Zos do something about lagsploiters

Spearshard · August 2015

I have tried vet pvp three times in the past week and a half. And each time I end up saying @#$% this and go back to pve. I have for characters at vet (grantel all but my current are vet 1 BC I end up going ADD and make a new toon to try a new build, but I digress, short of). I for the most part, on each toon play black water blade, I love it, it is a challenge far above anything even on the vet side of pve (that I've experienced so far). It's fun, and forced you to react faster, and in new ways. I get that vet pvp is different, and staying with the zerg is the only way to accomplish anything, but dear lord the lagsploiting is out of hand. And it isn't even that it happens as a natural course of battle with that many ppl present. The group intentionally balls up on top of each other and spams meteor. It is flat out cheating, and zos needs to address it. Bungie recently banned over 200 players for doing something similar, zos take a page out of their book.

Kybotica · August 2015

You do realize that those players aren't using an external mechanism to achieve the lag, right? The banned players in bungie's Destiny were manually adjusting their internet settings to gain an unfair advantage. Using something outside the game to achieve an advantage is cheating, but using an ability in the intended manner is not cheating. Even though I agree something needs to be done to help the lag with certain abilities being spammed, banning players for using an in-game ability during combat is NOT the way to go about fixing the issue.

Milktray · August 2015

Maybe a faster, smoother more stable internet connection (if you are able to anyway)

It's one reason why I pay the extra to get fast fibre (also beats waiting ages on dl's lol)

Spearshard · August 2015

I see where you are coming from, and I would agree if it was just lag caused by the normal course of battle, but it's not. Its INTENTIONALLY caused by a group of players bunching up and spamming an ability (meteor in my experience) to exploit the overtaxed server. That is cheating, it's manipulating the servers to achieve their goal (defend, attack, etc). It amounts to the same thing. I fully understand lag will happen with a high number of players together, I've been a part of massive sieges, there were prob about 150-200 players present, there was light lag, but the game was still playable, because no one was lagsploiting. You can sit there and try to defend it, but it's cheating plain and simple.

Milktray · August 2015

Not exactly cheating, more like dishonest and cowardly ;-)

I've seen ppl just spamming spells with huge graphics tho and end up swearing as i can no longer see where my damn target was lol

Cormore · August 2015

this makes me laugh

Cherryblossom · August 2015

Way to turn the responsibility for Lag round!

ZOS should be fixing the LAG not banning people because they can't deliver on what they promised at launch

Milktray · August 2015

I LOVE big huge flashy graphics on my casts i'll admit .. but when a group of ppl use the casts they have with most graphics in a small area .. I feel like i should be running about with a white cane ;-)

Molag_Crow · August 2015

I understand and have to agree man. Yesterday I got lagged out (crash error on ps) just as two Meteors were cast at me. Also, it shouldn't be able to hit 22k+ it's a complete joke and needs fixing. Lag bombers

Mighty_oakk · August 2015

Wtb lag switch

eliisra · August 2015

Yet, most spells with "flashy animations" stops working entirely when he lag hits.

Only synergies and a few PBAoE still does dmg. Rest is delayed and not going of.

I dont think any raid, faction or group wants to achieve lag at this point. It's rather that the most effective playstyle, stacking as many players as possible and bombing AoE, causes bad performance. But people aren't willing to change a winning concept, because it happens to kills the server lol.

Who actually wants or enjoys playing with unresponsive skills and abilities? I'd say no one.

Besides, everyone will always blame the enemy for the lag, even tho their own faction is just as guilty. it's not uncommon that 50+ zergs blames one single and heavily outnumbered enemy group for all the lag, reports them for lagsploit and so on. They should be blaming ZOS. People are complete morons.

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2015

Everyone does know that you can dodge roll away from a meteor, right?

THEDKEXPERIENCE · August 2015

On a side note please let me add ... if people weren't so hell bent on collecting every lore book we wouldn't have 50% of the population having an ability that was meant for only the top 1% of the most hardcore players! Yay, unintended consequences!

drzycki_ESO · August 2015

It's ridiculous. I have a 100 mbps connection and most of the time I am ok but there were times this weekend when my group and I could run into a group of enemies and the lag was so bad we couldn't do anything. Two of us are on the west coast, three of us were in the mid-west and two of us are in the south-east. We were all having the same trouble with the lag. I hope they fix it and soon.

Robbmrp · August 2015

Regardless of how the lag occurs it needs to be resolved by @ZOS.

I run in PVP groups 3 days a week with close to 50 people each time. There are times when we fight specific groups, that the lag will kick in. When EVERYONE in the Raid starts talking about ping and being rubber banded, you look at your ping and it's 999+, that's server lag, not individual. Everyone's lagging at the exact same time from all over the world and it cannot be an individual ISP issue. Then, there are times when we can have about 100 people on the field in close proximity and have minimal lag.

So why is it when certain groups are fought, that the lag then goes 999+? When it's the same group and the issue shows over and over, is it still server lag or is it due to the something external? Are they all spamming meteor because IF this is the cause, then there needs to be a cool down for all Ultimates so they cannot be re-casted within a certain amount of time. If the game just cannot handle 100 meteors crashing down at the same time then lets remove Ultimate abilities from PVP already. Your ability to survive shouldn't be based on that 1 spell.

Hello @ZOS_BrianWheeler, are the new Line of Sight changes in Imperial City going to resolve the lag issue with 100 meteors being casted at the exact same time? If not, lets just remove them from Cyrodil. I'd rather have a consistent smooth gaming experience than 1 Ultimate ability to use in a fight.

GamerzElite · August 2015

I have doubt ZOS will do something abt this. They afraid to loose one player from game. ZOS want, every one should play game, how they play no matter. I know couples of players who always do this but I can't take their name, go to EU Throneblade and you will found them if you are playing from EP and AD.

According to ZOS;
1. People are cheating let them cheat do not name here. (Why let them cause report earlier nothing happen)
2. If you see a huge fight going on, start doing something else otherwise you get lag ( said by ZOS PvP guy)

Robbmrp · August 2015

Milktray wrote: »

I LOVE big huge flashy graphics on my casts i'll admit .. but when a group of ppl use the casts they have with most graphics in a small area .. I feel like i should be running about with a white cane ;-)

I do as well. But if they are the cause of the lag problems and ZOS can't fix it without toning down the effects, then I'm all for it. What good does a flashy spell do when you can't cast it due to lag.....

If @ZOS can't resolve the issue with the new LoS changes in Imp City, then they need to put in a hotfix to tone down the graphic effects in Cyro by 50%. If that works and the lags all gone, they can slowly adjust it back up until it gets to game breaking levels again and then back it off to the last minimal lag setting. Just like overclocking a CPU. I've tried lowering my system settings all to medium from Ultra and they make no difference at all with server lag.