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Pop locked mean different numbers for each faction?

Lord_Draevan
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So on NA Azura's Star a tonight the concensus seems to be in DC zone chat that pop locked means different amounts for each faction, in this case they were saying that EP pop locked meant more players than DC pop locked, and that it'd been confirmed here on the forums by ZOS.
I checked with the search but couldn't find anything. Can anyone confirm or deny this? Seems a bit far-fetched to me, DC making excuses for getting creamed by EP's Emp push.
Edited by Lord_Draevan on August 8, 2015 12:33AM
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  • ijacksparrowed
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    lol...DC is making pathetic excuses to why EP was crowned emp during prime-time...

  • Lord_Draevan
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    lol...DC is making pathetic excuses to why EP was crowned emp during prime-time...

    That's what I was thinking too, people were saying "EP pop locked outnumber DC pop locked 4-1, devs confirmed it on forums" and I thought wtf...
    Edited by Lord_Draevan on August 8, 2015 12:34AM
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  • Reverb
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    I've never seen that said by anybody at zeni, if it had, it would still be talked about. A lot.

    It's possible for pops to vary even when locked, because the "locked" status appears before the faction is actually full. Thats why you can sometimes get into a locked campaign without going into a queue, even as a group. Sometimes one faction is locked with a queue, and another locked faction isn't actually at the cap (think 3 1/3 bars, not full lock).
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  • Paulhewhewria
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    Well I wasn't there,but if I had to guess what happened it was probably what I've seen happen to all of the factions at one time or another.DC just had pop-lock,but probably couldn't get everyone to pvp/work together.
  • IxSTALKERxI
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    lol never pay attention to half the crap people talk about in zone. 90% of them don't know what they are talking about.
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  • SC0TY999
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    The thing that makes me laugh is they cannot even give you a specific number as to what pop locked actually is.

    I asked Brian Wheeler to respond with some numbers on this, I nearly had kittens when he actually replied, however the reply wasn't quite what I hoped for.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1562383/#Comment_1562383
  • Lord_Draevan
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    SC0TY999 wrote: »
    The thing that makes me laugh is they cannot even give you a specific number as to what pop locked actually is.

    I asked Brian Wheeler to respond with some numbers on this, I nearly had kittens when he actually replied, however the reply wasn't quite what I hoped for.

    http://forums.elderscrollsonline.com/en/discussion/comment/1562383/#Comment_1562383

    It's weird because ZOS gave a specific number at launch. Pop lock was 600 players, so 1800 per campaign. Now they won't release the numbers, I wonder why...
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  • kevlarto_ESO
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    It is a soft cap until full, I do not think there is any difference in the final total between factions, my question is does people that travel to leader or friend get counted properly ?

    Some time I see a faction with 2 bars and they seem to be everywhere, and the faction pop locked I am standing around wondering where the heck is everyone with nothing going on, I doubt everyone is stuffed into cracked wood cave..LOL
  • nikolaj.lemcheb16_ESO
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    OMFG that talk on Azura started because I asked where all the DC where and someone in a joke suggested that the pop caps were different.

    It was a joke reacting to our shock at facing 3 organized EP zergs running and coordinating at the same time, while we had about 35 organized players and the rest were out there... somewhere?
  • Winnamine
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    I've seen that theory floated frequently in zone chats.
    I think it does go back to that thread where someone asked the devs to tell us exactly what the pop cap is, and they responded with a graph showing relative faction populations over a space of time, but declined to reveal what the pop cap is, or how many players were represented in the graph.
    The graph shows EP continually outnumbering both DC and AD, so I assume that through a mixture of TLDNR forum readers and the telephone game in zone chat, that reply somehow became, "EP has more players...because their pop cap is higher...the devs said so on the forums."
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  • WolfgangArmadeus
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    Lol... each faction has the same max pop numbers... EP just has the most players in general, meaning the most guilds and most organized groups as well... I play pvp until the peak hours hit and the ep zergs start... just hate taking the map then losing the map while your asleep... over and over again... PVP is terrible during peak hours...
  • Turelus
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    Also remember that the lock symbol first appears when a campaign is 90% full.

    With other though yeah... it's kind of sad ZOS don't feel they can trust us with the actual Cyrodiil max numbers now. We know it's much lower than it was advertised at and released at. We know it was done for good reasons, but it's still somewhat sad that we can't just have an official answer on it.
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  • Cathexis
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    If someone could make an addon that

    - counts players encountered by verifying their distinct character name
    - shares that information with other add-on users they encounter
    - expires specific documented usernames after 5-10 minutes of inactivity.

    We could get approximations of populations.


    That said, I have definitely been logged in at times where we are all pop locked and its like (5:1) ratio of ( other factions : dc )
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  • Yakidafi
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    I guess this is an american issue, seem to be below european IQ, aswell as time of post *kappa*
    Edited by Yakidafi on August 10, 2015 12:43AM
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