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Want to pvp but feel I'm wasting time if not grinding cp...
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I have limited play time. After getting to vr14 I would have liked to be able to try and improve my pvp skill by actually pvp'ing. But with the CP system as it currently I feel that forever grinding pve mobs is my only route to not being woefully Underpowered in pvp. The problem that I'm having is... I find ESO pvp to be superior to WoWs.. but i dont find grinding stupid mobs to be superior to WoWs pvp. Zenimax how long till you address this? If it's going to be a really long time.. well I will just go back to WoW. At least they do pvp end game correctly.. and within a month or two you are totally balanced with other pvp'ers.
Zenimax CP were a neat idea to progress your character. But NO good pvp game creates monstrous imbalances.
Either: 1) create NO cp Vet campaigns... or vet campaigns where everyone is alotted a certain # of CP when in cryodiil. (this allows for diverse builds without imbalances)
2) Cap the CP. Only increase it by certain amounts every 3 months or so. And make it MUCH easier to catch up. Like within a month or two a max vet level player should be able to be on par with anyone (outside of skill).
As I said earlier. CP was a neat idea. But it should have been to allow for more diverse builds.. NOT to allow players to have huge advantages over others with little hope of closing that gap in time frames similar to other online mmo's that have pvp.
Zenimax CP were a neat idea to progress your character. But NO good pvp game creates monstrous imbalances.
Either: 1) create NO cp Vet campaigns... or vet campaigns where everyone is alotted a certain # of CP when in cryodiil. (this allows for diverse builds without imbalances)
2) Cap the CP. Only increase it by certain amounts every 3 months or so. And make it MUCH easier to catch up. Like within a month or two a max vet level player should be able to be on par with anyone (outside of skill).
As I said earlier. CP was a neat idea. But it should have been to allow for more diverse builds.. NOT to allow players to have huge advantages over others with little hope of closing that gap in time frames similar to other online mmo's that have pvp.
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VincentBlanquin✭✭✭yeah, but he still need playstyle which allow him gather CPs
what about doing city quests at cyrodiil? they get solid xp and are pvp related, because there is constant threat to be attacked by someone or opportunity attack someone. you will learn sneak, movement, positioning, stealth. i am doing this to let my CPs flow a bit, although i have only 180 currentlyIrwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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I now have one character who is V3; and about 20 CP. Lately I have been doing some Cyrodiil exploring and occasional PvPing (didn't like it till I got swept along defending keeps under a really good leader/emperor).
Go for the fun. Look at it this way, you will never catch up to the compulsive 20 hour a day folks; and I'd bet on someone like Sypher with no/minimal CP over a moderate player with a bunch of CPs any day. Skill really does matter.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis2 -
andreasv✭✭✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: ». . . what about doing city quests at cyrodiil? . . . there is constant threat to be attacked by someone or opportunity attack someone . . .
Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
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Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
I hate those guys!
Earlier today I was watching my sweetie quest in Cyrodiil; he was playing a breton/stamina/templar EP, doing dailys in Cyrodiil. Also there (among a lot of EP folks) was a lvl 12 AD player getting dailies and NOT getting attacked or ganked by the many EP folks around.
It was really nice to see.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
andreasv✭✭✭✭✭newtinmpls wrote: »
Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
I hate those guys!
Earlier today I was watching my sweetie quest in Cyrodiil; he was playing a breton/stamina/templar EP, doing dailys in Cyrodiil. Also there (among a lot of EP folks) was a lvl 12 AD player getting dailies and NOT getting attacked or ganked by the many EP folks around.
It was really nice to see.
Those are the situations I love as well. Returning a quest and listening to the NPC and when you finish there's the "enemy" suddenly a few inches next to you.
Glad these things are happening to others as well.
However, if that guy is anywhere near a keep it's all out attack and die you ****** ** * **** After all it's mainly a PvP area
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Most of us aren't and will never be Sypher. An average player with a bunch of CP vs an average player with none... What then? Luckily, Cyrodiil favors group PvP, so the differences aren't as noticable as in 1v1.newtinmpls wrote: »Go for the fun. Look at it this way, you will never catch up to the compulsive 20 hour a day folks; and I'd bet on someone like Sypher with no/minimal CP over a moderate player with a bunch of CPs any day. Skill really does matter.
I share your general view, though. I gave up on trying to catch up, I'm slow and I've always been behind, CPs are no different. So I don't care about them and just do what I like. That said, I'd support a non-CP campaign in the name of fairness (and I definitely want CP disabled in non-vet).Edited by Rosveen on August 7, 2015 8:17AM0 -
VincentBlanquin✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: ». . . what about doing city quests at cyrodiil? . . . there is constant threat to be attacked by someone or opportunity attack someone . . .
Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
I hate those guys!
OMG its ridiculous
i am known here as creator of megathread "please dont gank newbies at quests NPC(when they turning quests)" and make very hard fights there with hardcores folks. You can search here on forum.
point is these quests are meant to provide small scale fights and ask for safety is bad. but i agree that attacking newbies in the middle of turning quest is scum or even roaming around there to prevent them turning that quests is stupid, these newbies want to be vr14 in reasonable timeframe
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VincentBlanquin✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: ». . . what about doing city quests at cyrodiil? . . . there is constant threat to be attacked by someone or opportunity attack someone . . .
Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
I hate those guys!
Uh, I hate those guys who won't even defend themselves. Boring. Totally destroys my gameplay of going around Cyrodiil and killing my enemies. Plus in 9 times out of 10 any PvE players you leave alone will attack you immediately once they outnumber you at least 5:1, they just want peace when it suits them
Just saying, I'm not having any of that diplomacy crap anymore. When I kill you it's because I too am doing the quests there and you are in another faction, I have no interest in letting you go so that you can gather your 10 friends.
to be realistic whenever last time you see someone call 10 friends? and what you can say to nightblade when you are waiting there with detection potion slotted? and please we are talking about pvp newbies not pve playersIrwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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Skiserony✭✭✭Just play pvp and have fun. Who cares if you die?
I know it's a game, bur you don't alway have to win to have fun
But it's not fun anymore when you get killed every single time because of this reason. Doesn't matter that you die, but dying over and over again without being able to do much on the field, I imagine that is really frustrating.0 -
andreasv✭✭✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: ». . . what about doing city quests at cyrodiil? . . . there is constant threat to be attacked by someone or opportunity attack someone . . .
Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
I hate those guys!
Uh, I hate those guys who won't even defend themselves. Boring. Totally destroys my gameplay of going around Cyrodiil and killing my enemies. Plus in 9 times out of 10 any PvE players you leave alone will attack you immediately once they outnumber you at least 5:1, they just want peace when it suits them
Just saying, I'm not having any of that diplomacy crap anymore. When I kill you it's because I too am doing the quests there and you are in another faction, I have no interest in letting you go so that you can gather your 10 friends.
Sorry but not everyone is a PvP-pro but maybe a casual PvPer who mainly wants to get a few achievements without getting killed because some paranoid player assumes a group of enemies behind every tree.
I also don't get your argument of the player gathering his/her friends. You don't need to physically pick up other players, there's chat you know.
Anyway, you kill the newbie and enjoy yourself.0 -
andreasv✭✭✭✭✭Just play pvp and have fun. Who cares if you die?
I know it's a game, bur you don't alway have to win to have fun
But it's not fun anymore when you get killed every single time because of this reason. Doesn't matter that you die, but dying over and over again without being able to do much on the field, I imagine that is really frustrating.
I don't think it's a CP issue if you die continuously in every battle situation. I've got only a few CPs on my V9 Mage but do well in group situations. There may be a problem with the build in general if that happens.
I feel that CPs only matter in 1v1 fights.0 -
Skiserony✭✭✭Just play pvp and have fun. Who cares if you die?
I know it's a game, bur you don't alway have to win to have fun
But it's not fun anymore when you get killed every single time because of this reason. Doesn't matter that you die, but dying over and over again without being able to do much on the field, I imagine that is really frustrating.
I don't think it's a CP issue if you die continuously in every battle situation. I've got only a few CPs on my V9 Mage but do well in group situations. There may be a problem with the build in general if that happens.
I feel that CPs only matter in 1v1 fights.
The problem is, for someone who is new to pvp, the cp amount actually does matter a lot while he has very few of them. I have a V9 NB that performs well in PvP with lesser CP than most, but that's because I've been PvPing since launch. And even now I encounter enemy players I cannot win from because of there high amount of cp.
It's not necessarily the build, but the practice and skills. It's like putting a 18 year old guy for first the first time in a cagefight against a 30 years old mma fighter that weighs 120kilos.0 -
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Uh, I hate those guys who won't even defend themselves. Boring. Totally destroys my gameplay of going around Cyrodiil and killing my enemies. Plus in 9 times out of 10 any PvE players you leave alone will attack you immediately once they outnumber you at least 5:1
Depends on what you mean by "defend themselves" not being combat trained in either real or game life my first reaction to being attacked by an opposing player is to panic
Then by the time I have gotten my act together enough to hit a key, between my personal lag time and the computer's lag time, my character is already dead.
If you attack me from a distance, and give me a sec sure I'll try to put up a fight ... which I will be the first to admit that I'm not skilled at. But then how would you know - and I suppose no one wants to take the chance that it might be some Sypher-level player and you want all the advantage you can get.Tenesi Faryon of Telvanni - Dunmer Sorceress who deliberately sought sacrifice into Cold Harbor to rescue her beloved.
Hisa Ni Caemaire - Altmer Sorceress, member of the Order Draconis and Adept of the House of Dibella.
Broken Branch Toothmaul - goblin (for my goblin characters, I use either orsimer or bosmer templates) Templar, member of the Order Draconis and persistently unskilled pickpocket
Mol gro Durga - Orsimer Socerer/Battlemage who died the first time when the Nibenay Valley chapterhouse of the Order Draconis was destroyed, then went back to Cold Harbor to rescue his second/partner who was still captive. He overestimated his resistance to the hopelessness of Oblivion, about to give up, and looked up to see the golden glow of atherius surrounding a beautiful young woman who extended her hand to him and said "I can help you". He carried Fianna Kingsley out of Cold Harbor on his shoulder. He carried Alvard Stower under one arm. He also irritated the Prophet who had intended the portal for only Mol and Lyris.***Order Draconis - well c'mon there has to be some explanation for all those dragon tattoos.
House of Dibella - If you have ever seen or read "Memoirs of a Geisha" that's just the beginning...
Nibenay Valley Chapterhouse - Where now stands only desolate ground and a dolmen there once was a thriving community supporting one of the major chapterhouses of the Order Draconis0 -
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If I had 10 friends to call, I wouldn't be questing in Cyrodiil alone.VincentBlanquin wrote: ». . . what about doing city quests at cyrodiil? . . . there is constant threat to be attacked by someone or opportunity attack someone . . .
Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest.
I hate those guys!
Uh, I hate those guys who won't even defend themselves. Boring. Totally destroys my gameplay of going around Cyrodiil and killing my enemies. Plus in 9 times out of 10 any PvE players you leave alone will attack you immediately once they outnumber you at least 5:1, they just want peace when it suits them
Just saying, I'm not having any of that diplomacy crap anymore. When I kill you it's because I too am doing the quests there and you are in another faction, I have no interest in letting you go so that you can gather your 10 friends.
I don't fight back because I know I'll lose. That's not my unfounded fear, it's previous experience. Better to let them kill me quickly and get it over with. I do fight when I sense I stand a chance. Like when that v6 nightblade jumped me, wtf was that. Either it was an instinctive reaction or he thought I was one of those clothies too distracted to put up a shield. Anyhow, that's how it works for me. My one PvP char will fight back always because she's prepared, the others just want to quest in peace. Sorry for being no fun. Your attack was no fun to me either, so we're even.2 -
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I found many guys around quest-NPCs or waiting for dungeon bosses in PvP - it was clear for me that they're questing/doing achievements. They usually attacked me on sight, but since I didn't wanted "to be that guy who forced them to travel the whole map again" I started to avoid it giving clear signal they have a chance to be around in peace. After dodging for almost a minute, I eventually killed them, assuming they actually want to fight. A rage-whisper came afterwards, "because they were only questing". They were given 3 chances to go - seriously, some people?! Happened numerous times. Read your opponents, and have a cookie.Please don't be one of those guys. Let players who want to quest in Cyrodiil do exactly that. Attack them if you want but stop if they are not defending themselves and definitely don't wait until they come back to return a quest. I hate those guys!
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andreasv✭✭✭✭✭I found many guys around quest-NPCs or waiting for dungeon bosses in PvP - it was clear for me that they're questing/doing achievements. They usually attacked me on sight, but since I didn't wanted "to be that guy who forced them to travel the whole map again" I started to avoid it giving clear signal they have a chance to be around in peace. After dodging for almost a minute, I eventually killed them, assuming they actually want to fight. A rage-whisper came afterwards, "because they were only questing". They were given 3 chances to go - seriously, some people?! Happened numerous times. Read your opponents, and have a cookie.
Well, if they attack you and ignore clear signals that you would let them do their questing; get rid of them it's their own fault. I don't mind if someone in a quest area jumps up and down in front of me showing he/she wants a duel. I just hate it when I try to return a quest and get attacked / ganked over and over again by a V14 with half a year of CPs collected. I admire your skill and / or time invested in the game but please just give me 5 seconds with the NPC and I'm gone.
BTW, sorry to turn the conversation into this off-topic debate.0 -
VincentBlanquin✭✭✭whats up pppontus? i though you are good enough to defend yourselfEdited by VincentBlanquin on August 7, 2015 11:58AMIrwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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andreasv✭✭✭✭✭I found many guys around quest-NPCs or waiting for dungeon bosses in PvP - it was clear for me that they're questing/doing achievements. They usually attacked me on sight, but since I didn't wanted "to be that guy who forced them to travel the whole map again" I started to avoid it giving clear signal they have a chance to be around in peace. After dodging for almost a minute, I eventually killed them, assuming they actually want to fight. A rage-whisper came afterwards, "because they were only questing". They were given 3 chances to go - seriously, some people?! Happened numerous times. Read your opponents, and have a cookie.
Well, if they attack you and ignore clear signals that you would let them do their questing; get rid of them it's their own fault. I don't mind if someone in a quest area jumps up and down in front of me showing he/she wants a duel. I just hate it when I try to return a quest and get attacked / ganked over and over again by a V14 with half a year of CPs collected. I admire your skill and / or time invested in the game but please just give me 5 seconds with the NPC and I'm gone.
BTW, sorry to turn the conversation into this off-topic debate.VincentBlanquin wrote: »whats up pppontus? i though you are good enough to defend yourself
Well, that's what I'm saying though .. they don't attack when they have a 1v1 or even a 3v1, they wait until they have a 5v1 at the minimum to jump. That's why I kill people right away nowadays, because every time I don't - they end up eventually accumulating 5+ of them and killing me
So if anything, you have all those idiots to blame if I ever do rip you apart.. sorry, but it's not only pvpers who are idiots
You've got a point there. Maybe I'd act differently if I had those experiences. It's sad to see you're on EU server as well as I've got positive or fair play examples most of the time. Anyway, maybe once in a while you will resist the urge to stomp that guy who directly runs to an NPC especially if it's the EP mage in red and white gear 0 -
VincentBlanquin✭✭✭I found many guys around quest-NPCs or waiting for dungeon bosses in PvP - it was clear for me that they're questing/doing achievements. They usually attacked me on sight, but since I didn't wanted "to be that guy who forced them to travel the whole map again" I started to avoid it giving clear signal they have a chance to be around in peace. After dodging for almost a minute, I eventually killed them, assuming they actually want to fight. A rage-whisper came afterwards, "because they were only questing". They were given 3 chances to go - seriously, some people?! Happened numerous times. Read your opponents, and have a cookie.
Well, if they attack you and ignore clear signals that you would let them do their questing; get rid of them it's their own fault. I don't mind if someone in a quest area jumps up and down in front of me showing he/she wants a duel. I just hate it when I try to return a quest and get attacked / ganked over and over again by a V14 with half a year of CPs collected. I admire your skill and / or time invested in the game but please just give me 5 seconds with the NPC and I'm gone.
BTW, sorry to turn the conversation into this off-topic debate.VincentBlanquin wrote: »whats up pppontus? i though you are good enough to defend yourself
Well, that's what I'm saying though .. they don't attack when they have a 1v1 or even a 3v1, they wait until they have a 5v1 at the minimum to jump. That's why I kill people right away nowadays, because every time I don't - they end up eventually accumulating 5+ of them and killing me
So if anything, you have all those idiots to blame if I ever do rip you apart.. sorry, but it's not only pvpers who are idiots
i must admit that is strong argument and if you are very far from your spawn point you dont want to risk be killed, its understandable. otherwise, if you roflstomping someone 5 min before you cant expect he will not join another fight against you, quite the opposite...
if you are questing there and kill someone along the way, its normal. what makes me mad jerks roaming between Sylvian and Victoria at Cheydinhall and if some pvp newbie reveal himself when turning quest, they will roflstomping him.
Edited by VincentBlanquin on August 7, 2015 12:39PMIrwen Vincinter - Nord - Dragonknight
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VincentBlanquin✭✭✭VincentBlanquin wrote: »I found many guys around quest-NPCs or waiting for dungeon bosses in PvP - it was clear for me that they're questing/doing achievements. They usually attacked me on sight, but since I didn't wanted "to be that guy who forced them to travel the whole map again" I started to avoid it giving clear signal they have a chance to be around in peace. After dodging for almost a minute, I eventually killed them, assuming they actually want to fight. A rage-whisper came afterwards, "because they were only questing". They were given 3 chances to go - seriously, some people?! Happened numerous times. Read your opponents, and have a cookie.
Well, if they attack you and ignore clear signals that you would let them do their questing; get rid of them it's their own fault. I don't mind if someone in a quest area jumps up and down in front of me showing he/she wants a duel. I just hate it when I try to return a quest and get attacked / ganked over and over again by a V14 with half a year of CPs collected. I admire your skill and / or time invested in the game but please just give me 5 seconds with the NPC and I'm gone.
BTW, sorry to turn the conversation into this off-topic debate.VincentBlanquin wrote: »whats up pppontus? i though you are good enough to defend yourself
Well, that's what I'm saying though .. they don't attack when they have a 1v1 or even a 3v1, they wait until they have a 5v1 at the minimum to jump. That's why I kill people right away nowadays, because every time I don't - they end up eventually accumulating 5+ of them and killing me
So if anything, you have all those idiots to blame if I ever do rip you apart.. sorry, but it's not only pvpers who are idiots
i must admit that is strong argument and if you are very far from your spawn point you dont want to risk be killed, its understandable. otherwise, if you roflstomping someone 5 min before you cant expect he will not join another fight against you, quite the opposite...
if you are questing there and kill someone along the way, its normal. what makes me mad jerks roaming between Sylvian and Victoria at Cheydinhall and if some pvp newbie reveal himself when turning quest, they will roflstomping him.
Ofc, as I said at first, I only go to the quest areas if I wanna quest myself. I don't really enjoy killing people who don't defend themselves either
I just wanted to explain why I usually kill people I run into, so I don't have to be killed myself basically!
but when you are at chorrol and your aliance owning Dragonclaw, its not that big risk right? if you exclude damage to ego
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What I meant is that I don't mind not engaging in a fight with them, but when they clearly ask for it and then rage-whisper after being killed that they were "only questing", it's a bit WTFish.
Ofc, as I said at first, I only go to the quest areas if I wanna quest myself. I don't really enjoy killing people who don't defend themselves eitherVincentBlanquin wrote: »
i must admit that is strong argument and if you are very far from your spawn point you dont want to risk be killed, its understandable. otherwise, if you roflstomping someone 5 min before you cant expect he will not join another fight against you, quite the opposite...
Well, if they attack you and ignore clear signals that you would let them do their questing; get rid of them it's their own fault. I don't mind if someone in a quest area jumps up and down in front of me showing he/she wants a duel. I just hate it when I try to return a quest and get attacked / ganked over and over again by a V14 with half a year of CPs collected. I admire your skill and / or time invested in the game but please just give me 5 seconds with the NPC and I'm gone.I found many guys around quest-NPCs or waiting for dungeon bosses in PvP - it was clear for me that they're questing/doing achievements. They usually attacked me on sight, but since I didn't wanted "to be that guy who forced them to travel the whole map again" I started to avoid it giving clear signal they have a chance to be around in peace. After dodging for almost a minute, I eventually killed them, assuming they actually want to fight. A rage-whisper came afterwards, "because they were only questing". They were given 3 chances to go - seriously, some people?! Happened numerous times. Read your opponents, and have a cookie.
BTW, sorry to turn the conversation into this off-topic debate.VincentBlanquin wrote: »whats up pppontus? i though you are good enough to defend yourself
Well, that's what I'm saying though .. they don't attack when they have a 1v1 or even a 3v1, they wait until they have a 5v1 at the minimum to jump. That's why I kill people right away nowadays, because every time I don't - they end up eventually accumulating 5+ of them and killing me
So if anything, you have all those idiots to blame if I ever do rip you apart.. sorry, but it's not only pvpers who are idiots
if you are questing there and kill someone along the way, its normal. what makes me mad jerks roaming between Sylvian and Victoria at Cheydinhall and if some pvp newbie reveal himself when turning quest, they will roflstomping him. I just wanted to explain why I usually kill people I run into, so I don't have to be killed myself basically!
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k2blader✭✭✭✭✭JMO the current situation of CPs being a great advantage in PvP would be a little more tolerable if forward camps were still available. It's the equestrian simulator I hate-- not dying per se.
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✭✭✭I just go into Cyrodiil to quest and get easy gold and XP and I've been lynched so many times by a large groups. I don't lose sleep over it to be honest. I was at a low level [15] and was constantly being lynched by groups that even contained some vets. What is funny though, is seeing each and every one of them jump off their horses to join in the beating. Like somehow without them doing so, the 5 high level guys already beating down on some noob aren't going to be capable.
Been in that position myself. Was in a large group and we ran into a low level player and I didn't even bother getting off my horse because there was already umpteen vets getting their jollies.0
