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This is me and I am still getting one shot and have my ass kick no matter what or how I do it, even in a small 2 - 4 man grp.
I mean even with this stats I should be able to be afk and still stand on my feet after 4 - 5 hits... I same times hade this game
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Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 8, 2025 6:35PM I mean even with this stats I should be able to be afk and still stand on my feet after 4 - 5 hits... I same times hade this game
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✭✭✭✭✭With dual sharpened maces and nb can ignore your armour.
As as a nb they can 1 hit anything with a pulse from stealth.PS4 EU DC
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I have every character level 50, both a magicka and stamina version.
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Funkopotamus✭✭✭✭✭You are low on CP man..
Your doing it wrong >_>Edited by Funkopotamus on August 4, 2015 8:18PMAnything useful that players are wanting added into the game all fall under the category of "Yer ruinin my 'mersion!" Sallington1 -
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✭✭✭✭timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »This is me and I am still getting one shot and have my ass kick no matter what or how I do it, even a small 2 - 4 man.
I mean even with this stats I should be able to be afk and still stand on my feet af 4 - 5 hits... [snip] I same times hade this game
You might want to grab an experienced PVPer and go over your build. You have all of your points in magicka but are using a bow? Cyrodiil's meta is and has been for a very long time focused on damage shields and it looks like you're in all heavy? As a magicka NB you should be running dampen magic and healing ward/ward ally to survive burst.
You don't provide much detail, but if you're getting wrecked by physical attacks, it's likely because sharpened maces have bugged armor penetration, so you're wasting your efforts in 7/7 heavy armor. You shouldn't have much difficulty being burst by magicka attacks with that much spell resist, so it might just be a reaction time/skill bar issue.
The cliche goes, 'the best defensive is a good offense', and your wep/spell power are awfully low. You can be as tanky as you want, but eventually any dps worth their salt will wear you down if you can't challenge them back and force them to use resources for defense.
You have one of the best racial/class combo's for the upcoming IC and current meta, you really shouldn't be having this much trouble.
Try going more light armor and relying on shields and cloak and high dmg - you'll probably find you're more survivable, even though it's counter intuitive.
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Pheefs✭✭✭✭✭I must admit.... zero seems a little low to me.
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timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »This is me and I am still getting one shot and have my ass kick no matter what or how I do it, even a small 2 - 4 man.
I mean even with this stats I should be able to be afk and still stand on my feet af 4 - 5 hits... [snip] I same times hade this game
You might want to grab an experienced PVPer and go over your build. You have all of your points in magicka but are using a bow? Cyrodiil's meta is and has been for a very long time focused on damage shields and it looks like you're in all heavy? As a magicka NB you should be running dampen magic and healing ward/ward ally to survive burst.
You don't provide much detail, but if you're getting wrecked by physical attacks, it's likely because sharpened maces have bugged armor penetration, so you're wasting your efforts in 7/7 heavy armor. You shouldn't have much difficulty being burst by magicka attacks with that much spell resist, so it might just be a reaction time/skill bar issue.
The cliche goes, 'the best defensive is a good offense', and your wep/spell power are awfully low. You can be as tanky as you want, but eventually any dps worth their salt will wear you down if you can't challenge them back and force them to use resources for defense.
You have one of the best racial/class combo's for the upcoming IC and current meta, you really shouldn't be having this much trouble.
Try going more light armor and relying on shields and cloak and high dmg - you'll probably find you're more survivable, even though it's counter intuitive.
I dont mind that I dont have the dps, but i DO MIND that I cant take *** dps even in full HA. Its a joke!
[edited to remove quote]Edited by ZOS_Icy on August 8, 2025 6:37PMFFFRRREEEDDDOOOMMM!!!
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I must admit.... zero seems a little low to me.
using a bow needs stamina, yes?
NVM the bow its more for fun
I only use 1h/shield (Thou that skill set also is a joke)
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✭✭✭✭timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »
I dont mind that I dont have the dps, but i DO MIND that I cant take *** dps even in full HA. Its a joke!
It sounds like you want to be very tanky, in which case you should be going for a full sap tank. You should have on siphoning attacks (until IC drops and the skill is useless...), be holding block most of the time (until IC drops and perma block will be suicide for you), and spamming sap essence in a group.
You have sword and board which is good, make sure to keep up defensive posture. I'd very much recommend getting rid of bow and switching to resto staff, it will give you access to a dmg shield and rapid regen which will greatly increase your chances of staying up as a sap tank.
I'm no expert on sap tanks, but at a high level those tips should help you be a bit more successful.
Someone that actually runs this build can chime in, but it looks to me like your resource regen is low. You should be shooting for 1k+
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✭✭✭✭timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »
Not for nothing... but this post kind of says it all
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It's not a joke [snip]. I survive 10-person groups in 5 Light Armor with just spamming Sap Essence.timborggrenlarsenb16_ESO wrote: »I dont mind that I dont have the dps, but i DO MIND that I cant take *** dps even in full HA. Its a joke!
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✭Seriously, a Magicka build (all Magicka) and your using a Bow, you use a Destro staff my man and resto staff on the other bar. Use a magicka shield not a sword and shield. Wear like 2 heavy with 5 reinforced light armor so you can maximise regen and damage.
See you can make any build you want in ESO but if you dont take advantage of your choices, going all Magicka, then you wont be very effective. You want to be very effective with a bow then you go weapon damage and Stamina. I mean look at your weapon damage, for the Bow, 1201. crit like 20%. look at spell damage 1389. crit like 31%. your bow hits like a wet noodle. With all Magicka you use magicka weapons. If you want to go Hybrid you can but pick one to have more of.
Also Penetration on weapons is pretty effective plus alot of people know about the Sharpened Mace thing as well.
For example, my nightblade is a Stamina heavy hybrid, I have like 2-4k more in Magicka than all Stam. nightblades so I can use Shadow Cloak and other Nightblade magicka abilities more but I stack weapon damage, some crit and have atleast 21k+ in Stamina and health to do damage and to survive in PvP. I use weapon abilities like 2 handed or bow and my favorite, dual wield. I use all weapon damage on my jewelry (all 3 pcs), use the warrior stone and 7 pcs of Medium armor and use my Champion points for cost/recovery, some mitigation and more damage. I grind alot, yes I am one of those guys, i grind champion points because I havent much game time and I like to PvP when I can and need any edge I can get, I am a min/maxer but I also love the Khajiit race and have some fun in the game, I also steal alot to support my buying habits and my CP grind habits (exp potions) and because its fun.
if you really want to be effective either go magicka or stamina, pick one, you want to Hybrid it then do that too, just realize you wont be as effective. and this involves weapon choice as well. Going Magicka use staves, going melee/bow weapons then your gonna need stamina to fuel those weapons, heavy is good to Tank with but soon IC (Imperial City) will be here and Block-casting (holding block and casting abilities) with get you either no Stamina regen (current thought) or minimal regen and Tanking will be much much harder on live in the future.
Good luck on your choices and remember PvP is not easy, it takes skill even when you have a really good build, you need to understand how everything works, trust me, even I learn new things all the time, through playing and videos on youtube (Sypher, Deltia, Decimus, to say a few) and I have been playing on the PC since early access.
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✭Hmmm. Do those sharpened maces work in PvE? Because if they do, I'm going to my local blacksmith! 0 -
NotSo✭✭✭✭whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »Wear like 2 heavy with 5 reinforced light armor...
Reinforced on light armor!?Gar'Sol the Wanderer VR14 Khajiit Sorcerer Spellblade2 -
whiteshadow711jppreub18_ESO wrote: »Seriously, a Magicka build (all Magicka) and your using a Bow, you use a Destro staff my man and resto staff on the other bar. Use a magicka shield not a sword and shield. Wear like 2 heavy with 5 reinforced light armor so you can maximise regen and damage.
See you can make any build you want in ESO but if you dont take advantage of your choices, going all Magicka, then you wont be very effective. You want to be very effective with a bow then you go weapon damage and Stamina. I mean look at your weapon damage, for the Bow, 1201. crit like 20%. look at spell damage 1389. crit like 31%. your bow hits like a wet noodle. With all Magicka you use magicka weapons. If you want to go Hybrid you can but pick one to have more of.
Also Penetration on weapons is pretty effective plus alot of people know about the Sharpened Mace thing as well.
For example, my nightblade is a Stamina heavy hybrid, I have like 2-4k more in Magicka than all Stam. nightblades so I can use Shadow Cloak and other Nightblade magicka abilities more but I stack weapon damage, some crit and have atleast 21k+ in Stamina and health to do damage and to survive in PvP. I use weapon abilities like 2 handed or bow and my favorite, dual wield. I use all weapon damage on my jewelry (all 3 pcs), use the warrior stone and 7 pcs of Medium armor and use my Champion points for cost/recovery, some mitigation and more damage. I grind alot, yes I am one of those guys, i grind champion points because I havent much game time and I like to PvP when I can and need any edge I can get, I am a min/maxer but I also love the Khajiit race and have some fun in the game, I also steal alot to support my buying habits and my CP grind habits (exp potions) and because its fun.
if you really want to be effective either go magicka or stamina, pick one, you want to Hybrid it then do that too, just realize you wont be as effective. and this involves weapon choice as well. Going Magicka use staves, going melee/bow weapons then your gonna need stamina to fuel those weapons, heavy is good to Tank with but soon IC (Imperial City) will be here and Block-casting (holding block and casting abilities) with get you either no Stamina regen (current thought) or minimal regen and Tanking will be much much harder on live in the future.
Good luck on your choices and remember PvP is not easy, it takes skill even when you have a really good build, you need to understand how everything works, trust me, even I learn new things all the time, through playing and videos on youtube (Sypher, Deltia, Decimus, to say a few) and I have been playing on the PC since early access.
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....... Thanks for the info man ...... BUT
Well thats true, but I want to make my roleplay - character a HA, life/essen draining dude. With 1h/s.
I dont wanner use BUGS in the game that are getting fix in time, or skills that i know will be re-make to something i dont like, and last but not fun.. I dont wanner be and look like 90% of the game just becuse its the only set up that works
Last I do not use a bow or anything els beside the 1h/s on if at all , both bars(normaly i only use 1 bar.) Gimped yea i know
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Blade_07✭✭✭✭No points put on health maybe? I put at least 10 points on mine. Also I have found that no matter what class I play its awesome to have resto. staff as my 2nd weapon for cures as needed. Works great for me!“Man can live about forty days without food, about three days without water, about eight minutes without air, but only for one second without hope.”0 -
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✭to the OP, (sorry on my IPhone cannot qoute)
hey my man I was just giving you some advice, and it is no problem with me how you play or your choices. You can do whatever you want or play however you want. I was just advising some basics on why you are more than likely having problems in PvP, also in the next patch when IC drops the TTK (time to kill) in PvP will be longer, so survivability will increase.
Like I said, good luck and see you on the battlefield of Cyrodiil, hopefully we do not cross paths since I play nothing but AD characters.Signed, Kotaro Atani.PS5 NAVR16/ CP 160 Khajiit Nightblade of the Aldmeri Dominion, Guildmaster and Assassin of the Queen's Hand guild on NA PC. PvP Officer in the WOLF guild on NA PS5, and of course Master Thief. Currently 3600 CP out of 3600 CP on NA PS5. Currently 810 CP on NA PC (used for PTS testing purposes only). On PS5 I am also a Master Crafter, all traits done and learned, Jewelry crafting done. all Motifs learned on PS5 except for maybe two-three Motifs. All Companions are Max level as are their Skills.Warrior, Lover, Thief.... Nightblade. Aldmeri Dominion For Life! For the Queen!! Go Dominion or go home ! "I have no hatred for the races of Man, but they are young. Like all children, they are driven by emotion. They lack the wisdom that comes with age. I would sooner place an Altmer infant on the Ruby Throne than surrender Tamriel to their capricious whims. The Altmer, the Bosmer and the Khajiit share the common traits of intelligence, patience and reason. We do not seek riches or plunder. Domination is not our goal, nor is the acclamation of power for its own sake. Today we make our stand. Today we take back the Ruby Throne, which is ours by ancient right and the blessings of the Divines. Stand with us." ―Your Queen Commands, Ayrenn Arana Aldmeri.(All 18 characters are AD only! This one is a AD Loyalist)Member of ESO Since January 29, 2014, started early Access 3/30/14 on PC, currently subbed on NA PS5 and on NA PC. Note- I only use PC for PTS testing purposes, the PS5 is my dedicated Game Platform.Note- for those that don't know how to say Kotaro Atani it's "Ko tar row Ah ta ni" (Ko with a Oh sound, tar which sounds like the sticky black tar stuff, row like rowing a boat, Ah with a AHHHH sound, Ta with a Tahhh sound, Neeee which sounds like knee)"The blowing sands of time wipe clean the footprints of the past...""Moonsugar may be the key to paradise, but it is through a false door...""A perfect society is always elsewhere..."- Unknown book of Khajiiti proverbs.1 -
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✭Just because you have high stats, you still have to play. Blocking/rolling positioning. Your biggest problem is you don't have more than 5 secs worth of regen. After 5 seconds you're basically done.
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✭The OP is a vamp and more than likely gets one-shot by Evil/Camouflaged Hunter in conjunction with various other skills.2 -
danovic✭✭✭Looks like vampire with weakness to fire and no fire resists buffs going to melt in the flame.
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✭✭✭That build looks so seriously crappy that it isn't worth starting to point out the problems. What in /oblivioin are you even trying to do.
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✭That build looks so seriously crappy that it isn't worth starting to point out the problems. What in /oblivioin are you even trying to do.
medium armor /magicka/ bow using NB/with Spell power gear....
NB Vamp in full heavy armor with no fire resist, low health recovery, all points in magicka, spell power, and a bow. Yeah, that's gonna work out just great you for.....0 -
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✭Well, heavy armor offers little to 0 protection against physical attacks on live, depending on the enemies type of sharp traited weapon and amount of cp.
High survivability doesn't come from heavy armor in PvP. That's OP's stupid mistake, naturally assuming that since it's supposedly "the sturdiest armor" in ESO lol.
Extra health, blocking, positioning, shields and movement. That makes you live longer.
I'd say 5 light armor still gives the highest survivability in game, like back in 1.5 really. You can still get max spell resistance with nirn wearing robes and physical resistance doesn't even matter, because ZOS. More shield and heal spam with light and you can also afford to go for more block cost reduction on jewellery and such.1 -
BRogueNZ✭✭✭✭✭Well, heavy armor offers little to 0 protection against physical attacks on live, depending on the enemies type of sharp traited weapon and amount of cp.
High survivability doesn't come from heavy armor in PvP. That's OP's stupid mistake, naturally assuming that since it's supposedly "the sturdiest armor" in ESO lol.
Extra health, blocking, positioning, shields and movement. That makes you live longer.
I'd say 5 light armor still gives the highest survivability in game, like back in 1.5 really. You can still get max spell resistance with nirn wearing robes and physical resistance doesn't even matter, because ZOS. More shield and heal spam with light and you can also afford to go for more block cost reduction on jewellery and such.
I agree.
After still getting killed in <5 secs in heavy and with plenty of health you may as well wear what supports your build and shrug off the one hit wonders and the immortals and just carry on.
I try to just see the funny side these days because I have more important things in life to concern myself with.
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