@Dekkameron Such a cool armor too xD
@Farorin Not sure if it will redeem the character for you, but here goes. Jorunn -is- actually trying really hard. When I came across some lore books and started listening to the dialogue. It came to the surface he atually isn't really a warrior... He is a bard. I am not entirely sure if it is even known how he defeated his brother after they competed for the throne when their older sister died. I found the character a bit odd at first, but when reading into it a little, I found the thought of the Nords basically having a poet as their king quite amusing. ^^

STIBBONS!!! for both LOL

Jared_lindsey86_ESO wrote: »

Dislke

Sai Sahan: Our enemy is the greatest necromancer of Tamriel and this clown hides the Amulet of Kings in an undead infested ruin (sancre tor). Couldn't he have placed it in the Priory of the Eight!

Well, he hid it where he hid it and then as Mannimarco's power came to light, he turned the dead into undead when he was after the amulet. I don't think it was known he was a necromancer even at the time of betraying the Companions.

For the record, I neither like nor dislike Sai.

Victus wrote: »

Well, he hid it where he hid it and then as Mannimarco's power came to light, he turned the dead into undead when he was after the amulet. I don't think it was known he was a necromancer even at the time of betraying the Companions.

Oh, he was !! Both Mannimarco and Vanus Galerion were pupils/students at the Psijic Order in Arthaeum in their youth. Necromancy at that time was taboo at the Order and Mannimarco insisted on studying/practicing it. That got him thrown out of the Psijic Order and that's when he started the Worm Cult thing.

Vanus Galerion too left the order a few years later. He thought that the art of magic should be taught and spread and made available to everyone, whereas the Psijic Order thought it had to be kept among the elite of wizards. That's why Galerion founded the Mages' Guild with schools of magic everywhere.

However, Vanus remained "friends" with the Psijics whereas Mannimarco became their enemy (and Vanus Galerion's personal worst enemy).

So yes it was known at the time that Mannimarco was into necromancy. Sai Sahan might not have been aware of it though... I mean, he studied muscles, combat, heroism and resistance, not history or philosophy or politic or magic.

I like Sai Sahan very much. But that's because I'm always fond of "good strong guys" stereotype, and since I'm an heterosexual woman I fall for him and not for Lyris ;-)

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

Victus wrote: »

Well, he hid it where he hid it and then as Mannimarco's power came to light, he turned the dead into undead when he was after the amulet. I don't think it was known he was a necromancer even at the time of betraying the Companions.

Oh, he was !! Both Mannimarco and Vanus Galerion were pupils/students at the Psijic Order in Arthaeum in their youth. Necromancy at that time was taboo at the Order and Mannimarco insisted on studying/practicing it. That got it thrown out of the Psijic Order and that's when he started the Worm Cult thing.

Vanus Galerion too left the order a few years later. He thought that the art of magic should be taught and spread and made available to everyone, whereas the Psijic Order thought it had to be kept among the elite of wizards. That's why Galerion founded the Mages' Guild with magic schools everywhere.

However, Vanus remained "friends" with the Psijics whereas Mannimarco became their enemy (and Vanus Galerion's personal worst enemy).

So yes it was known at the time that Mannimarco was into necromancy. Sai Sahan might not have been aware of it though... I mean, he studied muscles, combat, heroism and resistance, not history or philosophy or politic or magic.

I like Sai Sahan very much. But that's because I'm always fond of "good strong guys" stereotype, and since I'm an heterosexual woman I fall for him and not for Lyris ;-)

Ah okay then! Yeah it doesn't make sense then to hide the amulet from a necromancer in a tomb. Unless he thought it would be the last place Mannimarco would look? lol

adriant1978 wrote: »

"Such lovely plants ..." in Elden Root.

lol, I always thought that Khajiit said "Such lovely pants..." as I imagined him at the Clothier trying them out.

Least favourite has to be dringoth if only for the atrocious voice acting. Favourite? Perhaps Zur or some othe khajiit.

adriant1978 wrote: »

3) King Laloriaran Dynar - if Ayrenn is Mary Sue then this guy is Marty Stu. Does he have any faults at all?

His armor.

My favorite must be Sheogorath. Dunno who I dislike the most though, noone stuck around enough to really annoy me. Perhaps the banker NPCs that would spam you the same voiced sentence over and over again every time you needed to access your bank etc.

Ghanima_Atreides wrote: »

anitajoneb17_ESO wrote: »

So yes it was known at the time that Mannimarco was into necromancy. Sai Sahan might not have been aware of it though... I mean, he studied muscles, combat, heroism and resistance, not history or philosophy or politic or magic.

I find it hard to believe he didn't know; he and Mannimarco were part of the same close-knit group of adventurers and something like Mannimarco's past history with the Psijics would have come up. No, I think Sai dun goofed and even Lyris picks him up on it.

Except for the fact that its the sacred tomb of kings and emperors and heroes, blessed by Stendar and the Divines? No I'm sure it had nothing to do with that...

Farorin wrote: »

The wood Elf Known as Finnedrin: HE HAS BEEN IN THE STOCKS FOR FAR TOO LONG!!! LET THE POOR GUY OUT ALREADY!

The other day we (the group I game with) were bopping around in Rawl'kla (probably misspelled, sorry) and after hearing that for the XXth time, I started wondering ... maybe he isn't really in the stocks at all.

Because it's got to be humiliating for the Altmer, to hear just exactly how he was so humiliated shouted out in detail over and over.

Isarii wrote: »

Favorite: Razum-Dar, because of course it is

Most Hated: Aelif. I hate everything about Aelif, but mostly it's that she features some of the worst voice acting ever recorded. It's absolutely grating to listening to, and is honestly the single most dreadful part of rerolling a new character.

If you want bad voice acting then for my money that award needs to go to Neramo. Good freaking god, Captain Kirk used less emphasis on words. Everything he says includes a pitch change "They used A WELKYN STONE" or "We have TO GET INSIDE" Every. Single. Line. Contains drama and over the top emphatic coloring. God, I wish I could kill that *** just to shut him up.

Runaan wrote: »

Just out of curiosity name a couple of characters which you like the most and some you don't really like - the reason behind it would also be welcomed. Let me start it off.

My favorite NPCs are:
1) Abnur Tharn (His cynism, sarcasm is a great tool to shape his character, also he is the most memorable one out of all the Companions. He doesn't just tell you what you want to hear, he sees things are they are and he likes to joke around and I especially loved the few lines he had towards Lyris.)

Almost everything that comes out of Abnur's mouth is pure gold. But, he really shines when you actually get all of the Companions together, and they start playing off one another. Literally the only time in the game I actually like Lyris is when she and Tharn are sniping at each other in the late game missions.

Also, that Abnur has specific dialog for the various members of the Tharn family you snuff in the various alliance storylines is amazing and hilarious.

Runaan wrote: »

2) Cadwell (I suppose a great majority of players loves thi character, to me it's his way of seeing things, his "heoric" lines he has and well... I guess there's not much to say other than that... JOLLY GOOD!)

Cadwell is a character that really shouldn't work. I'd chalk it up to John Cleese. The guy is fantastic.

Runaan wrote: »

3) Razum-dar (I guess he's grown onto me, I always looked forward to get to quest with him. Not to mention his voice acting really reminds me of Ezio from AC series and he also has some really funny lines)

Fun trivia, Raz's voice actor is actually the same actor that voiced Molag Bal in Skyrim.

Runaan wrote: »

4) King Lalorian Dynar (A proud Ayleid and a great leader, it was a really cool feeling to battle Molag Bal alongside him... and his final lines, that almost made me drop one manly tear.)

Ironically, I actually like him better in the Covenant plotline than in Cold Harbour.

Runaan wrote: »

5) Mannimarco (I was adoring his lust for power and his plans to "outscheme the God of Schemes", it is a really an interesting villain and I wish to see more of him in ESO)

Mannimarco never really worked for me.

Runaan wrote: »

6) Queen Ayrenn (Out of the three alliance leaders, she seems to be the most respectful towards other races, unlike Nords for instance. Whereas Jorrun and Emeric seem to be rather shortsighted compared to Ayrenn. I clearly remember Ayrenn in the Orrery, walking out in a beam of light, describing seeing a Dominion as the fair and just rule of the Tamriel, which she hopes to live to see. Suffice to say that she is more open minded about what's always going on.)
7) Angof the Undying (The first time I got to Coldharbour on my EP character, I wasn't aware of his doings in Daggerfall but I instantly knew I will choose him over any other of the three, Thaliik and Estre. His sort of russian-like accent made him a bit unique, his personality seemed to have changed in Coldharbour and he showed that he can be a great person and so since then I always went with Angof.)

Interestingly, Estre actually has different dialog if you killed her or not, where she'll actually try to fool you into thinking she had popular support to be Queen, if you don't know any better.

But, I do really love the Cliffs of Failure, because it really elevates Angof from a one dimensional villain into a fairly compelling character. And that's rare enough that it sticks with me.

Runaan wrote: »

And the NPCs I don't particularly like:
1) Lyris Titanborn (IMHO the simple, good "guy" character that fears no evil, aids you whenever you need, the every games', movies' and books' protagonist or the character that is simply way too good and moral and something about her doesn't feel right to me tho, lol. Maybe it's the fact that she is really so predictable, easy to know what to expect from her. I feel like I'm gonna get bashed for this)

I think Jennifer Hale did a good job with the character it's just... well, Jennifer Hale doing another round of very bland, generic, badass.

Runaan wrote: »

2) Merric at-Aswala (Now I can't really say I dislike him or hate him, rather than I am really annoyed by his voice acting, seems like he's from the Stone Age. "I believe so, oh my comrade", "Truly? What have you learned?". Old school type of narrating not fitting into the game that well to me, too noble and hesitant but otherwise a he makes a good Guildmaster)

I kinda like Merric. I think that might be up to Merric also having Raz's VA. He is a very straightforward, "hit anything evil until it stops twitching and screaming" type. But, he never struck me as horribly out of place.

Runaan wrote: »

3) King Emeric (I have gone through DC only two times and it was a year ago so I can't really speak from my recent experience but a thing I remember about him and really hate, is that you always have to save him, all the time. Wherever he goes he gets captured or into trouble and even with dozens of Lion Guards behind his back he still wanted me to aid him. Walking around in his heavy armor, not taking a swing and his personality is really distant to me. He really thinks high of himself and talks to a person as if he was trying to get on top of them, to let them know he's the 'King' here, this forced respect towards him is what makes me think he's not a good leader)

It's really interesting you're looking at Emeric that way. The perspective I've always gotten of him was as a reluctant leader, who never really wanted to be King and is weighed down with insecurities that he's spent most of his life masking. He is distant, but that's from being king, and being treated as king, not from personal arrogance.

He and Jorunn both have a bad habit of becoming damsels in distress, which I think is a subtle dig at the cliche, since it doesn't really happen with Ayrenn, but, with Emeric it gets hauled out twice in Stormhaven, and then again in Bangkorai, which starts to feel lazy after awhile.

Runaan wrote: »

That's it for my list, so what are yours favorite and well... less favorite NPCs?

Sorry, that's more a response to your list than my own.