I wish

kalimar44 · July 2015

This game had a all out warrior build type class. No fire,or anything like that. I'm a 2h Dk, and I feel if I only used my 2h skill line I wouldn't do as good without adding any of the dk fire skills into my rotation. That goose for the fighters guild skill line too. No matter what without using the special dk skills a dk just won't be as good. I feel every class in this game is a caster first with melee abilities. I want a straight up warrior that is like Conan the barbarian. With magic items, but no inner magic, and be able to hold his own with a little help from a potion or healer or his team-mates.

Any thoughts on this?

Aett_Thorn · July 2015

While there is a certain percentage of this game's population that doesn't want classes at all, because they're not really an Elder Scrolls thing (even in previous games that had classes, they were more of a template or starting point, but didn't limit you from breaking the mold), if they are going to keep with the class structure, I would love to see the following added:

1) A "Warlord" type class, where their abilities are more natural or at least less magiky-looking.

2) A Wyrd/Spinner/Dreamwalker type class, with nature-themed abilities.

3) A Necromancer, with access to poison and ice magics, along with being able to summon various types of undead pets.

I would also love to have separate skill lines that would come out independently, and could tie into some of these new classes.

1) Bard skill line for party buffs/enemy debuffs

2) Illusion spells like from previous Elder Scrolls games

3) A separate necromancy skill line (a true Necromancer would get a full line with passives and such, and could maybe raise Zombies, bloodfiends, and Flesh Atronachs, but this skill line might allow anyone to raise various skeleton types).

4) Alteration spells

Spellcrafting may or may not take care of much of this, but who knows when we're going to get that.

Morbash · July 2015

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Lynx7386 · July 2015

kalimar44 wrote: »

This game had a all out warrior build type class. No fire,or anything like that. I'm a 2h Dk, and I feel if I only used my 2h skill line I wouldn't do as good without adding any of the dk fire skills into my rotation. That goose for the fighters guild skill line too. No matter what without using the special dk skills a dk just won't be as good. I feel every class in this game is a caster first with melee abilities. I want a straight up warrior that is like Conan the barbarian. With magic items, but no inner magic, and be able to hold his own with a little help from a potion or healer or his team-mates.

Any thoughts on this?

Try a nightblade.

My nightblade runs a 2h/bow setup, and really doesnt use any class abilities anymore (occasionally things like reaper's mark or grim focus or shades, but not often). On my 2h bar I'm using wrecking blow / Ambush / Executioner / Camouflaged hunter / Rally / Flawless dawnbreaker, and on my bow bar its Focused aim / magnum shot / venom arrow / camouflaged hunter / reaper's mark / flawless dawnbreaker.

Nightblades have the most beneficial passives for a weapon-only build, including 30% extra stamina regeneration and additional critical chance. A lot of nightblade attacks also have animations that look like you're just stabbing or slashing with a small dagger, so it keeps with a mostly combat/weapon oriented character.

Lucky28 · July 2015

Oh man. Necromancy would be so fun in PvP. maybe a dread zombie with a one minute duration, would give enemy players major incentive not to just sit there dead on the battle field . would be fun, tho the ESO staff would no doubt have to watch it like hawks.... so they might not enjoy it, but i would.

kalimar44 · July 2015

Lynx7386 wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

This game had a all out warrior build type class. No fire,or anything like that. I'm a 2h Dk, and I feel if I only used my 2h skill line I wouldn't do as good without adding any of the dk fire skills into my rotation. That goose for the fighters guild skill line too. No matter what without using the special dk skills a dk just won't be as good. I feel every class in this game is a caster first with melee abilities. I want a straight up warrior that is like Conan the barbarian. With magic items, but no inner magic, and be able to hold his own with a little help from a potion or healer or his team-mates.

Any thoughts on this?

Try a nightblade.

My nightblade runs a 2h/bow setup, and really doesnt use any class abilities anymore (occasionally things like reaper's mark or grim focus or shades, but not often). On my 2h bar I'm using wrecking blow / Ambush / Executioner / Camouflaged hunter / Rally / Flawless dawnbreaker, and on my bow bar its Focused aim / magnum shot / venom arrow / camouflaged hunter / reaper's mark / flawless dawnbreaker.

Nightblades have the most beneficial passives for a weapon-only build, including 30% extra stamina regeneration and additional critical chance. A lot of nightblade attacks also have animations that look like you're just stabbing or slashing with a small dagger, so it keeps with a mostly combat/weapon oriented character.

I want to be a 2h warrior, not a thief type looking class. It's to bad this game has no true warrior class.

Xvorg · July 2015

kalimar44 wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

This game had a all out warrior build type class. No fire,or anything like that. I'm a 2h Dk, and I feel if I only used my 2h skill line I wouldn't do as good without adding any of the dk fire skills into my rotation. That goose for the fighters guild skill line too. No matter what without using the special dk skills a dk just won't be as good. I feel every class in this game is a caster first with melee abilities. I want a straight up warrior that is like Conan the barbarian. With magic items, but no inner magic, and be able to hold his own with a little help from a potion or healer or his team-mates.

Any thoughts on this?

Try a nightblade.

My nightblade runs a 2h/bow setup, and really doesnt use any class abilities anymore (occasionally things like reaper's mark or grim focus or shades, but not often). On my 2h bar I'm using wrecking blow / Ambush / Executioner / Camouflaged hunter / Rally / Flawless dawnbreaker, and on my bow bar its Focused aim / magnum shot / venom arrow / camouflaged hunter / reaper's mark / flawless dawnbreaker.

Nightblades have the most beneficial passives for a weapon-only build, including 30% extra stamina regeneration and additional critical chance. A lot of nightblade attacks also have animations that look like you're just stabbing or slashing with a small dagger, so it keeps with a mostly combat/weapon oriented character.

I want to be a 2h warrior, not a thief type looking class. It's to bad this game has no true warrior class.

What he tells you is that the NB can be played as the warrior you want since it is the only class that cannot rely on class skills and it can do a lot of dmg despite that

By the way, a warrior class as the one you are requiring, what would do? I don't see a warrior skill line tree that makes something different from what already exists. Most of the option a warrior has are covered by the weapon skill lines. Same as the archer, knight, healer, mage, and rogue

Mevetel · July 2015

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

While there is a certain percentage of this game's population that doesn't want classes at all, because they're not really an Elder Scrolls thing (even in previous games that had classes, they were more of a template or starting point, but didn't limit you from breaking the mold), if they are going to keep with the class structure, I would love to see the following added:

1) A "Warlord" type class, where their abilities are more natural or at least less magiky-looking.

2) A Wyrd/Spinner/Dreamwalker type class, with nature-themed abilities.

3) A Necromancer, with access to poison and ice magics, along with being able to summon various types of undead pets.

I would also love to have separate skill lines that would come out independently, and could tie into some of these new classes.

1) Bard skill line for party buffs/enemy debuffs

2) Illusion spells like from previous Elder Scrolls games

3) A separate necromancy skill line (a true Necromancer would get a full line with passives and such, and could maybe raise Zombies, bloodfiends, and Flesh Atronachs, but this skill line might allow anyone to raise various skeleton types).

4) Alteration spells

Spellcrafting may or may not take care of much of this, but who knows when we're going to get that.

Tottally agree and i wish we had Spears or Naginatas for main weapons

Lynx7386 · July 2015

kalimar44 wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

This game had a all out warrior build type class. No fire,or anything like that. I'm a 2h Dk, and I feel if I only used my 2h skill line I wouldn't do as good without adding any of the dk fire skills into my rotation. That goose for the fighters guild skill line too. No matter what without using the special dk skills a dk just won't be as good. I feel every class in this game is a caster first with melee abilities. I want a straight up warrior that is like Conan the barbarian. With magic items, but no inner magic, and be able to hold his own with a little help from a potion or healer or his team-mates.

Any thoughts on this?

Try a nightblade.

My nightblade runs a 2h/bow setup, and really doesnt use any class abilities anymore (occasionally things like reaper's mark or grim focus or shades, but not often). On my 2h bar I'm using wrecking blow / Ambush / Executioner / Camouflaged hunter / Rally / Flawless dawnbreaker, and on my bow bar its Focused aim / magnum shot / venom arrow / camouflaged hunter / reaper's mark / flawless dawnbreaker.

Nightblades have the most beneficial passives for a weapon-only build, including 30% extra stamina regeneration and additional critical chance. A lot of nightblade attacks also have animations that look like you're just stabbing or slashing with a small dagger, so it keeps with a mostly combat/weapon oriented character.

I want to be a 2h warrior, not a thief type looking class. It's to bad this game has no true warrior class.

Your appearance has nothing to do with your class. Throw on 2 heavy and 5 medium and you can keep the warrior look without any problem whatsoever.

Out of the four classes, the one that fits the 'warrior' appearance best is the nightblade. It offers the most passives that boost weapon skills, and the few class abilities you do end up using all look like weapon skills.

EDIT: Here's my nightblade, does he look "thief-type" to you?

kalimar44 · July 2015

Lynx7386 wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

Lynx7386 wrote: »

kalimar44 wrote: »

This game had a all out warrior build type class. No fire,or anything like that. I'm a 2h Dk, and I feel if I only used my 2h skill line I wouldn't do as good without adding any of the dk fire skills into my rotation. That goose for the fighters guild skill line too. No matter what without using the special dk skills a dk just won't be as good. I feel every class in this game is a caster first with melee abilities. I want a straight up warrior that is like Conan the barbarian. With magic items, but no inner magic, and be able to hold his own with a little help from a potion or healer or his team-mates.

Any thoughts on this?

Try a nightblade.

My nightblade runs a 2h/bow setup, and really doesnt use any class abilities anymore (occasionally things like reaper's mark or grim focus or shades, but not often). On my 2h bar I'm using wrecking blow / Ambush / Executioner / Camouflaged hunter / Rally / Flawless dawnbreaker, and on my bow bar its Focused aim / magnum shot / venom arrow / camouflaged hunter / reaper's mark / flawless dawnbreaker.

Nightblades have the most beneficial passives for a weapon-only build, including 30% extra stamina regeneration and additional critical chance. A lot of nightblade attacks also have animations that look like you're just stabbing or slashing with a small dagger, so it keeps with a mostly combat/weapon oriented character.

I want to be a 2h warrior, not a thief type looking class. It's to bad this game has no true warrior class.

Your appearance has nothing to do with your class. Throw on 2 heavy and 5 medium and you can keep the warrior look without any problem whatsoever.

Out of the four classes, the one that fits the 'warrior' appearance best is the nightblade. It offers the most passives that boost weapon skills, and the few class abilities you do end up using all look like weapon skills.

EDIT: Here's my nightblade, does he look "thief-type" to you?

Yes he looks like a warrior, but the night blade class comes off as

Mevetel wrote: »

Aett_Thorn wrote: »

While there is a certain percentage of this game's population that doesn't want classes at all, because they're not really an Elder Scrolls thing (even in previous games that had classes, they were more of a template or starting point, but didn't limit you from breaking the mold), if they are going to keep with the class structure, I would love to see the following added:

1) A "Warlord" type class, where their abilities are more natural or at least less magiky-looking.

2) A Wyrd/Spinner/Dreamwalker type class, with nature-themed abilities.

3) A Necromancer, with access to poison and ice magics, along with being able to summon various types of undead pets.

I would also love to have separate skill lines that would come out independently, and could tie into some of these new classes.

1) Bard skill line for party buffs/enemy debuffs

2) Illusion spells like from previous Elder Scrolls games

3) A separate necromancy skill line (a true Necromancer would get a full line with passives and such, and could maybe raise Zombies, bloodfiends, and Flesh Atronachs, but this skill line might allow anyone to raise various skeleton types).

4) Alteration spells

Spellcrafting may or may not take care of much of this, but who knows when we're going to get that.

Tottally agree and i wish we had Spears or Naginatas for main weapons

I agree with this. I like playing my DK,but he's more of a fighter magic user than a true warrior. To everyone saying use a night blade they make good warrior. Then why do they come off as being ESO thief type class? I'm sorry but this game needed true classes and not all of this hybrid crap. To this day Everquest had the best class system of any MMO. Devs have gotten so lazy in making there games. Today's mmos everyone looks the same and you have a ton of the same type class builds.

Here is a good class system

https://www.everquest.com/classes

Lynx7386 · July 2015

I'm sorry but this game needed true classes and not all of this hybrid crap.

Most would disagree. A lot of us think that there should have been no classes in the first place, and just opened up all the skill trees so that you could build your own class. While some of the elder scrolls single player games have had classes, they're always just guidelines and starting locations, and your character can eventually master and use any setup you want.

To this day Everquest had the best class system of any MMO.

Again, I disagree, I'd rather have no classes and be able to create my own via an assortment of skill trees. Starwars: Galaxies (pre-CU) did this exceptionally well.

To everyone saying use a night blade they make good warrior. Then why do they come off as being ESO thief type class?

They only come off looking like that if you only focus on the stealth benefits of the class. You're getting tunnel vision here, stealth is only a portion of what nightblades offer. They've also got all of the key ingredients to making a warrior class: bonus stamina regen, defense, mobility, critical chance, critical damage, and even some benefits to using heavy armor.