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Console: Should text chat be implemented with the IC patch?
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Eriquito3✭✭✭✭YesAce_of_Destiny wrote: »AaronLannister wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Basically...is it text chat that's needed or are there quality of life improvements that are driving people to fall back on adding text chat?WellJustSayin wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
I think a lot of people are skim reading and missing this...."for the most part"..."Some new"....
Glad that you've joined the forums and welcome!
Aside from your opinions on the poll, what thoughts do you have about the ongoing discussion?
I love voice chat, and it was a great decision on their part to add it because this game just feels much different than any other MMO I've played. However I do understand why some people feel the game needs text chat and I agree it would make grouping, trading and recruiting much easier. I believe it has to be 100% optional and should only be zone chat, lets compromise and have a zone chat with a trade channel. The game feels alittle flat in its current state. Id like to be able to link items in a chat window for selling or trading purposes. I will admit it wouldnt break the game if the feature isnt added, but it feels empty. The real issue I have is my guild tags not showing below my GT! grr (Different topic)
I will say though, I wasnt too keen on voice chat when I started the game because I suffer from anxiety and wearing a headset for too long bothers me(not for social reasons) but once I got over it and started PvPing in Cyrodil, I gave it a shot and I have to say its great and I love it as I stated above and I wouldnt touch text chat while im in Cyrodil, voice chat is a MUST for Cyrodil IMO.
Just a few weeks ago, I was grouped up on our way to attack a keep, a long ride mind you, and my horse is pretty darn slow so ofcourse I was falling behind while the others zoomed past me. A group of Daggers were waiting to gank me, about 3 or 4 of them. I quickly yell out in voice "Im being attacked, come help" and the group quickly turned around and charged in to save me. Had I wasted 10 seconds to type out "Hey Im being attacked, behind you guys help" while im standing there getting whacked by these 4 players, I would have been dead by the time they reacted to my cry (If they even had text window opened to read it) and had a long lonely ride back to the keep we were attacking. Instead I was able to call for help while popping potions and CCing this group just long enough for help to arrive. Those 10 seconds made all the difference.
I love voice chat, but Im 100% for text chat as an option, because this is an awesome game and why not have the best of both worlds. Text chat wouldnt/cant replace voice chat, but it adds to the game and hopefully we get some closure on this issue with a definitive answer, because at the very least, the people in support of the feature deserve that. They can then decide to move on or accept whichever stance ZOS ultimately takes.
Sorry to butt in here, but you people do realize that not everyone does PvP. I'm sure voice is awesome for PvP and Destiny and Call of Duty, but there are many of us that PvE and role play in mmorpgs. No one is trying to take away your voice chat at all. I really don't understand this all or nothing mentality, and the expectation that everyone must be forced to either listen to you on voice or spend the game in social isolation.
No problem to jump in....but don't confuse these comments and questions to their post with the topic at hand.
Its not an all or nothing, and actually its a O K..if text chat is needed can we look at doing it like this...thus my idea as a compromise.
Now in regards to my comments to the post above...they are new to the forums and I am personally interested in their point of view.
Honestly your compromise is not needed. The way text chat is on the PC version is perfect. It doesn't clutter the ai, it is able to be minimized and off screen. You are able to pm,ignore,reply, etc to people. It does the job a text chat is expected to do.
I here your compromise and I respectfully state that it is not needed because the text chat has built in features that remedy your conerns.
OK then what other ideas do you have.
Officially speaking ZOS has already declined what exists on PC for console.
no they haven't. Excuses don't count.NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
Basically...is it text chat that's needed or are there quality of life improvements that are driving people to fall back on adding text chat?WellJustSayin wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »
I think a lot of people are skim reading and missing this...."for the most part"..."Some new"....
Glad that you've joined the forums and welcome!
Aside from your opinions on the poll, what thoughts do you have about the ongoing discussion?
I love voice chat, and it was a great decision on their part to add it because this game just feels much different than any other MMO I've played. However I do understand why some people feel the game needs text chat and I agree it would make grouping, trading and recruiting much easier. I believe it has to be 100% optional and should only be zone chat, lets compromise and have a zone chat with a trade channel. The game feels alittle flat in its current state. Id like to be able to link items in a chat window for selling or trading purposes. I will admit it wouldnt break the game if the feature isnt added, but it feels empty. The real issue I have is my guild tags not showing below my GT! grr (Different topic)
I will say though, I wasnt too keen on voice chat when I started the game because I suffer from anxiety and wearing a headset for too long bothers me(not for social reasons) but once I got over it and started PvPing in Cyrodil, I gave it a shot and I have to say its great and I love it as I stated above and I wouldnt touch text chat while im in Cyrodil, voice chat is a MUST for Cyrodil IMO.
Just a few weeks ago, I was grouped up on our way to attack a keep, a long ride mind you, and my horse is pretty darn slow so ofcourse I was falling behind while the others zoomed past me. A group of Daggers were waiting to gank me, about 3 or 4 of them. I quickly yell out in voice "Im being attacked, come help" and the group quickly turned around and charged in to save me. Had I wasted 10 seconds to type out "Hey Im being attacked, behind you guys help" while im standing there getting whacked by these 4 players, I would have been dead by the time they reacted to my cry (If they even had text window opened to read it) and had a long lonely ride back to the keep we were attacking. Instead I was able to call for help while popping potions and CCing this group just long enough for help to arrive. Those 10 seconds made all the difference.
I love voice chat, but Im 100% for text chat as an option, because this is an awesome game and why not have the best of both worlds. Text chat wouldnt/cant replace voice chat, but it adds to the game and hopefully we get some closure on this issue with a definitive answer, because at the very least, the people in support of the feature deserve that. They can then decide to move on or accept whichever stance ZOS ultimately takes.
Sorry to butt in here, but you people do realize that not everyone does PvP. I'm sure voice is awesome for PvP and Destiny and Call of Duty, but there are many of us that PvE and role play in mmorpgs. No one is trying to take away your voice chat at all. I really don't understand this all or nothing mentality, and the expectation that everyone must be forced to either listen to you on voice or spend the game in social isolation.
No problem to jump in....but don't confuse these comments and questions to their post with the topic at hand.
Its not an all or nothing, and actually its a O K..if text chat is needed can we look at doing it like this...thus my idea as a compromise.
Now in regards to my comments to the post above...they are new to the forums and I am personally interested in their point of view.
Honestly your compromise is not needed. The way text chat is on the PC version is perfect. It doesn't clutter the ai, it is able to be minimized and off screen. You are able to pm,ignore,reply, etc to people. It does the job a text chat is expected to do.
I here your compromise and I respectfully state that it is not needed because the text chat has built in features that remedy your conerns.
OK then what other ideas do you have.
Officially speaking ZOS has already declined what exists on PC for console.
I already stated my ideas. And Zenimax never officially stated any of the sort.
Pc text chat is perfect for consoles. There is no need for a round about, the PC text chat solves just about everyone's issues and that is what we should request. It is the thing that will satisfy most of the community.
Actually folks, ZOS did say something to the effect of; "We are looking into adding some form of text based chatting. But, it will most likely not be in the form of a chatbaox.".
And, I am for the simple, reliable, easy to use, and OPTIONAL Textbox....just relaying what I saw ZOS say.
You would have to post that source, because I am b almost completely certain they were referring to the quick chat options we have right now when making that statement. Which we all know doesnt get the job done.
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✭✭✭✭YesWellJustSayin wrote: »
The vocal minority against text chat literally have nothing sound to stand on. We have asked them many times to explain their reasoning but they don't. They instead dance around the questions and then accuse us of being rude.
Im all for text chat as an option but I think chat bubbles are the solution for the role players
Chat Bubbles are already in the game. They fail terribly to do their job and do not provide players a means of communicating with anyone out of eyeshot of them. I have yet to see anyone in game actually using the quick chat options to communicate beyond the 'Do you want to group?' quick chat option.
Edited by Korah_Eaglecry on August 5, 2015 9:07PMPenniless Sellsword CompanyCaptain Paramount - Jorrhaq VhentKorith Eaglecry * Enrerion Aedihle * Laerinel Rhaev * Caius Berilius * Seylina Ithvala * H'Vak the GrimjawlTenarei Rhaev * Dazsh Ro Khar * Yynril Rothvani * Bathes-In-Coin * Anaelle Faerniil * Azjani Ma'LesAban Shahid Bakr * Kheshna gra-Gharbuk * Gallisten Bondurant * Etain Maquier * Atsu Kalame * Faulpia SeverinusWhat is better, to be born good, or to overcome your evil nature through great effort? - Paarthurnax2 -
Tholian1✭✭✭✭✭
✭Yes
I laugh when i try to respond to people when I can't talk and can only use yes and no.
Voice chat player: "hey man, how's it going?"
Quick Chat player: "Hello"
Voice chat player: "Oh you can't talk on voice today?"
Quick Chat player: "No"
Voice Chat player: "Why not?"
Quick Chat Player: "Attack the boss"
Voice chat player: "what? You want to go do a dungeon?"
QuickChat player: "no"
Voice chat player: "so lets group up and do something, what do you feel like doing?"
Quick chat player: "Heal Me"
Voice chat player: "what?"
Quick chat player: "tank the boss"
Voice chat player: "umm ok, well I have to go. Bye."
Quick chat player: "Goodbye"Edited by Tholian1 on August 5, 2015 9:21PMPS4 Pro NA7 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoI'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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sirhctpac✭✭✭YesI like voice chat; I would be furious if they removed it in favor of text chat only. The thing is, no one is asking for this. I can't seem to get the point across that between people who don't have mics and people who turn off voice then join dungeon/Craglorn/PvP queues, end game content is nearly impossible. I'm still convinced that most of the anti crowd aren't there yet and that those who are either aren't participating in the group only stuff or have an unusually large network of guildies.
I've discussed compromises and been excoriated for it by those on my side of this debate; there are hard-liners on both sides. That discussion was very informative though, as I suspected it might be. I engaged because I needed to see how much rancor would still be present on the anti side once all HUD cluttering concerns were eliminated. Now I know...Edited by ZOS_MatM on August 6, 2015 2:31AM1 -
Nosam✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.3 -
Nergie4242✭✭✭YesIt is not a discussion when you guys aggressively dismiss and deny anything anyone does contribute to the conversation. This thread is completely toxic to anyone who doesn't share your viewpoints. If your threads about text-chat keep getting locked, perhaps consider your behavior before blaming others.
This is how you guys are coming across... lol.
We get it. You don't like voice chat and would prefer text chat like they have on PC, but ESO has sold almost two million copies on consoles so forgive me if your 400 poll contributors doesn't represent (to me) a valid sampling of ESO players. People passionate about it are obviously going to jump in and contribute, but the average player (ie he never goes to the forums) doesn't care.
This will be my last post in this thread, like many others you guys have caused me to throw up my hands and just move on because you want what you want, and us all going around in this circle is just a huge waste of time.
I like voice chat; I would be furious if they removed it in favor of text chat only. The thing is, no one is asking for this. I can't seem to get the point across that between people who don't have mics and people who turn off voice then join dungeon/Craglorn/PvP queues, end game content is nearly impossible. I'm still convinced that most of the anti crowd aren't there yet and that those who are either aren't participating in the group only stuff or have an unusually large network of guildies.
I've discussed compromises and been excoriated for it by those on my side of this debate; there are hard-liners on both sides. That discussion was very informative though, as I suspected it might be. I engaged because I needed to see how much rancor would still be present on the anti side once all HUD cluttering concerns were eliminated. Now I know...
I have not seen one post from anyone wanting the removal of voice chat. I want text chat for organisation. Voice for when in a group. Its that simple.You give me a chat box ZOS and I'll start giving you my money again.1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoNewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Nosam✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Very.
Final Fantasy 11 on PS2 and Xbox , Final Fantasy 14 on PS3 , PS4 , DCUO on PS3 and PS4 all have text chat. I hear Neverwinter on Xbox 1 does also. Please list me the major mmorpg's on console that do not have text chat as an option. Many people play with text only on consoles and pc's. And they still communicate. Again I ask you to explain how I am "wrong" and it's not necessary for people like me who don't want to hear burps , gangsta rap , and dogs barking and only want to hear the game. ?5 -
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✭✭✭✭✭NoThey most likely were not going to get rid of the sub option at launch , nor most likely say they will remove VR levels. They most likely were going to have territory control in IC.
ThinNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Seems like it's a reasonable statement and request to me also. I notice you don't try and explain why you are against how he/she wants to play.
Listening to the game and not hearing idiots in area chat. Still being able to communicate.
What's not normal or serious about that ?
Probably can't make up some silly thing to argue the point so you continue to duck it.
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 5, 2015 10:25PM-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Eriquito3✭✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »They most likely were not going to get rid of the sub option at launch , nor most likely say they will remove VR levels. They most likely were going to have territory control in IC.
ThinNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Seems like it's a reasonable statement and request to me also. I notice you don't try and explain why you are against how he/she wants to play.
Listening to the game and not hearing idiots in area chat. Still being able to communicate.
What's not normal or serious about that ?
Probably can't make up some silly thing to argue the point so you continue to duck it.
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Lol what they asked is totally realistic because the PC version of the same exact game has the capability to do what he mentioned... stop with these elusive statements and answer the man's questionHi0 -
Dahkoht✭✭✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Quit acting like it can't or won't be changed.
They've changed the game from a sub based game with no cash shop to a B2P game with a cash shop.
They sure as hell can change their mind and decide to add text chat to consoles.
You and a couple others like to try and state it as fact that it will not change.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]Edited by ZOS_Racheal on August 5, 2015 10:45PM3 -
bareheiny✭✭✭✭✭YesSo....any new arguments from either side? No? Oh
Ok then...any comment from ZOS? No? Oh.
Well...I guess that's not surprising really.0 -
Geemarc✭✭✭Yes
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 5, 2015 11:25PM
I think I will wait for ZoS to definitely confirm that text chat (windowed) will not come to the console. Developers can change their minds and I am hoping this is one of those occasions. ZoS need to give an answer on what they plan, keeping silent is causing these pointless arguments. NewBlackSmurf you know as much as we do which is nothing, please stop making out you know more.
Implementing the text chat system they have on the PC version would be the quickest and least time consuming method to add text chat. Developing an entirely new and different system would be a waste of resources that could be spent improving the game in other areas.1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They most likely were not going to get rid of the sub option at launch , nor most likely say they will remove VR levels. They most likely were going to have territory control in IC.
ThinNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Seems like it's a reasonable statement and request to me also. I notice you don't try and explain why you are against how he/she wants to play.
Listening to the game and not hearing idiots in area chat. Still being able to communicate.
What's not normal or serious about that ?
Probably can't make up some silly thing to argue the point so you continue to duck it.
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Lol what they asked is totally realistic because the PC version of the same exact game has the capability to do what he mentioned... stop with these elusive statements and answer the man's question
Please go watch ESO Live (use my signature) and then come back to contribute positively to this discussion.
Those who do want this added would appreciate positive and realistic input.
Respectfully, Otherwise please move on
Thanks
I have and they never stated they will not add text chat to consoles.
So now stop trying to derail the topic, and answer the man's question that you have been avoiding. Or simply cease detracting from this thread.
I respectfully ask this of you.
To be serious...after watching the two episodes mentioned in my signature, you didn't hear them say that text chat will not be added like seen on PC? You didn't hear them talk about many adding other radial chat options but say no to a text chat box?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Nosam✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They most likely were not going to get rid of the sub option at launch , nor most likely say they will remove VR levels. They most likely were going to have territory control in IC.
ThinNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Seems like it's a reasonable statement and request to me also. I notice you don't try and explain why you are against how he/she wants to play.
Listening to the game and not hearing idiots in area chat. Still being able to communicate.
What's not normal or serious about that ?
Probably can't make up some silly thing to argue the point so you continue to duck it.
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Lol what they asked is totally realistic because the PC version of the same exact game has the capability to do what he mentioned... stop with these elusive statements and answer the man's question
Please go watch ESO Live (use my signature) and then come back to contribute positively to this discussion.
Those who do want this added would appreciate positive and realistic input.
Respectfully, Otherwise please move on
Thanks
I have and they never stated they will not add text chat to consoles.
So now stop trying to derail the topic, and answer the man's question that you have been avoiding. Or simply cease detracting from this thread.
I respectfully ask this of you.
To be serious...after watching the two episodes mentioned in my signature, you didn't hear them say that text chat will not be added like seen on PC? You didn't hear them talk about many adding other radial chat options but say no to a text chat box?
They also previously said it WOULD have text chat.
[Moderator Note: Edited per our rules on Rude and Insulting comments]
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Dahkoht✭✭✭✭✭YesROFL. Yeah I and others have known he's on an anti text chat for a while. With keyboarding skills like that I understand why.
That video has been posted a few times now , shows just how out there he is trying to fight all the folks who want text chat.
I think it's earlier in this thread or the other one.0 -
Eriquito3✭✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They most likely were not going to get rid of the sub option at launch , nor most likely say they will remove VR levels. They most likely were going to have territory control in IC.
ThinNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Seems like it's a reasonable statement and request to me also. I notice you don't try and explain why you are against how he/she wants to play.
Listening to the game and not hearing idiots in area chat. Still being able to communicate.
What's not normal or serious about that ?
Probably can't make up some silly thing to argue the point so you continue to duck it.
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Lol what they asked is totally realistic because the PC version of the same exact game has the capability to do what he mentioned... stop with these elusive statements and answer the man's question
Please go watch ESO Live (use my signature) and then come back to contribute positively to this discussion.
Those who do want this added would appreciate positive and realistic input.
Respectfully, Otherwise please move on
Thanks
I have and they never stated they will not add text chat to consoles.
So now stop trying to derail the topic, and answer the man's question that you have been avoiding. Or simply cease detracting from this thread.
I respectfully ask this of you.
To be serious...after watching the two episodes mentioned in my signature, you didn't hear them say that text chat will not be added like seen on PC? You didn't hear them talk about many adding other radial chat options but say no to a text chat box?
Nope did hear it once. Now stop detracting and answer the man's question.Hi1 -
Nosam✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »They most likely were not going to get rid of the sub option at launch , nor most likely say they will remove VR levels. They most likely were going to have territory control in IC.
ThinNewBlacksmurf wrote: »NewBlacksmurf wrote: »I'd like to hear the logical argument against what I have mentioned multiple times.
I like and prefer to play the game , hearing the sounds and music that the developers spent lots of money and time on , and experience the world WITHOUT hearing shouts of babies , dogs barking , people making rude noises , or actually any sounds at all other than what the game has.
I am not alone in this. Many people play with headphones to hear just the game , and still enjoy communicating with many other people in the text chat.
Every console and PC mmorpg released so far has allowed me to enjoy the sound direction the developers chose to put in game , without being FORCED to hear others talking , and still allowed me to communicate with and make lots of in game friends.
What's the anti-text argument against this , rather logical , and normal expectation ?
I still see NO ONE on the anti-text chat team trying to logically explain how this ^^^^^^ is a bad reason to want and expect text chat.
ZOS has already responded so let's talk about things they haven't responded to that may help you get what you want.
Make sense?
What ideas do you have?
My idea is they have to admit they made a mistake and implement normal text chat that every other major console mmorpg has. And I've seen you and others say text chat isn't needed. I gave my example of why it is. I'd like to see someone explain how wanting to hear the game as it is , and still communicate , isn't the "console" way.
I say it is the console way. The PC way. The normal way.
Are you being serious right now?
Seems like it's a reasonable statement and request to me also. I notice you don't try and explain why you are against how he/she wants to play.
Listening to the game and not hearing idiots in area chat. Still being able to communicate.
What's not normal or serious about that ?
Probably can't make up some silly thing to argue the point so you continue to duck it.
What you two are asking for is not up for discussion.
It's not reasonable to ask me why something you desire that ZOS has already addressed won't be in the game.
My personal answer is: Because ZOS made the game, it's what they've decided on so deal with it or play another game.
But to be cordial and open minded my response is...what other ideas do you have that have not been addressed?
The goal is to keep the discussion going towards realistic options.
What you two are commenting is no longer realistic since April 2015
Lol what they asked is totally realistic because the PC version of the same exact game has the capability to do what he mentioned... stop with these elusive statements and answer the man's question
Please go watch ESO Live (use my signature) and then come back to contribute positively to this discussion.
Those who do want this added would appreciate positive and realistic input.
Respectfully, Otherwise please move on
Thanks
I have and they never stated they will not add text chat to consoles.
So now stop trying to derail the topic, and answer the man's question that you have been avoiding. Or simply cease detracting from this thread.
I respectfully ask this of you.
To be serious...after watching the two episodes mentioned in my signature, you didn't hear them say that text chat will not be added like seen on PC? You didn't hear them talk about many adding other radial chat options but say no to a text chat box?
Nope did hear it once. Now stop detracting and answer the man's question.
He won't because he's trapped , can't come up with a logical argument against what I asked about , so will continue to duck it I am sure.
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Neirymn✭✭✭✭Yes@NewBlacksmurf
I was reading discussions from the old thread that'd been closed and I must say that I'm glad that you came out with a compromise, even though that's not what some wants. It means that you admit that some of us need that option to enjoy the game as you enjoy it right now with voice chat and that is really nice to me.
I was disappointed that some anti-text players sounded like they don't want others to be able to communicate the way they need or like, it is really selfish and rude sometimes. I'd love to talk to others in game but I just can't use voice chat, I can't speak with someone I never met (Same thing when I need to call for work -_- ), but I have no problem when it comes to text chat (Or send mails for work xD), that's what I like in MMO's because I can talk to others normally and I don't have to experience any stress about it...Edited by Neirymn on August 5, 2015 10:58PM2 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No@NewBlacksmurf
I was reading discussions from the old thread that'd been closed and I must say that I'm glad that you came out with a compromise, even though that's not what some wants. It means that you admit that some of us need that option to enjoy the game as you enjoy it right now with voice chat and that is really nice to me.
I was disappointed that some anti-text players sounded like they don't want others to be able to communicate the way they need or like, it is really selfish and rude sometimes. I'd love to talk to others in game but I just can't use voice chat, I can't speak with someone I never met (Same thing when I need to call for work -_- ), but I have no problem when it comes to text chat (Or send mails for work xD), that's what I like in MMO's because I can talk to others normally and I don't have to experience any stress about it...
Thanks and nice to meet you-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭YesAn optional device is still not the same thing as something everyone had... text chat on consoles is always awful. It's an abbreviated mess and an affront to the English language. If every PS4 shipped with a keyboard, cool, but since that will never be the case we'd still have the majority using the controller to chat... and that would be ugly as sin.
Text chat is for PC games. Voice chat is for consoles.
I can't disagree more with you on this.
Have you ever even played other mmos on the PS4?
Warthunder, Final Fantasy ARR, DC Universe, all have text chat options and they are very much useful tools, with the controller or the keyboard.
"Text chatting is for PC games" is as ridiculously comparable to MMOS are for PC then.lol.
What a biased opinion and not a very knowledgeable theory of yours, I may add.
In FF ARR, Squarenix courtesly made hundreds of quick text chat options for those using only a controller to type. And with all MMOs, it takes a bit to get used to anything in the game, including chat.
And I might add, the UI for FF ARR 14 is fantasically done.
What a lame excuse to not have a text option.Edited by Eshelmen on August 5, 2015 11:30PMPC and PS4 EP only player1 -
NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭No
How...as adding it like it is on PC has been declined by ZOS and from what I'm reading my suggestions are not reasonable.Then please get back on topic.
And stop making all these comments to bump a topic or bait others who don't agree with you
Please come with ideas
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 6, 2015 12:19AM
The idea is to add text chat to the console release of this game. What other idea do we need?
Make sense?
-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Nergie4242✭✭✭YesNewBlacksmurf wrote: »
How...as adding it like it is on PC has been declined by ZOS and from what I'm reading my suggestions are not reasonable.Then please get back on topic.
And stop making all these comments to bump a topic or bait others who don't agree with you
Please come with ideas
Edited by NewBlacksmurf on August 6, 2015 12:19AM
The idea is to add text chat to the console release of this game. What other idea do we need?
Make sense?
You give me a chat box ZOS and I'll start giving you my money again.4 -
Eriquito3✭✭✭✭YesPros to having text chat on console.
Easier grouping for PvP aND pve
Guild recruitment, and communication with all guild members would be much easier because you won't have to be in the same voice channel to communicate with them, you just send some text and your whole guild can see it.
Selling/buying items will be much easier and far less anoying.
No one will be excluded from communication with the eacjother, the deaf and hard of hearing will now be able to effectively communicate.
All around socializing will be easier, more diverse and n will bring the whole eso console community together as a whole.
Tamriel will no longer feel like a huge lonely single player game.
The community grows
Cons to having text chat
Possible trolls,
Ocassional arguments.
Spam, and minimal ui clutter.
The pros heavily outweigh the cons in this situation.
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NewBlacksmurf✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoSoooo back on topic ....
ZOS has said no to adding a text chat box as we see it on PC.
My proposal to add something similar within the social tab or the voice chat menu was commented as not desired or unreasonable.
What other ideas do other have?-PC (PTS)/Xbox One: NewBlacksmurf
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Eshelmen✭✭✭✭✭YesPros to having text chat on console.
Easier grouping for PvP aND pve
Guild recruitment, and communication with all guild members would be much easier because you won't have to be in the same voice channel to communicate with them, you just send some text and your whole guild can see it.
Selling/buying items will be much easier and far less anoying.
No one will be excluded from communication with the eacjother, the deaf and hard of hearing will now be able to effectively communicate.
All around socializing will be easier, more diverse and n will bring the whole eso console community together as a whole.
Tamriel will no longer feel like a huge lonely single player game.
The community grows
Cons to having text chat
Possible trolls,
Ocassional arguments.
Spam, and minimal ui clutter.
The pros heavily outweigh the cons in this situation.Pros to having text chat on console.
Easier grouping for PvP aND pve
Guild recruitment, and communication with all guild members would be much easier because you won't have to be in the same voice channel to communicate with them, you just send some text and your whole guild can see it.
Selling/buying items will be much easier and far less anoying.
No one will be excluded from communication with the eacjother, the deaf and hard of hearing will now be able to effectively communicate.
All around socializing will be easier, more diverse and n will bring the whole eso console community together as a whole.
Tamriel will no longer feel like a huge lonely single player game.
The community grows
Cons to having text chat
Possible trolls,
Ocassional arguments.
Spam, and minimal ui clutter.
The pros heavily outweigh the cons in this situation.
Trolling is inevitable, clearly we can see this is true based on just having a voice chat! It's even more annoying than spam bots texting me. Atleast I don't have to chime in on it.
Arguments through texts? Oh the horror! lol
With a text option, you should be able to minimize the text window/size or to turn it off completely.
Edited by Eshelmen on August 5, 2015 11:34PMPC and PS4 EP only player1 -
Geemarc✭✭✭YesHow...as adding it like it is on PC has been declined by ZOS and from what I'm reading my suggestions are not reasonable.
Make sense?
As previously stated game developers can change their minds and they have not 100% confirmed that they will not add PC text chat.
"Is it possible we could have a text chat? Yes. Will we? I don’t think we can safely say one way or another. It probably is safe to say if we add a more text centric way to chat it won’t be a straight chat window".
The probably in that sentence means its unlikely but not impossible.
This is what most people want in this thread, I am not here to compromise with other forum users. I will state what I wish and wait for the developers to say it will or will not happen.Edited by Geemarc on August 5, 2015 11:33PM3 -
TequilaFire✭✭✭✭✭
✭✭✭✭✭NoOK how in oblivion do you type with one hand hold a controller with another and pay attention to what is going on in game?
You can't, so only use is when idle and not engaged in combat.Edited by TequilaFire on August 5, 2015 11:34PM2
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