haven't played the pts enough to know if I will still have to complain about stam damage, so I have no interest in making a pts video. I'll probably wait for IC to hit live to record anything.

This video actually does prove something. That these damage numbers are possible, and that killing under a second can be done on practically anyone. The "BS" mosaic as you call it is just so that it's more entertaining to watch (and to edit as well I might add).

Well, I have played on the pts and your gonna have to take more than one shot with wb no matter your build. Videos like this scream " NERF" what ever class is featured and I and many others don't have the utmost confidence in ZOS to weed out the legitimate claims from false one's. There's already alot of other threads claiming that NB is OP which IS NOT true. I didn't see you stand your ground and take on 5 players and I wouldn't expect you to. NB is "Hit n Run" and that play style is the core of it's design, it doesn't automatically make them OP. Btw, Every class can pull those numbers. WB is not a NB exclusive.

Leandor wrote: »

The video is a great compilation of the exploits easily done nowadays. At least I hope it was not an epeen video. It was a simple reinforced request for ZOS to fix their sh... stuff.

EDIT: and a 50% damage nerf debuff is not a fix. If you need twice as long now, it still doesn't change the fact that the other guy will not be able to return in kind and will probably die the same, just slower.

Leandor wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Leandor wrote: »

The video is a great compilation of the exploits easily done nowadays. At least I hope it was not an epeen video. It was a simple reinforced request for ZOS to fix their sh... stuff.

EDIT: and a 50% damage nerf debuff is not a fix. If you need twice as long now, it still doesn't change the fact that the other guy will not be able to return in kind and will probably die the same, just slower.

If you want epeen videos, go watch my dk videos

Ah, you mean those where you block and run all the time and let mage make all the kills?

j/k

Aquanova wrote: »

This video doesn't prove crap! All isolated instances patched together to make a BS mosaic? Come on!......Hey here's how you'll win me and alot of us stam NB'S over. Make a continuous video of say, 20 minutes near a keep being sieged and pull off all that NB OP'rd stuff there. Even better! Do it on the pts

vortexman11 wrote: »

Let us take our hats and helmets off, as we pay respects to another fallen Dragonknight. His reign was longer than the rest, but in the end, they all reroll.

R.I.P. Etaniel :'(

Etaniel wrote: »

Aquanova wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Aquanova wrote: »

This video doesn't prove crap! All isolated instances patched together to make a BS mosaic? Come on!......Hey here's how you'll win me and alot of us stam NB'S over. Make a continuous video of say, 20 minutes near a keep being sieged and pull off all that NB OP'rd stuff there. Even better! Do it on the pts

I haven't played the pts enough to know if I will still have to complain about stam damage, so I have no interest in making a pts video. I'll probably wait for IC to hit live to record anything.

This video actually does prove something. That these damage numbers are possible, and that killing under a second can be done on practically anyone. The "BS" mosaic as you call it is just so that it's more entertaining to watch (and to edit as well I might add).

Well, I have played on the pts and your gonna have to take more than one shot with wb no matter your build. Videos like this scream " NERF" what ever class is featured and I and many others don't have the utmost confidence in ZOS to weed out the legitimate claims from false one's. There's already alot of other threads claiming that NB is OP which IS NOT true. I didn't see you stand your ground and take on 5 players and I wouldn't expect you to. NB is "Hit n Run" and that play style is the core of it's design, it doesn't automatically make them OP. Btw, Every class can pull those numbers. WB is not a NB exclusive.

Did you read the comments on this thread? Yes i know very well that WB is not a NB exclusive, in fact I have said that I consider the STAMINA damage over the top. And as I've said before, most of the ridiculous damage comes probably from sharpened maul/maces.

Btw, you didn't see me stand my ground vs 5 people solo, but I can guarantee that with a little more practice I will pull it off with this character.
OP doesnt mean "being able to stand your ground vs many people". But you probably get that from the dks that can pull it off. In which case it still isn't OP if the dk doesn't actually win the fight.

OP stand for over Powered, so high burst damage that leaves no chance of response is in my opinion, over powered. Especially when that burst doesn't require pulling off some combo or whatever.

Finally this video isn't directed at ZOS so that they fix their crap, since there's already a patch coming with many changes.
It's simply a video to prove that stamblades aren't "weak" like I've heard people say.

Leandor wrote: »

The video is a great compilation of the exploits easily done nowadays. At least I hope it was not an epeen video. It was a simple reinforced request for ZOS to fix their sh... stuff.

EDIT: and a 50% damage nerf debuff is not a fix. If you need twice as long now, it still doesn't change the fact that the other guy will not be able to return in kind and will probably die the same, just slower.

If you want epeen videos, go watch my dk videos

Erondil wrote: »

Aquanova wrote: »

This video doesn't prove crap! All isolated instances patched together to make a BS mosaic? Come on!......Hey here's how you'll win me and alot of us stam NB'S over. Make a continuous video of say, 20 minutes near a keep being sieged and pull off all that NB OP'rd stuff there. Even better! Do it on the pts

I dont think Etaniel wants to show how OP is a nightblade but more how easy it is to get kills and escape. I have a nb, a sorc and a dk and I can say, nb is by far the easiest class to play if you *** to have free kills and not die in openworld (if you dont want to take risks). Sure you can build a dk to oneshot with heavy attacks or a sorc to have crazy crystal frags. But those specc are much easier to counter than a sneaky wrecking blow or a prox deto + fear combo. Are wrecking blow, prox deto or snipe nb skills? No but they synergize much better with NB skills and passives,exactly as vamp was used to synergize much better with dk than with other classes back in 1.0. Cloak, relentless focus and fear, passives for more stealth damages, stam regen, more crit more crit damages etc...
Will a good player with a nb be able to 1vX more ppl than with another class? No, maybe not, but survive and get kills with a nightblade doesnt need as much skill as survive and get kills with another class. nightblade is far from "weak and tough to play", as Etaniel perfectly proved in this video.

Aquanova wrote: »

OMG, now you go after DK'S , LMFAO. Your main must be a Sorc. Dude, go play on the pts. Video that. Then come back with claims of NBS and DKs being OP. So do you consider Sorc's Under Powered? If you say yes, then your playing on a totally different ESO server then the other 90% of us. You say burst damage! Wtf do Sorcs pull off all the while running shields the qhole time that scale off of their dps resorce that have to be burst down to kill them. Compared to Sorc's, stam NBS are weak.and will become more so in 1.7. Please, don't try to hide the fact that this is another "NERF" NB thread.

Etaniel wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

DDuke wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

It's simply a video to prove that stamblades aren't "weak" like I've heard people say.

Find me whoever said that, I will make him pay for his insolence :P

Weak... pfft

@DDuke
word for word what someone told me on youtube comments about a month ago:

quote - "
You're clearly very new or haven't played the game yourself from how you speak. You ask any veteran if they think Nightblades are OP and they will tell you they are the weakest class in game (PVP).

Nightblades excel at stealth and burst. Going head on into big groups or attacking without stealth in terrible as a Nightblade. You try 1v1ing a good Dragonknight or Sorcerer in PvP. I'll watch you die.

I've got a Nightblade, Sorcerer and Templar at V14 and I can say without a shadow of a doubt that if I were to play myself on my Nightblade against my Sorcerer, my Nightblade would get destroyed.

Nightblades have very little sustain and mediocre damage.

I would also assume that you don't play a Nightblade, and if that is the case, please shut up.

You've probably just got slaughtered by a few good Nightblades and now you think they're OP.

" - end of quote

Well, that is mostly bs

I guess whoever wrote that doesn't wear nirn.

You can't really lose to a DK (or Templar) while wearing atleast 3x nirn as a NB. Sorcs can still beat you though, but it's more like 50/50 (you don't get "destroyed").

Without nirn... it's a different story, let's put it that way

vortexman11 wrote: »

Let us take our hats and helmets off, as we pay respects to another fallen Dragonknight. His reign was longer than the rest, but in the end, they all reroll.

R.I.P. Etaniel :'(

Don't worry, I will offset the balance by starting to play my op magicka DK

Aquanova wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Aquanova wrote: »

Etaniel wrote: »

Aquanova wrote: »

This video doesn't prove crap! All isolated instances patched together to make a BS mosaic? Come on!......Hey here's how you'll win me and alot of us stam NB'S over. Make a continuous video of say, 20 minutes near a keep being sieged and pull off all that NB OP'rd stuff there. Even better! Do it on the pts

I haven't played the pts enough to know if I will still have to complain about stam damage, so I have no interest in making a pts video. I'll probably wait for IC to hit live to record anything.

This video actually does prove something. That these damage numbers are possible, and that killing under a second can be done on practically anyone. The "BS" mosaic as you call it is just so that it's more entertaining to watch (and to edit as well I might add).

Well, I have played on the pts and your gonna have to take more than one shot with wb no matter your build. Videos like this scream " NERF" what ever class is featured and I and many others don't have the utmost confidence in ZOS to weed out the legitimate claims from false one's. There's already alot of other threads claiming that NB is OP which IS NOT true. I didn't see you stand your ground and take on 5 players and I wouldn't expect you to. NB is "Hit n Run" and that play style is the core of it's design, it doesn't automatically make them OP. Btw, Every class can pull those numbers. WB is not a NB exclusive.

Did you read the comments on this thread? Yes i know very well that WB is not a NB exclusive, in fact I have said that I consider the STAMINA damage over the top. And as I've said before, most of the ridiculous damage comes probably from sharpened maul/maces.

Btw, you didn't see me stand my ground vs 5 people solo, but I can guarantee that with a little more practice I will pull it off with this character.
OP doesnt mean "being able to stand your ground vs many people". But you probably get that from the dks that can pull it off. In which case it still isn't OP if the dk doesn't actually win the fight.

OP stand for over Powered, so high burst damage that leaves no chance of response is in my opinion, over powered. Especially when that burst doesn't require pulling off some combo or whatever.

Finally this video isn't directed at ZOS so that they fix their crap, since there's already a patch coming with many changes.
It's simply a video to prove that stamblades aren't "weak" like I've heard people say.

Leandor wrote: »

The video is a great compilation of the exploits easily done nowadays. At least I hope it was not an epeen video. It was a simple reinforced request for ZOS to fix their sh... stuff.

EDIT: and a 50% damage nerf debuff is not a fix. If you need twice as long now, it still doesn't change the fact that the other guy will not be able to return in kind and will probably die the same, just slower.

If you want epeen videos, go watch my dk videos

OMG, now you go after DK'S , LMFAO. Your main must be a Sorc. Dude, go play on the pts. Video that. Then come back with claims of NBS and DKs being OP. So do you consider Sorc's Under Powered? If you say yes, then your playing on a totally different ESO server then the other 90% of us. You say burst damage! Wtf do Sorcs pull off all the while running shields the qhole time that scale off of their dps resorce that have to be burst down to kill them. Compared to Sorc's, stam NBS are weak.and will become more so in 1.7. Please, don't try to hide the fact that this is another "NERF" NB thread.

Scroll down and read my signature..... My main is a DK, and has been since beta. My sorc isn't even V14. Did I say anything about sorcs?? Sorcs are super strong atm but their burst is COUNTERED by wearing nirn. And please stop talking about PTS, this discussion is about the current game on live.

olsborg wrote: »

The only problem I have with nightblades (and all stambuilds) is the constant rolldodging(and vigor spam) and nirnhoned, without that the tables would be alot more balanced.